Huh? The point of this thread is that the Warriors have changed the landscape of the NBA, and they have been way too good for the rest of the NBA for the past year and a half..they are so good that the league might have to change the rules to make it fair for the rest of the league, I'm not complaining about them having an unfair advantage(I don't know how you came to that conclusionthis is almost as bad as the broncos are targeted by the refs take, tbh
it's the same shot that's been available since they moved the line back twenty years ago, tbh. this wouldn't even be a thread if daniel green wasn't playing like a huge got his year. and never would have been posted when the spurs won 5 because they got hot from three for the playoffs
spurstalk going to become more angsty when they realize supercurry and the lightskin crew is going to keep tim in his last year from getting number 6..), I'm giving them credit for being the best team I've ever seen..
I just realized who your main account is, though, can't believe it took me this long
Maybe a few years down the road, if this continues, but right now they're still a mostly unaccomplished playoff team.
Nothing will even be considered until ratings and interest in general begins to wane and that's bound to happen if this continues long enough.
An all time great team is good for the NBA. Look at the ratings from the bulls in the 90s. one player who is an anomaly surrounded by a stacked supporting cast that was kind of lucked in to. those ankles aren't gonna last for six les though
Huh? The point of this thread is that the Warriors have changed the landscape of the NBA, and they have been way too good for the rest of the NBA for the past year and a half..they are so good that the league might have to change the rules to make it fair for the rest of the league, I'm not complaining about them having an unfair advantage(I don't know how you came to that conclusion
I just realized who your main account is, though, can't believe it took me this long
A lot of people here ing about the Spurs' play and record, solely because the Warriors are undefeated. I thought that might have been part of what you were doing. Mis-read you, I guess.
Do you really think widening the court wouldn't destroy the game as we know it? I'm seriously asking your opinion. I think the unintended consequences of anything like that would be a disaster. I can't think of anything they could really do that wouldn't slow the game to a crawl, and run off lots of fans.
I think that a lot of people like seeing the Warriors pile up points. And most of the people who are worried are fans of the few team who might actually contend, otherwise. Which short of brings things full circle.
If they go off on the spurs, thunder and the cavs then I'll consider it.
It depends on the target demographic, tbh..
As a younger man, I love watching the Warriors, although I dislike them as a team..I love 3-pointers, and I hate playing basketball without 2s on the street, but I do recognize that it's not a pure version of the game, as Pop said..
Most die-hard basketball fans over the age of 35 probably hate the Warriors style of play, at least from what I've heard from most old media and older fans..coaches hate it, former players hate it, etc, even if they find it somewhat entertaining..
The Warriors have maximized everything you can do with today's rules and court dimensions IMO..they are probably the best team we'll ever see..virtually the entire league is attempting to replicate them, but there has never been a player in league history like Steph Curry, and I can't remember a player like Draymond Green, either..
If they moved the 3pt line back, it would hurt 3pt shooting as a whole, but the elite shooters would be even better. It would hurt the Warriors even less than other teams because they have 2 elite 3pt shooters; and specifically Curry would be even more unstoppable. I know they rely on the 3 more than other teams, but this rule change might help the Warriors more than it hurt them (in relation to other teams).
Maybe regular season team. But I don't get how a supposed Spurs fan, who watched this team put on an all-time playoff and especially Finals performance a whole one and a half years ago, can say a team with one gift wrapped championship to it's credit, is "probably the best team we'll ever see"? If they cap it with a historical playoff run, then fine, but right now, it's premature and disrespectful to historically great teams.
The 2014 Spurs had the one of the best stretches of basketball I've ever seen, but they only did it for 17 games..the Warriors have been essentially doing that for 126 games, albeit mostly regular season, but it's not as if they weren't completely dominant in last year's playoffs, as well..
nah, that's communist. communism
3 pt shots should not be worth 3. It makes for too many fouls called on 3 pt shots and potential 4 points play.
And for that matter, why should a foul on someone behind a line be worth more than any other foul on anyone else attempting the shot.
I would just nerf the 3 pt shot to equalize it with all other shots.
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Fair enough, but they also had a lot of injuries, managed minutes to an unprecedented degree and clearly weren't consumed with making history or affirming their status. Also, that stretch came mostly against two historically great players, at the peak of their powers, in the Conference Finals and Finals.
Records are meant to be broken. Warriors are having a historic run that any basketball fan should be enjoying. Every game is bigger and the team that knocks them off will be praised and the game will be broken down and overanaylzed to the point that people will say they have the blueprint to beat them.
Warriors will not end the season undefeated. Bogut has been surprisingly healthy and so has the entire team. Again, I hope they remain healthy all year. The only rule I would like to see changed is the playoff seeding. A Spurs/Warriors NBA Finals would be one for the ages.
Put a hand in the guy's face, get up on him more, make him drive to the basket. It goes on and on and on. MAN UP AND PLAY DEFENSE!
Well that's damned well said.
I think they could help the balance of the game if they would clean up two things. First, all the contact off the ball in the paint. They let the bigs wrestle like an MMA match, position means nothing, and it has made the dominant big almost a thing of the past. Second, they also need to tighten up the travelling (and double-dribble) calls. A lot of the drive-and-kick that is getting these wide open 3's wouldn't be possible if they weren't allowed to carry the ball. Some of those cuts just aren't possible without it.
Years ago, when Tim was the dominant player in the league, teams started talking about "denying him the ball". Which, translated, meant beating the out of him off the ball, because they found out the refs just wouldn't call it. Now it's just a constant wrestling match in the paint. Not just for time, but for everyone. If you want to look at something that has distorted basketball, that's a good place to start.
Sounds like a complaint to me. The Spurs set up the blueprint from 2012-14 and the Warriors mastered it to a tee. I don't recall you saying the league should make changes in 2014 when you said that you've never seen a team [Spurs] this good in all my years of watching NBA ball. That took all of one year to be toppedHuh? 1.)The point of this thread is that the Warriors have changed the landscape of the NBA, and they have been way too good for the rest of the NBA for the past year and a half..they are so good that the league might have to change the rules to make it fair for the rest of the league,2.) I'm not complaining about them having an unfair advantage(I don't know how you came to that conclusion
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3 great passing bigs/ Soft Check
GOAT coach/ Check
Parker and Ginobili to run pick&roll/ Curry, Iggy/ Check
2 great wing defenders that can shoot 3s/ Check
3 capable wing, ISO scorers/ Check
A ton of shooters/ Check
A great all-around defensive big and a great rim protecting big/ Check
Capable of playing both defensive grind basketball or run&gun offensive ball/ Check
You can't ask for the league to make changes because the Warriors are playing Spurs basketball better than the Spurs
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What did Pop say exactly? And why was he talking about the Warriors yesterday?
I didn't make a statement or give a final opinion, I asked a question that was on ESPN radio yesterday, it's not just me thinking about itSounds like a complaint to me. The Spurs set up the blueprint from 2012-14 and the Warriors mastered it to a tee. I don't recall you saying the league should make changes in 2014 when you said that you've never seen a team [Spurs] this good in all my years of watching NBA ball. That took all of one year to be topped
3 great passing bigs/ Soft Check
GOAT coach/ Check
Parker and Ginobili to run pick&roll/ Curry, Iggy/ Check
2 great wing defenders that can shoot 3s/ Check
3 capable wing, ISO scorers/ Check
A ton of shooters/ Check
A great all-around defensive big and a great rim protecting big/ Check
Capable of playing both defensive grind basketball or run&gun offensive ball/ Check
You can't ask for the league to make changes because the Warriors are playing Spurs basketball better than the Spurs
And yes, the Spurs were the deepest team to win a le in league history, and still the most unconventional, since they had a historically dominant offensive run without a star..the Warriors are deep, too, but it's a pretty silly comparison when they have one of the 2 best PGs of all-time and the best guard since Jordan playing in his prime
He said something he has said in the past, which is that he hates the 3-point shot and that it cheapens basketball..
Haven't heard a good explanation yet for why the 3 point shot isn't real basketball by these old timers. FFS dribbling was an added rule at one point too
Today's basketball is levels more entertaining than the hideous 90s ball, and the White American 80s ballHaven't heard a good explanation yet for why the 3 point shot isn't real basketball by these old timers. FFS dribbling was an added rule at one point too
Did you mean popular stars? Both Leonard and Duncan, though not Curry historical greatness levelI didn't make a statement or give a final opinion, I asked a question that was on ESPN radio yesterday, it's not just me thinking about it
And yes, the Spurs were the deepest team to win a le in league history, and still the most unconventional, since they had a historically dominant offensive run without a star..the Warriors are deep, too, but it's a pretty silly comparison when they have one of the 2 best PGs of all-time and the best guard since Jordan playing in his prime
Hand checking.
I don't think the league should jump in with rule changes, although I like some of the proposed ones about helping out the post play a bit more, it's kinda dumb that you can push and hold a big but you can't even touch a shooter/penetrator.
The Warriors will eventually be figured out by the other teams. In this highly analytical era where everyone pays attention to the smallest of details playing a certain way will not last for as long, as it has been possible in the past. It's all about being able to change and evolve because of this. Look at Milwaukee and Utah from last season, for example - it took only half a season before other teams figured them out. The Spurs knew exactly what to do against the Heat in 2014, who were also dominant and Spurs didn't even have an elite player at the time. There's too much data and too many people looking at it, drawing conclusions and trying things now. Someone will come up with a formula to stop the Warriors and then they'd have to make changes. If they can sustain this and continue winning, then more power to them.
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