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    I like to analyze things, maybe overanalyze them if you will. I like to read other opinions than my own if they are not troll posts. Very often I disagree with App, he does tend to troll, or stick to a schtick and he likes yo call way too much attention to himself fir a basketball forum.

    I can appreciate though reading what he thought on a basketball game.

    We haven't had many close games, but those we have had have been hit or miss and a series of execution blunders were the culprit. It's fine to look at it and draw your own conclusion. Regular season is a process. You don't want to be in a lot of close games, but if you are, you have to figure it out.

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    Didn't read.

    Spurs lost on Christmas per par.
    They do always seem to lose on Christmas so I wish they would just stop scheduling them on that day and spare us.

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    They do always seem to lose on Christmas so I wish they would just stop scheduling them on that day and spare us.
    Yep, like 2 years ago vs. OKC. People said exact same things then and we know how that turned out

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    Well, he doesnt need to playmake like nash or manu. There are many superstars in the league who arent good at making plays for others except for guards obviously. The only superstar wing that is a good playmaker for others is lebron. Your criticism of him is totally unfair.
    It's not only fair, it's correct. Leonard's assist and free throw rate are shockingly low for a player of his caliber. He's clearly the worst of the elite players in these areas.

    It shows how unique a player he is though, that he was able to ascend to elite status despite obvious shortcomings in two areas typically associated with players of that caliber.

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    Kawhi also has some of the lowest turnover rates compared to some of those assist and free throw guys.

    Best defense in the league. Great efficient player on offense. Tons of go to moves. Really low turnover rates. Has improved his assist rate. Kawhi doesn't run the pick n roll too much to get assist numbers and there aren't any slashers in that starting lineup besides him. When he does get doubled, the ball moves around past the initial player that Kawhi passes it too.

    The system still only allows tony and manu and patty to PnR more than Kawhi. It is ing unfair to ask the guy to be a perfect ing basketball player.

    None of those other players are perfect either and I could find tons of faults with any other top 5 player in the league way easier than Kawhi.

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    Idgaf about his assists tbh. His defense alone makes him better than KD/PG.

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    Idgaf about his assists tbh. His defense alone makes him better than KD/PG.
    These guys keep moving the goal post. The last thing is free throws and assist and the system doesn't fully revolve around him PnR like lebron.

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    3 ways to get Kawhi's assist up lebald edition.

    1. Have more three point shooters around.

    2. Have more slashers.

    3 Run lots of PnR

    I just summarized the criticism on Kawhi is unwarranted.

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    It's not only fair, it's correct. Leonard's assist and free throw rate are shockingly low for a player of his caliber. He's clearly the worst of the elite players in these areas.

    It shows how unique a player he is though, that he was able to ascend to elite status despite obvious shortcomings in two areas typically associated with players of that caliber.
    Of course he doesnt since Pop doesnt allow him to. Have we ever seen kawhi go on pnr action every game? No. Most of his assists are from passing out of doubles or from driving and finding the open man.

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    Of course he doesnt since Pop doesnt allow him to. Have we ever seen kawhi go on pnr action every game? No. Most of his assists are from passing out of doubles or from driving and finding the open man.
    Yeah, that's what it is; Pop is holding him back . . . it's either that or Parker and Ginobili are superior pick-and-roll players.

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    Yeah, that's what it is; Pop is holding him back . . . it's either that or Parker and Ginobili are superior pick-and-roll players.
    stop moving the goalposts of course they are better but franchises have to move on at a certain time. You said Leonard has no chance of being a good perimeter pkayer because of lack of skillset, well as everyone have seen this kid didnt have any notable skill coming from college and look how he is now.

    You can't expect Kawhi to develop if he's not given chances to. I can go on circles with your unfair criticisms of him forever but doesnt that make you tired?

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    stop moving the goalposts of course they are better but franchises have to move on at a certain time. You said Leonard has no chance of being a good perimeter pkayer because of lack of skillset, well as everyone have seen this kid didnt have any notable skill coming from college and look how he is now.

    You can't expect Kawhi to develop if he's not given chances to. I can go on circles with your unfair criticisms of him forever but doesnt that make you tired?

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    It's crazy how Kawhi has so many haters within our own fanbase. Sad, really.

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    stop moving the goalposts of course they are better but franchises have to move on at a certain time. You said Leonard has no chance of being a good perimeter pkayer because of lack of skillset, well as everyone have seen this kid didnt have any notable skill coming from college and look how he is now.

    You can't expect Kawhi to develop if he's not given chances to. I can go on circles with your unfair criticisms of him forever but doesnt that make you tired?
    I never said "Leonard has no chance of being a good perimeter pkayer because of lack of skillset", you just made that up.

    Again, play making is a more inherent skill. It's not like other areas, where he's taken a quantum leap. This is not about moving on or giving chances; this is about them being flat out better than him at it.

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    It's crazy how Kawhi has so many haters within our own fanbase. Sad, really.
    No ing board hates Kawhi for than his own fanbase.

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    Yep, like 2 years ago vs. OKC. People said exact same things then and we know how that turned out
    We played OKC last christmas and they beat us without Durant I remember.


    They played Houston 2 years ago and lost again.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/gamecast?game...re&src=desktop

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    It's crazy how Kawhi has so many haters within our own fanbase. Sad, really.

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    I never said "Leonard has no chance of being a good perimeter pkayer because of lack of skillset", you just made that up.

    Again, play making is a more inherent skill. It's not like other areas, where he's taken a quantum leap. This is not about moving on or giving chances; this is about them being flat out better than him at it.
    I meant playmaker sorry.

    Of course, but not giving him any chances wont give him any progress either. I also give you instances where Kawhi has assisted and you simply brush it off as simple plays. Some of your criticism are really unfair and incorrect. I didnt comment about freethrows because I agree in that one.

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    It's crazy how Kawhi has so many haters within our own fanbase. Sad, really.
    He really doesn't.

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