thanks for sharing BatManu.
I liked JSimms interview, he said Pop screamed it at him that he was starting the second half.
I guess Pop was really upset lol
I agree. I wonder, at this level, can someone like Kawhi develop more explosiveness or not really? I always thought that if he had a quicker first step and more explosive vertical, he'd be a lot closer to Lebron as far as being unstoppable goes (they still have different games as Lebron is a better play maker). This is why I really wanted him to work with Tim Grover (Jordan's former trainer) the past couple of off-seasons after I read that Kawhi wanted to work with him. I'm sure I read about it around two off-seasons ago that he was supposed to work with him, but I don't think that it ever happened. I was hoping that Grover could help make him a little more explosive.
Kawhi is a ing specimen himself. Way better athlete than Simmons. Not too many 245lb wings. Just look at his dunk reels.
Wing-stop shirts with Spurs logo.
With the gym rat reputation that Kawhi has, I am sure he has maximized the athleticism and explosiveness he has.
Even in draft measurements, he was not ever recorded to be an explosive leaper and his lack of a super quick first step, which made it hard for him to blow by guys, combined with his lack of a 3 pt shot is part of the reason he was not projected to be the superstar that he's become.
I think he has maximized all his tools and genetics just really establish a limit. The good news for Kawhi is that his game does not depend on him being a leaper. He doesn't have the same situation that a guy like J.Simms, who would need to add other things to his game, after his explosiveness goes, would be in, but J.Simms is a role player. AT this point, he can call himself lucky to exploit his God-given hops for a few more years. Because he's older he could possibly have a shorter career.
I'm not so sure Simmons could dunk with 40 extra pounds.
Last edited by BatManu20; 12-14-2015 at 04:06 AM.
Kawhi wasn't an insane athlete even when he came into the league at a much lower weight. He has insane physical attributes (size/length), but in terms of strict athleticism, he's not elite in that aspect. I'd say he's slightly above average. But slightly above average athleticism combined with ridiculous size/length = physical freak.I'm not so sure Simmons could dunk with 40 extra pounds.
FWIW, Simmons's vertical coming into the league was half a foot higher than Kawhi's. I know hops aren't the only aspect of athleticism, but it's not like Kawhi is blazingly fast or anything either. I really don't see how you could say Kawhi is a "way better athlete" than Simmons.
Not an impressive shooting display, but a decent game. Led the team in assists in 23 minutes. 1/2 from 3. Zero turnovers in 23 minutes. First start and most significant minutes of his 12 games played. He did fine. Showed a little more confidence and a little more aggressiveness. He did ok.
I agree with you. He played a role, and he did it well.
I sound like a broken record, but: Cory was here four years. Ray just got here. Ray has only been in NBA 2 years to CJ 4, as well. CJ all w/ The Spurs, playing here or in Austin, learning the system. Ray may never be as good as Cory, but you should be comparing Ray to second year CJ. Unfortunately everyone suffers from recency bias and 3rd or 4th year CJ and his Ibaka dunk. Take that away, put him in a time machine back to his second year with The Spurs, and there is no love affair with him. , I didn't think he was worth a even after 4 years. He stepped up when Patty went down, but was just a slightly above average warm body that had the benefit of playing his entire career in our system.
Umm, both have had cake schedules. And in terms of Pythagorean wins, Ws are one better. There's a difference, but not a 15 game difference in final W/L record as the current records would indicate. There's also a reason the Spurs are the only team favored against the Ws the rest of the season in the two home games:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../NBA_2016.html
In any other season, the Spurs would be a prohibitive le favorite given the first 30% of the season. This isn't a normal season though.
Warriors might have a somewhat easy schedule but Spurs schedule is by far weaker than even that so the record at this point being with 5 loses is bad, Spurs playing poor basketball and you fool even to think they should be favorite over the likes of cavs, thunder, clippers...
The offense isn't clicking, but still top 5 in the league right now. Here are the teams with sub-100 DRtg since 2004-05 - the past ten years, or since the NBA did away with hand-checking and made other pro-offense rule changes (6 teams alone in 2003-2004):
This year's Spurs 94.4
(Bulls, Celtics, Heat are all between 99-100 this year too.)
2005 Spurs 98.8 2006 Spurs 99.6 2007 Bulls 99.6 2007 Spurs 99.9 2008 Celtics 98.9 2012 Celtics 98.2 2012 Bulls 98.3 2012 Sixers 99.2 2013 Pacers 99.8
You can't tell me that's not elite.
I guess Vegas is a fool too. You should move there and make some money. Cavs and Thunder, fine. Not favored over the Clippers? They're awful right now.
Are you a ing moron? I saw Kawhi up close. Just like hater. Just like bill simmons calling him a top 5 athlete in the game. He is a ing monster and way way better athlete than simmons.
Kawhi came into the league at 230. Simmons was 195 this year at 27 years old. He wouldn't be able to ing dunk if he weighted 245 pounds. That's just real talk.
Sorry for the cussing. Had to express self.
Spurs offense sucks big time, i don't care what some numbers say, they played against weak ass schedule, defense also overrated, 5 loses is a disgrace...
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