Warriors: Stephen Curry declares himself a better offensive player than LeBron James

[DMC]

He won mvp because he had a very good performance in the nba finals while matched up against the best player in the world

So when the Spurs lost game 6 of the 2013 NBA Finals, was it because the Heat played a great game or because the Spurs choked?

You're a glass half full guy when you need to be.

[DMC]

this whole talk about fmvp only began because you brought up how he got "shut down by delly." i couldnt care less about the mvp award and the numbers + common sense show that he didnt get "shut down by delly"

you're subscribing to the reasoning that "curry didnt win fmvp = curry got shut down by delly"

i'm not buying that. its a false equivalency

Oakland (United States) (AFP) - It turns out that Cleveland backup guard Matthew Dellavedova might be more dangerous to Golden State's chances of winning the NBA Finals than injured star guard Kyrie Irving was.


The 24-year-old Australian played the game of his life Sunday, silencing NBA Most Valuable Player Stephen Curry defensively and sinking two clutch over-time free throws with the game on the line to give the Cavaliers a 95-93 victory that evened the best-of-seven series at 1-1.


After squandering an 11-point lead in the final minutes of regulation time, the Cavaliers watched Curry sink two free throws to give the Warriors their first lead after half-time in the dying seconds of the extra five-minute period.


But Dellavedova was fouled going for a rebound and answered with two tension-filled free throws of his own to put the Cavaliers ahead to stay at 94-93.


"That's a classic thing you practice as a kid growing up, down one, you need to make both free throws, so I felt like I've been in that situation a million times before," Dellavedova said.


Dellavedova started in place of Irving, who suffered a fractured left kneecap in Thursday's game one loss. Some saw that as an end to Cleveland's hopes of the city's first pro sports crown in 51 years.


But Curry went 5-of-23 from the floor, including 2-of-15 from 3-point range, in his worst shooting performance of the season. His 13 missed 3-pointers were an NBA Finals record, two more than the old mark belonging to John Starks from 1994.


Asked what Dellavedova did to shut him down, Curry said: "Nothing really, just besides playing their game plan and playing defense like every pro is supposed to.

[spurraider21]

So when the Spurs lost game 6 of the 2013 NBA Finals, was it because the Heat played a great game or because the Spurs choked?

You're a glass half full guy when you need to be.

the spurs choked. it was one of the biggest choke jobs in nba finals history. you gotta look at it on a case by case basis. spurs lost 13 because they had a historic choke job. heat didnt lose 14 because they choked

[spurraider21]

wow, look at you, harping on game 2 of a 6 game series

where was delly's shut down defense in game 1, 3, 4, 5, and 6?

[DMC]

wow, look at you, harping on game 2 of a 6 game series

where was delly's shut down defense in game 1, 3, 4, 5, and 6?

Look at Curry admitting that Delly shut him down. You should call him and tell him that didn't happen.

Probably the same place Steph's Finals MVP trophy went.

[spurraider21]

Asked what Dellavedova did to shut him down, Curry said: "Nothing really, just besides playing their game plan and playing defense like every pro is supposed to.

how is that curry admitting delly shut him down? read before you post this , boutons. the "shut him down" weren't curry's words, it was the reporters

[DMC]

how is that curry admitting delly shut him down? read before you post this , boutons

"just besides..."

That means everything, Philo.

"What did you buy at the store?"

"Nothing really, just besides a new laptop and some video games"

"Ok so you didn't buy anything, ok"

Steph meant "nothing in particular" as you well know you dishonest prick.

[spurraider21]

curry never said he was shut down. he was asked about it.

but you're adorable clinging to 1 game out of 6. keep it up

[DMC]

curry never said he was shut down. he was asked about it.

but you're adorable clinging to 1 game out of 6. keep it up

Curry was asked what Delly did to shut him down and he answered, and his answer wasn't "I didn't get shut down".

Andre Iguodala was named the most valuable player of the 2015 NBA Finals, beating LeBron James by a vote of 7-4. The reigning regular season MVP, Stephen Curry, did not receive a single vote.

[spurraider21]

You know damn well Curry isn't saying "he didnt' shut me down". He's saying "he did nothing in particular, BESIDES PLAYING THEIR GAME PLAN AND PLAYING DEFENSE LIKE EVERY PRO IS SUPPOSED TO"

Way to cherry pick, Chump 2.0

he never said he was shut down, he was asked the question

here's curry admitting about how he was "shut down"

Stephen Curry writes Game 2 off as a fluke, expects to return to MVP form

from another article: Curry dismissed Game 2 as a fluke, and his teammates also said Dellavedova's defense didn't have much of an impact on Curry's game. It was an off night and one that'll be forgotten soon enough. This is the same player who can hit impossible shots with ease, so it's hard to imagine he will have another night like Game 2 when he's averaging 28.4 points in the playoffs and has scored at least 30 points in 8 of 17 games.

http://www.ibtimes.com/pulse/nba-finals-2015-stephen-curry-has-been-great-so-what-do-we-make-his-bad-game-2-1958828

[spurraider21]

this whole talk about fmvp only began because you brought up how he got "shut down by delly." i couldnt care less about the mvp award and the numbers + common sense show that he didnt get "shut down by delly"

you're subscribing to the reasoning that "curry didnt win fmvp = curry got shut down by delly"

i'm not buying that. its a false equivalency

[Red Hawk #21]

How can one only focus on Game 2 and completely ignore every other game played? My goodness, the lengths people will go to defend their failed arguments.

[DMC]

Spurs had a flukey game 6 in the 2013 Finals. See how that works? It's just ONE game.

[Chinook]

The difference is that when we talk about Lebron getting shut down, we're talking about him getting only 25 points on 50-percent shooting rather than 35 points on 65-percent shooting. When we talk about Curry getting shut down, we're talking about him going 3-19 against Green in the first three games of the WCSF two years ago. It's no contest who's the better offensive player. Curry isn't even top-15 in the league when you're talking about performances against the best teams.

So what's happened since I said this? Well, Kawhi took Lebron's cookie in that year's Finals, and Curry watched Frieza blow up his best friend on Namek. Funny how different things look 16 months later.

[spurraider21]

Spurs had a flukey game 6 in the 2013 Finals. See how that works? It's just ONE game.

yeah they did. the last minute of that game was the biggest choke in nba history

[Red Hawk #21]

Spurs had a flukey game 6 in the 2013 Finals. See how that works? It's just ONE game.

6 and Game 2 of the 2015 Finals are two totally different situations. I don't even know how you can compare the two.

[DMC]

6 and Game 2 of the 2015 Finals are two totally different situations. I don't even know how you can compare the two.

If an entire game was a fluke, then the last 5 minutes of a game can much more easily be a fluke.

[DMC]

yeah they did. the last minute of that game was the biggest choke in nba history

Choke or fluke?

If Kobe had won at least one of the Finals MVP awards during the 3peat, would that change how you view Kobe's career?

What if Scotty Pippen won one of the Finals MVP awards instead of Michael? Would MJ still be considered the GOAT?

[spurraider21]

Choke or fluke?

If Kobe had won at least one of the Finals MVP awards during the 3peat, would that change how you view Kobe's career?

What if Scotty Pippen won one of the Finals MVP awards instead of Michael? Would MJ still be considered the GOAT?

how differently do you look at andre iguodala?

[Red Hawk #21]

If an entire game was a fluke, then the last 5 minutes of a game can much more easily be a fluke.

Steph played well in Games 1,3,4,5,6 and the Warriors won the Championship. Why would this situation be compared to 6? I don't understand where you're going with this one.

[DMC]

how differently do you look at andre iguodala?

A lot differently because of his performance in the Finals. Same with Kawhi. Inevitably players who get to the Finals are judged on how they did there. That's one reason why Tim is rated above Karl.

So are you going to answer my question or just redirect?

[DMC]

The team played well in Games 1,3,4,5,6 and the Warriors won the Championship. Why would this situation be compared to 6? I don't understand where you're going with this one.

See how that works?

Steph wasn't the best player on the team in the Finals. The fact that Lebron got 4 votes to Steph's 0 should tell you that.

[spurraider21]

A lot differently because of his performance in the Finals. Same with Kawhi. Inevitably players who get to the Finals are judged on how they did there. That's one reason why Tim is rated above Karl.

So are you going to answer my question or just redirect?

as i said before, you need to look at this on a case by case basis. context is everything. if curry the bed throughout the series and iggy lifted them out of the grave, its quite different than a scenario where both guys played well and one got the mvp because he was up against lebron individually

if kobe got a finals mvp alongside shaq, i'd need context too. do we assume they played exactly as they did but the voters just happened to give kobe the nod? the numbers would indicate they got it wrong in that scenario. but if we redo history and kobe actually outplays shaq in the finals (would be quite the herculean feat considering how historically dominant shaq was during each of those 3peat finals) then yes, kobe would deservedly be looked at differently

[spurraider21]

this whole talk about fmvp only began because you brought up how he got "shut down by delly." i couldnt care less about the mvp award and the numbers + common sense show that he didnt get "shut down by delly"

you're subscribing to the reasoning that "curry didnt win fmvp = curry got shut down by delly"

i'm not buying that. its a false equivalency

[DMC]

as i said before, you need to look at this on a case by case basis. context is everything. if curry the bed throughout the series and iggy lifted them out of the grave, its quite different than a scenario where both guys played well and one got the mvp because he was up against lebron individually

if kobe got a finals mvp alongside shaq, i'd need context too. do we assume they played exactly as they did but the voters just happened to give kobe the nod? the numbers would indicate they got it wrong in that scenario. but if we redo history and kobe actually outplays shaq in the finals (would be quite the herculean feat considering how historically dominant shaq was during each of those 3peat finals) then yes, kobe would deservedly be looked at differently

Looking back you have no idea how Kobe played. You just know Shaq won the Finals MVP. You'd have to go look it up but if the argument surfaced about rings, the "Shaq carried Kobe for 3 rings" comment follows, as it should.

So you still didn't answer my question, you just yapped a lot.

I think everyone here knows that accolades stack up else the pic where Tim has 3 Finals MVP awards and Kobe only has two would not really mean anything. After all, didn't Manu really deserve that one in 2005?

Keep responding like a player fan.

If you think Steph is a better offensive player than Lebron, maybe you need to ask yourself how Lebron averaged more ppg than Curry in the Finals. Lebron averaged almost 36ppg, 13 rebounds and 8 assists. That trumps Curry in every category, and he only played a couple more minutes per.

"But but.. it's because AI held him down, played great defense" yeah and allowed those numbers off the ing bench and still won the Finals MVP.

There were 6 Warriors with a higher FG% in the Finals than Curry. SIX