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Don't see us making the salaries work, I wouldn't give up Green or Diaw for him.
I don't think gray names can demand Blackenings (is that racist?) upon other gray names...
Maybe I'm wrong.
I would think that you, of all posters here would be a gay, I mean a gray that gets taken seriously around these parts so all bets are off, but...
I'll say this: if he gets bolded- I'll...
Nah- I ain't gon' do nuthin' yet, my main man.
I still be Irie with me gray paint and my living in the clouds til otherwise be said.
WTF am I talking about?! I need to slow down on this sooper gud and Balvenie...
Don't see us making the salaries work, I wouldn't give up Green or Diaw for him.
He was Michael Jordan last time he played against us, though, tbqh.
RA is a FA this summer. One of the reasons they want to move him.
No reason to trade for Anderson when Kawhi/Diaw are on the roster. Even LMA/Diaw can stretch the floor so no need for an undersized PF. A team like the Rockets could use him since they are starting Howard/Capella together
I'd like to get Thabo but aside from Bud wanting to keep him, moneywise, we don't have the players worth giving up on our end to make such a deal work.
Who would you want to give up? I think he's ok, but I'm not sure who they'd be willing to take and who we'd be willing to give.
Why would Bud give up Thabo when they are thin at the wing position? Their depth is the PG/PF spot.
I really like Anderson but we're fine with Boris.
However, the idea of play Kawhi at SG with Boris, LMA and Duncan against Thompson, Barnes, Green and Bogut isn't bad. Thompson can't defend Kawhi in the post, Boris is a mismatch nightmare for Barnes...
I know, it's a pipe dream but this is more sensible than asking for Ryan Anderson. Besides, Bud and Pop always seem to manage to hook each other up so it's not an impossible scenario, tbh. I'm not expecting it, of course.
Son, I'm a legend around here.
The idea Kawhi at the 2 has been something I've been mulling over this season. The only way it would work though is if you had a matchup problem taking his spot at 3, Kyle isn't there yet and Butler is strictly a bench guy. Which is why I liked the idea of Anderson if we were bringing him in to play the 3 (I know he mostly plays 4, but he can at least on offense play 3 sort of like Gallo or Hedo). I do like the idea of Boris playing 3 with Leonard, LMA, and TD on the floor. Other teams would be forced to have their 2 guards on Kawhi which would be almost comical. Kawhi would basically be the Lebron James of the shooting guard position at that point.
So was Matt Bonner against a couple of teams but when the playoffs rolled around, Anderson regressed.
Hence me saying that you, of all gray posters here would get the benefit of the doubt in my original post.
Now I'm beginning to figure out why you were made a joke out of being blacked, rather than actually being graced in that great, great thread.
Bud might hookup Pop w/ Schroder in exchange for Kyle next summer. Kyle can be their Diaw & Schroder can be Manu's replacement then eventually become the starting PG by 2017-18 when Tony is on his last legs. It seems like Schroder is dischanted & might pull a Reggie Jackson if his role isn't elevated in the near future. Teague/Schroder will be free agents in the summer of 2017 so that will be D-Day for Bud.
That would be a nice scenario too.
For Bud to agree to that Kyle's stock would need to rise, but you are right ATL could be facing a potential Reggie Jackson situation with Schroder.
Let's say for whatever reason Kyle shows up in the postseason.... whatever it is, Bobo is sucking or someone else in small ball lineup is not cutting it, so Pop throws him to the fire and we see something nice there, his passing combined with maybe some clutch shots like we have seen him hit already.... and solid defense. Then at that point, he would become intriguing. Right now I don't think anyone would take Kyle/Schroder trade straight up.
However, being still a young guy, having the resume he's had, and showing potential in the post-season like that, I would think at that point he could become intriguing for Atlanta, maybe some other teams too, who knows? You have to look at how Batum has turned Charlotte's fortunes around. Having an a-positional SF type who is a playmaker and can shoot has a lot of value in the league.
Kyle would need to leap in shooting.... but Pop has him working strictly on defense and passing and not promoting any stat chasing.
Schroder isn't lighting it up either & since salaries have to much he can't be traded for an established player. Bledsoe got traded for Re when he was an average role player & Reggie Jackson was traded for Waiters who was JR Smith status w/ the Cavs. Unless Schroder picks it up then it's not inconceivable that Kyle shows enough potential to warrant a swap if Schroder starts rocking the boat (might have to throw a late 1st rd pick to sweeten the pot).
Well he's scoring better than Kyle, and playing more. Kyle is probably viewed as a project. He's been displaced by Simmons with good reason, Schroder has had a set role for two seasons.
You are right though a 1st rounder could be needed. It is indeed a trade that could work for both teams.
All the Spurs' draft picks have been late-round for almost 20 years. Do you really think the Spurs would see Schroder as more valuable than Anderson PLUS whatever player they would get with the pick? (Think: Tony Parker, Beno Udrih, Ian Mahinmi, Tiago Splitter, George Hill, Cory Joseph.)
Good points op... Nice to bring it up, but no way it happens... He would fit pops system ala bonner replacement.. Just don't see green going anywhere, way too valuable
It depends on their plans for the future. As you know the Spurs are not averse to trades completely if they will improve the team... see G.Hill and Tiago. They traded a second rounder for Ray, a guy who was another second round player and who is not getting much playing time right now. So yes, while I see the Spurs as very careful managing their assets and players, they are not averse to a trade if it is required to improve the team moving forward.
I dont' see Schroder as a need right now, and it is questionable bc Tony and Patty are set for the future, but he's an intriguing developing young player who could be developed to replace Tony in the SL in the future. There are some egos there, as Tony wants to continue to be a PG for however many years, but who knows if he will reach that goal. Projecting our future PG situation is speculative at this point of course.
I also personally like Kyle a lot, and I would be reluctant to give up on him, but right now he's not getting playing time, as Simmons has emerged as a better option and as it stands, J.Simms is even eating into Danny's minutes. Kyle could really at this point find himself in a situation where he is not getting sufficient playing time bc there are better options ahead of him in the roster and not necessarily because he can't play.
He's had some nice games, but he's not had a constant set group or minutes to build up on whatever success he achieved early and thus, he's regressed. He looks unsure, lacking confidence and aggression out there. He might be better off in a different team that can really use his skillset (a passing SF/potential small ball 4) and we might get a nice piece to build up for the future as well.
Unless the Spurs are really dead set on seeing him as a piece of the future. Who knows?
If Simmons is the real deal then Kyle will be the odd man out for the wing rotation so it would basically be like trading a late 1st for Schroder as far as the Spurs are concerned even though the Hawks would also get Kyle who would be a rotation player b/c of their depth or lack-thereof at the wing position.
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