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    They are probably the worst, at this point, actually..at least the Sixers/Lakers have a nice tanking plan, and the Kings are actually competing for the 8 seed..

    Their roster construction doesn't make any sense, and their franchise's direction isn't clear, at all..are they trying to compete for a playoff spot or rebuild? They have a bunch of vets that have peaked, Hornacek doesn't have a rotation..are they trying to move them and develop Booker/Warren/Len? Doesn't make sense
    Not at all. We need to be focusing on the development of our younger players but we're playing PJ ing Tucker instead of TJ Warren. And who the didn't see Markieff being on the team at the beginning of the year as a problem besides our goddamn GM?

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    Tim to Tony to Manu! bdictjames's Avatar
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    Yes. I've known that for years, since Mike Tirico announced it in a Detroit/Minnesota game on ESPN his rookie year. It's a condition only about one in 800,000 people have in which all of the interior organs are located on the opposite side of where they normally are. This includes the heart, liver, pancreas, gallbladder, stomach, spleen, appendix, and sigmoid colon.
    Yup, its called dextrocardia. Pretty cool thing, I work at a hospital and I've seen it once. To listen to their heartbeats on the right side is pretty astounding in itself.

  3. #28
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    So throwing towels at coaches is a Suns thing

  4. #29
    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    Thank Christ. A good Christmas gift this year would be Horny's firing and Markieff playing elsewhere. We can focus on the owner and the GM next year.
    You'll have to use a gun to get Sarver out. He's like Buss' children, he's having the time of his life. He ain't giving that up. , I wouldn't either.

    I want to see McDonough get it though. His excuse yesterday was everybody except State and the Spurs weren't any good so the Suns shouldn't be blamed.

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    So throwing towels at coaches is a Suns thing
    If that didn't get started the Lakers are light at least 1 NBA le and it's like:::

    the tired old bag Duncan: 6

    Kobe: like 3?

  6. #31
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    They've forsaken Horny by not extending his contract. He's in the last year. Whenever that situation arises (in the past whether here, or, somewhere else where they can make some hay over) the local Media has numerous stories (talk shows grist mill) about it and stump for the poor fellow. Not this time. All quiet on the Phoenix front. It's a very tricky black & white situation here with Morris/black, Horny/white. Nobody wants to end up on the bread lines over it.

    I'll be honest,,,I ain't enjoyed watching Suns basketball in years. There was always the threat of victory even the worst of games. Now, there is the blessing of loss in every game. This is great.
    Like me watching the purple n piss. Every game day is xmas

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    & Sloan slunk away like a good white man will do now in the face of an angry black man. Look how I cowered when Kool threatened to beat my honkey ass a few months ago. I went into the RR and pushed the genuine imitation leather couch up against the door. I was scared less and even that was a 50% proposition before Kool started in.
    Get your lying ass out of here. I sent you to the padded room. Me.

  8. #33
    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    Get your lying ass out of here. I sent you to the padded room. Me.
    Yes, one moment you were pushing me. The next moment you were pulling me back. Make up your in' mind.

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    Like me watching the purple n piss. Every game day is xmas
    I'm a trend setter.

    I set trends.

  10. #35
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    Yes, one moment you were pushing me. The next moment you were pulling me back. Make up your in' mind.
    What the are you lying about now?

  11. #36
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    No, no, sweetheart. We ain't goin' back to the days of "make the postseason." That's how I found you fellows in this outpost. Uh, uh. There is one standard. One. 1. Just 1. NBA Champion. Anything else is (one of 29.)

    You ain't champ. You're no better than me.

    Now,

    Good mornin',

    &

    Let us proceed...
    Look, stupid. I'm talking about the present, this season. I know all you can talk about is the past, because your Kobe is playing retired and your Knicks-West have no present or future, but I'm talking this season. And in order to be 1, you've got to be in the top 16. You're lurking in the deepest of the deep with the Sixes and nobody else. We're riding high, sporting a 26-5 with a legit shot at 6. So either go back to your padded room or give me that reacharound I deserve.

  12. #37
    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    Look, stupid. I'm talking about the present, this season. I know all you can talk about is the past, because your Kobe is playing retired and your Knicks-West have no present or future, but I'm talking this season. And in order to be 1, you've got to be in the top 16. You're lurking in the deepest of the deep with the Sixes and nobody else. We're riding high, sporting a 26-5 with a legit shot at 6. So either go back to your padded room or give me that reacharound I deserve.
    I'm talking about the present as well. You ain't champion. You're in the pool of 29 with us.

    YOU AIN'T CHAMPPERIOD

  13. #38
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    I'm talking about the present as well. You ain't champion. You're in the pool of 29 with us.

    YOU AIN'T CHAMPPERIOD
    That was 6 months ago, the past, you know when you had Okafor in your sights.

    Right now, we're sitting at 26-5 on a barnstorming path to 6 while you have as many wins as we have losses with no future

  14. #39
    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    That was 6 months ago, the past, you know when you had Okafor in your sights.

    Right now, we're sitting at 26-5 on a barnstorming path to 6 while you have as many wins as we have losses with no future
    I don't give a . You ain't Champ, Splits. If you're Champ come June I'll cite ya. It will be like this:::

    the tired old bag Duncan: 6

    Kobe: 5

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    No, no, sweetheart. We ain't goin' back to the days of "make the postseason." That's how I found you fellows in this outpost. Uh, uh. There is one standard. One. 1. Just 1. NBA Champion. Anything else is (one of 29.)

    You ain't champ. You're no better than me.

    Now,

    Good mornin',

    &

    Let us proceed...
    You've rendered your "standard" to be moot since you go back on it so often. But it's within your right to say that's how you believe. It doesn't make it the rule however. The rest of us still know it's better to make a deep playoff run than to not even compete for years.

    Your argument should be lodged against those on the bubble, not those who are contenders for the ring.

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    Two years ago was the worst thing to happen. They were supposed to be bad, then won 48 games despite significant injuries. They figured with health and depth, they weren't many more years of development away from legitimate contention aka Warriors.

    Then Dragic blew a huge ing hole into the plan, and quietly they have been chasing what they lost in Channing Frye ever since they let him go.

    The Morris twins were always going to them over somehow.

    They tried to salvage their hurried plan by acquiring Knight, who, on paper looked to make a lot of sense as a good passer and solid perimeter shooter.

    They tried to address their woeful front court defense with Chandler.

    They kept Tucker.

    Meanwhile they have no idea what they have in Goodwin, and haven't committed to Warren in two years yet, and now have another rookie worth minutes in Booker who is playing behind a veteran who just signed a 70 million contract.

    They still have the picks and young talent to do a rebuild correctly.

    But now they are operating under the burden of expectations.

    And they have a tainted lockerroom and a toxic product turning away fans at a time the three other pro teams are building fan-friendly products.

    It starts and ends with Sarver.

    I was optimistic about McDonough, but I have a feeling he's compromised by Sarver's win-now edicts. Hornacek holds potential with a purge, but he's not a coach to get through to ups like Morris, Tucker or get the most out of hard-headed or half-hearted folks like Bledsoe, Knight.

    So, they are ed for the short term.

    Which likely means they are ed for the long term.

  17. #42
    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    You've rendered your "standard" to be moot since you go back on it so often. But it's within your right to say that's how you believe. It doesn't make it the rule however. The rest of us still know it's better to make a deep playoff run than to not even compete for years.

    Your argument should be lodged against those on the bubble, not those who are contenders for the ring.
    That's a sea change from what was '14 when you were Champion. It took me pre Pau a couple hard years to break you fellows from "it's better" belief. But, I did it. Me. Now, because we're burnt to the ground and you're still upright you want to shift back. I won't let that happen. I will not condone it. And you will thank me someday for not permitting you to back slide.

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    Two years ago was the worst thing to happen. They were supposed to be bad, then won 48 games despite significant injuries. They figured with health and depth, they weren't many more years of development away from legitimate contention aka Warriors.

    Then Dragic blew a huge ing hole into the plan, and quietly they have been chasing what they lost in Channing Frye ever since they let him go.

    The Morris twins were always going to them over somehow.

    They tried to salvage their hurried plan by acquiring Knight, who, on paper looked to make a lot of sense as a good passer and solid perimeter shooter.

    They tried to address their woeful front court defense with Chandler.

    They kept Tucker.

    Meanwhile they have no idea what they have in Goodwin, and haven't committed to Warren in two years yet, and now have another rookie worth minutes in Booker who is playing behind a veteran who just signed a 70 million contract.

    They still have the picks and young talent to do a rebuild correctly.

    But now they are operating under the burden of expectations.

    And they have a tainted lockerroom and a toxic product turning away fans at a time the three other pro teams are building fan-friendly products.

    It starts and ends with Sarver.

    I was optimistic about McDonough, but I have a feeling he's compromised by Sarver's win-now edicts. Hornacek holds potential with a purge, but he's not a coach to get through to ups like Morris, Tucker or get the most out of hard-headed or half-hearted folks like Bledsoe, Knight.

    So, they are ed for the short term.

    Which likely means they are ed for the long term.
    But, there was absolutely no empirical record to put any belief in McDonough. He did nothing in Boston. But, he came here and this local Media pimped him shamelessly. Even I was caught up in it. I was afraid for no other reasons than my own Suns hatred disease and the constant "A rock star." again & again on 98.7. He ain't . Just another asshole putting out excuses every ing time something goes wrong &/or they lose.

    And like I said earlier this morning,,,Sarver ain't giving this up. Sure, he wants to win, but, he'll take losing as long as he has this seat of ownership. And I don't blame him. I'd make you come and get me too with a court order.

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    That's a sea change from what was '14 when you were Champion. It took me pre Pau a couple hard years to break you fellows from "it's better" belief. But, I did it. Me. Now, because we're burnt to the ground and you're still upright you want to shift back. I won't let that happen. I will not condone it. And you will thank me someday for not permitting you to back slide.
    Yet you say "it's better" to miss the playoffs. By your logic then the Lakers are about as good as they can possibly be unless one day they magically win the ring without ever having had to have a playoff failure. Getting built to that level isn't good, since it could mean you make the playoffs but don't win a ring, and that's worse than missing the playoffs.

    You've not broken anyone from anything. You aren't the standard bearer. Your view on things is too convenient in your court and too extreme in your opponent's. It's self serving to say the least, and I doubt anyone here has adopted it. If anything, they turn it back on you when the opportunity arises.

    Holding you to your own arbitrary standard isn't the same as adopting it ourselves.

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    Yet you say "it's better" to miss the playoffs.

    You've not broken anyone from anything. You aren't the standard bearer. Your view on things is too convenient in your court and too extreme in your opponent's. It's self serving to say the least, and I doubt anyone here has adopted it. If anything, they turn it back on you when the opportunity arises.

    Holding you to your own arbitrary standard isn't the same as adopting it ourselves.
    That is just nonsense. I never said such. It was a suppository isolated question and I granted on it. Like would you lick a homeless man's ass crack for $10,000? Up & back? Of course I would.

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    Yet you say "it's better" to miss the playoffs.

    You've not broken anyone from anything. You aren't the standard bearer. Your view on things is too convenient in your court and too extreme in your opponent's. It's self serving to say the least, and I doubt anyone here has adopted it. If anything, they turn it back on you when the opportunity arises.

    Holding you to your own arbitrary standard isn't the same as adopting it ourselves.
    I am the standard bearer. The only difference is now I can't get there and you still can, so, you want to change the standard. No. It's one standard. Champion. My ruination is not your freedom. No.

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    That is just nonsense. I never said such. It was a suppository isolated question and I granted on it. Like would you lick a homeless man's ass crack for $10,000? Up & back? Of course I would.
    If I granted you that, you'd still be stuck with the notion that anything other than a ring is a failure. That means you cannot rebuild successfully unless you win a ring. I don't mean "eventually" I mean the same year of rebuilding or the following year.

    Let's take the Lakers for example:

    If the Lakers won 20 games this year, it would be a failure because they'd miss the lottery picks and the playoffs. If they won 55 games they'd be in the playoffs most likely and could make a decent run but probably not win a ring. So in 3 years, if the Lakers with their lottery picks and newly acquired free agents make a splash by winning 55 games and lose in the Finals, it's a failure because they could have hit the lottery and got a wild card in a college or HS player over-hyped as the next Jordan.

    So your standard leaves your own team no room at all, none. Still, those here calling for the tank as if it's going to go from lottery to ring without ever crossing over a playoff loss are in your court, and you should address it if you feel that way.

    Everyone else understands that its a process and recognize the growth as a good thing instead of some fronting some pretentious unreachable standard.

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    I am the standard bearer. The only difference is now I can't get there and you still can, so, you want to change the standard. No. It's one standard. Champion. My ruination is not your freedom. No.
    No you aren't. You get held to the things you claim to believe, but it has no bearing on how the rest of us think. It's amusing you think it does.

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    If I granted you that, you'd still be stuck with the notion that anything other than a ring is a failure. That means you cannot rebuild successfully unless you win a ring. I don't mean "eventually" I mean the same year of rebuilding or the following year.

    Let's take the Lakers for example:

    If the Lakers won 20 games this year, it would be a failure because they'd miss the lottery picks and the playoffs. If they won 55 games they'd be in the playoffs most likely and could make a decent run but probably not win a ring. So in 3 years, if the Lakers with their lottery picks and newly acquired free agents make a splash by winning 55 games and lose in the Finals, it's a failure because they could have hit the lottery and got a wild card in a college or HS player over-hyped as the next Jordan.

    So your standard leaves your own team no room at all, none. Still, those here calling for the tank as if it's going to go from lottery to ring without ever crossing over a playoff loss are in your court, and you should address it if you feel that way.

    Everyone else understands that its a process and recognize the growth as a good thing instead of some fronting some pretentious unreachable standard.
    Because there is none. We cannot get back. We slammed thru every STOP SIGN in a confluence of now historical markers. We're a living reminder of what can happen in what seems like the blink of an eye, but, is now over 5 years old and but for the grace of a "temporary injunction" goes back over a decade to the rape. I've went over this point-by-point many times. You don't get here by accident. Our hand prints are all over this.

    Now, just because we're no longer standing there with you doesn't mean the law changes. It does not.

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    No you aren't. You get held to the things you claim to believe, but it has no bearing on how the rest of us think. It's amusing you think it does.
    That's just because we're piled up against the abutment.

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