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Question -- Can Boban be extended during the regular season? If so, 2-3 years at $3 (or so) million/year would be my bet.
Do any of our many "rules" experts know whether he can be extended before the summer?
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Question -- Can Boban be extended during the regular season? If so, 2-3 years at $3 (or so) million/year would be my bet.
Do any of our many "rules" experts know whether he can be extended before the summer?
Can't be extended.
The guy has some basketball skills beyond just taking up a of a lot of space. Good hands, pretty good close-in shooter, and passer. To add to this, he really plays hard, running the court in transition.
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He's a RFA so Spurs will have a chance to tender him an offer, and then match anything he gets. Offers extended to him stay outstanding for 72 hours and lock up cap space, which is why we see few RFA offers from outside teams. Could happen though.
My expectation is the team locks him up in offseason during moratorium period.
Hopefully no stupid front office offers him a ridiculous contract and he can stay a Spur. He's a beast and already a fan favourite, not just in SA either, fans In other cities embrace him when he is on the court and playing well. He seems like a really nice fella and Tim seems to be mentoring him really well. Given his insane size he may not have a very long career and I hope he stays with the good guys. Go Boban! Hopefully RC and Peter show him some love this offseasonWould help his chances of staying with us If he can raise the LOB Trophy 30 feet high in the air in June!
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Boban needs the right teammates to make him effective. So I doubt other teams are going to pay premium.
There are plenty of other teams like the Lakers with Hibbert and the Hawks with Tavares who have trouble exploiting the size. The problem is the lack of mobility is a liability in today's NBA.
He will likely get offers from other teams. Hopefully he'll stayHopefully no stupid front office offers him a ridiculous contract and he can stay a Spur. He's a beast and already a fan favourite, not just in SA either, fans In other cities embrace him when he is on the court and playing well. He seems like a really nice fella and Tim seems to be mentoring him really well. Given his insane size he may not have a very long career and I hope he stays with the good guys. Go Boban! Hopefully RC and Peter show him some love this offseason
He's an Arenas RFA. His absolute max is $52M/4. For the Spurs, that would be 5, 6, 20, 21. For other teams, it'd be 13 flat. But no one is going to come close to that. I imagine Boban will sign a two-year deal at less than $7 Million total.
Hope so
Boban is a humongous big with quick feet and good hands. He's not a stiff like Hibbert and runs the floor. Same with Tavares. You sound like someone who hasn't been watching him run with PF up and down the court beating them to the paint and then burying dunks in their faces. He got Wall on a switch and shut him down.
We need to see more but your take is stupid and without basis. Mentioning marginal bigs and trying to force a comparison is asinine.
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My fear is that teams see him as equivalently productive to an Aaron Baynes, and offer him similar money. They are very different players, but some teams might simply see the role and Spurs pedigree and make the jump. Baynes is getting close to $7M/year and I seriously doubt we'd match anything over $5M annually for Boban. Really hope we can keep him for $3-4M a year though.
Baynes had a rescinded tender. I bet Boban's isn't and he ends up never seeing the market. He wanted to come here and it seems like he is getting along well with the team.
I think the Baynes deal is a fair comparison. He likely won't play as much as Baynes but he looks to be a better prospect than Baynes as well. It's not an unreasonable starting point.
Baynes got one year/2M as an RFA after playing 491 minutes as the 5th/6th big. He got the big money coming off a season as a unrestricted rotation big.
When Asik got 3 years/25M as an RFA , he had played nearly 2000 minutes in his first two seasons.
Boban has played 75 minutes in the NBA. Barring an injury to one of the 4 primary bigs, he probably won't play more than 400 minutes this season.
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Two years at around $7M is exactly what I was thinking. The Spurs will be hard pressed to find anyone as good without spending substantially more than that. He WILL get other offers/interest, but I hope that would be enough to keep him here. But I wouldn't be shocked if someone offered more than that. You can't teach tall.
"He needs the right teammates to be effective"? WTF does that even mean? Everybody is better when they are surrounded by talent. But an experienced 7'3" guy who isn't a bean-pole? He's going to be effective for anyone. The only caution I have is how many minutes he's capable of playing on a regular basis. A lot of really huge guys just can't keep going for long stretches - heart size is what I've heard. I have a feeling he might start to slow down if he has to go much past 20 minutes on a regular basis. But I'll take a giant who can give 20 solid minutes a night, any time.
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Asik was RFA over 4 years ago but that does make a decent ceiling for RFA in general. Cap was $58m when he signed and $70m this year. So that is 3/30 in last years terms.
Boban isn't going to get anywhere near that. OTOH, 1/15th of the cap is now nearing $5m.
Baynes got better working out of the high post and in general not getting lost in the motion but he struggled mightily in both departments out the gate. He had post offense that finished with both hands and was a solid defender. Baynes struggled with awareness while Boban has presence. Baynes was the better leaper. But overall with superior stamina --another area Baynes struggled,-- flexibility, swivel, quickness, footspeed, 4 inches of height, 4 inches of reach, and 40 lbs, Boban makes the much superior athlete.
He's more comfortable running offense through him. Started out hitting his jumper with touch from more places on the floor. He plays the pnr shading much like Tiago does, cutting people off, forcing bad shots and even better getting some blocks. He cannot hedge, recover and play outside like Tiago could though. He does know how to use his size and space to good effect on switches. That remains more of an adventure with the Big Banger. Boban stopped being so tentative going after rebounds. Boban's reach is only 5 inches shy of the rim and he is showing a nose for blocks. I hope both continue to improve but he's already showing a talent.
I bet he gets far more than the $2m Baynes got his last year here. Spurs are the most pragmatic team in pro sports. They'll work it out if they haven't already.
The huge difference in the salary cap from 2014 to 2016 suggests that Boban will do better than Baynes as an RFA. He was also more accomplished in Europe than Baynes. There have also been some reports that Boban had better offers from other NBA teams, but viewed the Spurs as the best organization for his transition. Anything approaching Asik money will require some significant rotation time, imo.
I also believe that the Spurs will lock him up early in the July moratorium.
There's also the fact that he's a "Spurs project Big" to consider though. Plenty of teams can see how Baynes, and before him, Ian Mahinmi, developed in the Spurs system and turned into solid NBA bigs. It's not out of the realm of possibility that a team simply puts their faith in the Spurs' scouting and developmental system and tries to scoop Boban up before he hits unrestricted free agency by slightly overpaying now.
I don't believe a slight overpay will keep the Spurs from matching and I believe a gross overpay is extremely unlikely.
Speaking of Ian, I think he could be a dark-horse candidate to return to the Spurs as the starting five if Tim retires. He's become a legitimate center since leaving the team. He's still a little foul-happy, but he's actually decent enough in that department to play starter's minutes. The guy is still under 30 despite the Spurs drafting him 11 years ago, so he'd fit in with LMA for a couple of years.
By far the best option for the Spurs next year is to hope Tim (and Manu) return -- regardless of what happens this year. But if that doesn't happen, the Spurs will be extremely limited on what they can do financially. Ian shouldn't be too expensive (though he won't be really cheap either), so unless there are still some hard feelings between him and the team, he looks to be the best outside option out there.
I have been pretty impressed by Ian's development since we let him go - so much so that I have wondered from time to time why we did let him go. Was it just money, or were there other issues? Barring such "other issues" I wouldn't mind bringing him back at the right price. However, I really expect Tim to return for at least 2016-17 and possibly even 2017-18.
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