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    This reminds me of all the Mahinmi and Blair threads, after they went to Dallas. Every time they made it down the court without tripping, someone was crying that it "proved" how good they really were. "If Pop had only given him a chance. Waaah."

    And Blair/Mahinmi were both more valuable at the NBA level than J-J-J-Jimmer.
    I never liked Mahimi. And to the best of my knowledge, Blair requested to leave. I guess the caveat was unless he had an increased role. As for Jimmer, people can think what they want. I think he's a much better player than McCallum though.
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    so....you completely ignore all the flaws to Jimmer's game...but then say Ray won't get better based on.....nothing? there's no way he'll improve? this is his ceiling? based on....nothing? great take.
    What flaws am I allegedly ignoring? How is Jimmer's game not better than Ray's? McCallum is nothing special whatsoever.
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    and i'm not a jimmer hater. i'm on record here saying i'd have kept him over bonner to see if he could develop into something serviceable.
    No need to get rid of Bonner when the Spurs could've just cut McCallum whose services would not be needed with Jimmer around.
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    No need to get rid of Bonner when the Spurs could've just cut McCallum whose services would not be needed with Jimmer around.
    The Spurs decided, with far more information about both players than we have, to cut Jimmer as he was not needed with Ray around. They were the second NBA franchise to choose Ray over Jimmer.
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    The Spurs decided, with far more information about both players than we have, to cut Jimmer as he was not needed with Ray around. They were the second NBA franchise to choose Ray over Jimmer.
    I love how trolls keep arguing that teams have an heir of infallibility.
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    I love how trolls keep arguing that teams have an heir of infallibility.


    Resorting to name calling.
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    I love how trolls keep arguing that teams have an heir of infallibility.
    He has had several opportunities and at this point every NBA team is choosing not to sign him to an NBA contract.
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    He has had several opportunities and at this point every NBA team is choosing not to sign him to an NBA contract.
    That goes for the entire d-league. Maybe, we should cancel the league. The teams have spoken after all.
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    Resorting to name calling.
    Classifying, tbh.
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    So, people who disagree with you and point out simple facts are trolls?

    Got it.
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    That goes for the entire d-league. Maybe, we should cancel the league. The teams have spoken after all.
    The teams have spoken by not currently offering him an NBA contract. Maybe that means Jimmer belongs in the D-League and not on an NBA roster.
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    So, people who disagree with you and point out simple facts are trolls?

    Got it.
    Simple facts? Try fallacies.
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    The teams have spoken by not currently offering him an NBA contract. Maybe that means Jimmer belongs in the D-League and not on an NBA roster.
    I thought we were gonna cancel the d-league since final determinations have been made? What happened to that train of thought?
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    I thought we were gonna cancel the d-league since final determinations have been made? What happened to that train of thought?
    I never said that the D-league should be canceled. That was the suggestion in your post.
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    Simple facts? Try fallacies.


    It is a fact that Jimmer and Ray were on the same team twice in the last two years. Both teams cut Jimmer and retained Ray. Simple facts.
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    I love how trolls keep arguing that teams have an heir of infallibility.
    LMAO... you just called Mel_13 a troll? Seriously? A person who has been here for years and years, making good solid posts about basketball? And because he says something you personally disagree with, he's a troll? That's seriously as ing ignorant as all the krew losers.

    Tell you what. We'll take up a collection and see if we can get one of Jimmer's old jocks for you to sniff. You've earned it.
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    I never said that the D-league should be canceled. That was the suggestion in your post.
    Yea, but by your logic there was no need for a d-league. NBA determinations are set in stone.
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    It is a fact that Jimmer and Ray were on the same team twice in the last two years. Both teams cut Jimmer and retained Ray. Simple facts.
    Simple facts that ignore complexities. Ray McCallum is nothing special; Jimmer has long term potential.
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    LMAO... you just called Mel_13 a troll? Seriously? A person who has been here for years and years, making good solid posts about basketball? And because he says something you personally disagree with, he's a troll? That's seriously as ing ignorant as all the krew losers.

    Tell you what. We'll take up a collection and see if we can get one of Jimmer's old jocks for you to sniff. You've earned it.
    You can eat a for all I care.
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    Yea, but by your logic there was no need for a d-league. NBA determinations are set in stone.
    I never said there isn't a need for a D-league. In fact it is a good place for Jimmer since he can't currently get an NBA contract. You just can't admit that Jimmer might belong in the D-league instead of the NBA.
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    I never said there isn't a need for a D-league. In fact it is a good place for Jimmer since he can't currently get an NBA contract. You just can't admit that Jimmer might belong in the D-league instead of the NBA.
    I think you're putting words in my mouth. Actually, I think Jimmer is benefiting from the solid amount of minutes he's getting. None of that is to refute: Jimmer > Ray.
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    Simple facts that ignore complexities. Ray McCallum is nothing special; Jimmer has long term potential.


    So, not fallacies then?

    Your evaluation of Jimmer is not shared by anyone in a position to hire him to play in the NBA. Beyond that, two separate NBA teams had both players under contract and both chose Ray over Jimmer. Not that complex.

    Those people are not infallible, but Jimmer has been a pro for five years, is nearly 27 years old, and finds himself without one of the 450 roster spots in the NBA. It seems much more likely that he finds himself in that situation due to his own shortcomings rather than the collective failure of 30 NBA player evaluation staffs.
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    I think you're putting words in my mouth. Actually, I think Jimmer is benefiting from the solid amount of minutes he's getting. None of that is to refute: Jimmer > Ray.
    Ray has an nba contract. Jimmer does not.
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    So, not fallacies then?

    Your evaluation of Jimmer is not shared by anyone in a position to hire him to play in the NBA. Beyond that, two separate NBA teams had both players under contract and both chose Ray over Jimmer. Not that complex.

    Those people are not infallible, but Jimmer has been a pro for five years, is nearly 27 years old, and finds himself without one of the 450 roster spots in the NBA. It seems much more likely that he finds himself in that situation due to his own shortcomings rather than the collective failure of 30 NBA player evaluation staffs.
    i honestly don't think there is anything that you or anyone else can say that will change his opinion That jimmer has a bright future in the NBA.
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    i honestly don't think there is anything that you or anyone else can say that will change his opinion That jimmer has a bright future in the NBA.
    It does appear unlikely.
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