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Seriously? You want me to google that for you? Or does your preferred media outlet not show that to you? if not, why is that?
Don't ask questions you are too lazy to find the answers to.
Seriously? You want me to google that for you? Or does your preferred media outlet not show that to you? if not, why is that?
(sighs)
Your claim, your burden of proof.
Draw the parallels. Give me examples of actual ISIS propaganda, and statements by CAIR in context, and show me how they are "exactly the same". If they are exact, I would expect it would be easy for you.
My bet:
You can't show it, and are likely too lazy to try. You have a cartoonishly simplified version of both in your head that you will be unable to reconcile using your own words.
Ah it. Been a while since I google-pwned someone.
http://time.com/4112830/muslims-pari...islam-condemn/Several Muslim religious and political leaders officially denounced the attacks before the group took responsibility, including Iranian president Hassan Rouhani, who called them a “crime against humanity,” and Qatari foreign minister Khaled al-Attiyah, who said they were “heinous.” Rouhani had been scheduled to visit France as part of a wider European trip this weekend but has postponed his plans.
same article.Indonesian President Joko Widodo, leader of the world’s most populous Muslim nation, said that”Indonesia condemns the violence that took place in Paris.”
More spirited responses came from ordinary people. On Twitter, many referred to the hashtag #TerrorismHasNoReligion, seeking divorce Islam from the dogma espoused by extremists.
http://muslimscondemningthings.tumblr.com/But in the midst of Islamic extremism, Arsalan Iftikhar tells NPR’s Michel Martin that a majority of Muslims prescribe to a peaceful interpretation of Islam.
Iftikhar adds that a wide range of mainstream Muslim scholars have actively condemned terrorism, and people like Osama bin Laden have “essentially yanked the microphone of global Muslims.”
In the Name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful
http://www.islamicity.org/1218/musli...ondemn-attack/Dr. Yahia Abdur-Rahman, from the Islamic Shurah Council of Southern California (ISCSC), offers Supplication For The Victims
Dr. Maher Hathout, from the the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC) and The Islamic Center of Southern California (ICSC), condemns the attack and issues a statement. Click here to listen
Dr. Ahmad Sakr, from the Islamic Education Center (IEC), offers his condolences to the families of the victims and condemns the attack. Click here to listen
Dr. Muzammil Siddiqi, former president of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), condemns the attack. Click here to listen
N.J. Muslim leaders strongly condemn terrorist attacks in Paris
http://www.nj.com/middlesex/index.ss...ndemn_ter.html
Read more: http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/...#ixzz3v6c8lM9gAl-Azhar: Islamic State Is Corrupt And “A Danger To Islam.” Lebanese paper The Daily Star reported that Al-Azhar’s Grand Mufti Shawqi Allam, Egypt’s highest religious authority, denounced the Islamic State as a threat to Islam and said that the group both violates Sharia law and humanitarian law: “[They] give an opportunity for those who seek to harm us, to destroy us and interfere in our affairs with the [pretext of a] call to fight terrorism.” [The Daily Star, 8/13/14]
Read more at http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/...4fx18ddxLTF.99
Turkey’s Top Cleric: Islamic State’s Threats Are “Hugely Damaging,” “Truly Awful.” Turkey’s highest ranking cleric, Mehmet Gormez, decried the Islamic State’s declaration of a “caliphate” and argued that the statements were damaging to the Muslim community, according to Reuters:
“Such declarations have no legitimacy whatsoever,” Mehmet Gormez, head of the Religious Affairs Directorate, the highest religious authority in Turkey, which, although a majority Muslim country, has been a secular state since the 1920s.
“Since the caliphate was abolished … there have been movements that think they can pull together the Muslim world by re-establishing a caliphate, but they have nothing to do with reality, whether from a political or legal perspective.”
Gormez said death threats against non-Muslims made by the group, formerly known as Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), were hugely damaging.
“The statement made against Christians is truly awful. Islamic scholars need to focus on this (because) an inability to peacefully sustain other faiths and cultures heralds the collapse of a civilization,” he told Reuters in an interview. [Reuters, 7/22/14]
Read more: http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/...#ixzz3v6cEUYQ4
Read more at http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/...4fx18ddxLTF.99
Faith leaders join Muslim-Americans in Las Vegas to condemn terrorism — PHOTOS
http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/la...rrorism-photos
70,000 Muslim Clerics Issue Fatwa Condemning Terrorism
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/7...ing-terrorism/
U.S. Muslims ask why their religion's condemnation of violence often goes unheard
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...509-story.html
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This took me less than a few minutes to find in google.
I will ask simply:
Why do you not know about this? Serious question.
Really? Even if all Muslims were totally down with this jihad thing, you don't think that they would denounced ISIS, an org that kills far more Muslims than any other group combined?
Replace ISIS with CAIR. Same goal.
ISIS leaders know that they cannot destroy the United States. What they hope to do is to divide the American people and scare us,” said Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)
You're scared of ISIS and CAIR.
Why do you let the terrorists win TSA?
I guess I win my bet.
Re-stating something when asked for proof doesn't meet even clear the lowest bar for evidence.
Do you want me to be more specific, perhaps? Did you not understand the question?
What would suffice would be a statement by CAIR about their goals, with a link, and a statement from ISIS about their goals, and some link. That is what I am asking you for.
That way I can see for myself if what you said is true.
So, again, can you show me what evidence supports your statement? (assuming you care about the truth)
Last edited by RandomGuy; 12-23-2015 at 09:07 AM.
Best solution: Stop supporting the Arab Gulf states and the Turkish mafia government tbqh.
Case solved.
Define "support". What must be changed specifically?
You win the bet. Silly me for assuming two terrorist organizations had the exact same goals.
Ah.
So, you don't really care about what is true or not? ( I assumed incorrectly that you care about what is true or not?)
Last edited by RandomGuy; 12-23-2015 at 12:21 PM.
Communism was defeated because Gorbachev held onto power long enough for East Germany to escape the iron curtain, and because he refrained from shooting people as they crossed the checkpoint at the Berlin Wall. It's hard to believe East Germans didn't think Communism was dumb for the previous 45 years too.
I do care, enlighten me.
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