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  1. #401
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    Actually, you are right; he played well this season. My remark was a kind of flippant endorsement of Wilson at Drew's expense. I don't think Drew will be able to play at that level much longer, though. Especially, as you say, if they don't get a defense. It all starts with the DC. I could not believe that Sean hired Rob Ryan after his disastrous tenure as Dallas' DC. Just robbed (pun) Brees of a couple of years of contention. Still would not mind getting Russell to replace Drew when the time comes. And the end can come suddenly - just ask Peyton Manning.
    I'm a huge RW fan (obviously) but he will never be on a par with Drew Brees. Brees without question the superior passer.

    Brees is in the top 3-4 in td passes and yards all time. One the best ever.

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    I'm a huge RW fan (obviously) but he will never be on a par with Drew Brees. Brees without question the superior passer.

    Brees is in the top 3-4 in td passes and yards all time. One the best ever.
    No, I don't expect the Saints will be able to replace Drew with a player of equal skill. Those guys don't come around very often. But Russell's size, arm strength, and especially leadership skill identify him as an excellent heir to Drew. No doubt that is a pipe dream. But as a Saints fan, I can dream.

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    No, I don't expect the Saints will be able to replace Drew with a player of equal skill. Those guys don't come around very often. But Russell's size, arm strength, and especially leadership skill identify him as an excellent heir to Drew. No doubt that is a pipe dream. But as a Saints fan, I can dream.
    One short QB replacing another, ha~~~~ RW does appear to have his stuff together like Brees and as we know he can also win. I get where you're at.

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    One short QB replacing another, ha~~~~ RW does appear to have his stuff together like Brees and as we know he can also win. I get where you're at.
    Similar stature, similar intangibles. Two short guys with great leadership skills who play with a chip on their shoulder and just know how to win.

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    This is fun.

    Peyton Manning's 4th season

    comp % 62.7
    td/int...26/23
    QB rating...84.1

    Russell Wilson

    68.1
    31/8
    109.3

    Pick out anyone see how they compare. How about Joe Montana?

    61.6
    17/11
    88.0

    Hmmmmmm? Joe Flacco?

    57.6
    20/12
    80.9

    Carson Palmer?

    64.9
    26/20
    86.7

    Tom Brady?

    60.2
    23/12
    85.9

    Ok one more, hmmmm?

    Cam Newton

    58.5
    18/12
    82.1

    How about the great Dan Marino?

    60.7
    44/23....wow~~~
    92.5


    So, as we can see RW is having a better 4th season than a lot of legends/greats.

    I bet we'd have to use Warren Moons CFL days to find somebody who did it better. Be right back.

    62.7
    27/12
    108.6....close!

    Yep, I was wrong.

    How about Big Ben?

    65.3
    32/11
    104.1

    Nope~~~~~~~

    Brett Favre?

    62.4
    33/14
    90.7

    Nope~~~~~~~~~~


    I got it, Drew Brees~~~~~~

    65.5
    27/7
    104.8

    Nope~~~~~~~~~


    Anyone have any suggestions?

    I got it~~~~~~ Johnny Unitas~~~~~~

    52.6
    32/14
    73.7

    Well I'll be damn.


    Russell Wilson appears to be "Da Man", huh?

    , in Andrew Lucks 4 game season he threw 12 INT's, 4 nore than RW has thrown in 15 games, ha~~~~~~~~

    I wonder how the first stud Seahawk QB Jim Zorn looked in his 4th season.

    Nevermind, they are so weak they aren't worth listings.

    I know, the GREAT Derek Anderson.

    Are you ing kidding me, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    44.5
    3/10
    42.1

    44.5?????
    3/10?????????
    42.1??????????????????

    Hahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~


    Ok ok, it's gotta be MATT HASSELBECK~!!!!!!!!!

    63.7
    15/10
    87.8

    Nope~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


    When ya compare athletes ya go with..."same stage of a career"....honest ya do, yes a 12 year vet will be better than a 4 year guy but were they better when they had but 4 seasons?

    Russell Wilson is a great young QB who is only going to get better like they all do. What he has done with just 4 seasons of NFL experience is amazing, only fools and know nothings wouldn't see this.
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    Avante has the bed with every Carolina prediction this year

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    Avante has the bed with every Carolina prediction this year
    Show me, prove it.

    There is only one game they shouldn't have been favored in and that was...AT...Seattle. So what was I wrong about and be specific.

    They had a three game home stand. Actually they had a schedule tailor made to win a lot of games early on, try five home games, a bye and just three road games in the first nine weeks.

    What was I wrong about, well?

    Dude, try just a little bit of real life, ok amigo? You 're so unrealistic it's comical. We all have our teams but keep things real, ok guy? RW has had a far better career than Newton, he's beat him many times, better playoff success and superior stats, yet ya STILL try to argue that, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

    Here are their career stats please pay attention ok?

    Cam

    comp % 59.3
    td/int...115/64
    QB rating...87.7

    RW

    64.7
    103/34
    101.4***

    What about that don't you understand?

    Now add...

    RW is 4-1 vs Cam.....ok?

    RW has won 6 playoffs games, Cam...one...ok?

    Keep things real, ok? You like Cam/Carolina but don't get stupid with it, alright?

    *** how many QB have a career QB rating of over a 100.....well?

    No QB in history has won more games than RW in the same time frame. ok?
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    Predicted us to lose about 5 games this year, and guess what? Won them all. But we lose one and we're a bit overrated, according to you.

    Funny how AZ loses two games to two back-ups but they're not overrated. All those weapons Cardinals have yet they average less than ONE point more than Carolina who has "no receivers".

    I used to give you respect, but now it's clear you don't watch all the games like you say you do.

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    Predicted us to lose about 5 games this year, and guess what? Won them all. But we lose one and we're a bit overrated, according to you.

    Funny how AZ loses two games to two back-ups but they're not overrated. All those weapons Cardinals have yet they average less than ONE point more than Carolina who has "no receivers".

    I used to give you respect, but now it's clear you don't watch all the games like you say you do.

    You should have lost the Seattle game, and could have easily have lost three more, ya won those by 3. You did play one of the sissy schedules in the NFL this is a fact.

    Dude, simply keep things real and cool the little girl at a rock concert hot for the drummer, ok? Which is what ya resemble.

    Do you really think they can beat both Seattle and Arizona and then NE? Come on man, hahaha~~~~~


    After checking it out I have ya going 13-3. Which isn't disrespect, still good.
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    Should have lost the game against Seattle? We had four 80 yard drives including two in the final 4 minutes. Yountalkabout my biases? Wilson looked like that game as did Lynch.

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    Should have lost the game against Seattle? We had four 80 yard drives including two in the final 4 minutes. Yountalkabout my biases? Wilson looked like that game as did Lynch.


    Dude, actually bone up on this stuff just a little bit....pretty please.

    Do you have any idea at all what the stats were for Newton vs RW in that game were, ya don't do ya?

    Come on guy start doing some homework, ok?

    Let me help ya.

    CAR @ SEA W 27-23 * 20 36 55.56 269 1 2 65.6 7.47 5.53 7 30 4.29 1 1
    CAR L 23-27 * 18 30 60.00 241 1 96.7 8.03 8.70 8 53 6.63

    Newton had an inferior comp %, two INT's and an inferior QB rating in that game.....ok? And was losing with less than a minute to go.,...ok?

    Newton...65.6 QB rating
    RW....96.7

    Ya got that, that's keeping it real, give it a shot, ok?
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    But he stepped up when it counted while Wilson the bed with two 3 and outs. Again showing you don't watch the games. Either that or you're too busy choking on Wilsons

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    The in redneck thinks watching the games since the 40s means anything. When you can't put stats into context and watch ESPN first take it becomes clear you dont know as much as you think.

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    But he stepped up when it counted while Wilson the bed with two 3 and outs. Again showing you don't watch the games. Either that or you're too busy choking on Wilsons
    I'm not the one totally ignoring the facts, why do you always play that? RW out played Newton in that game, do you understand...QB ratings?

    Little man.

    RW has owned Newton...4-1. Far better stats and playoff success, why continue to ignore reality?
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    The in redneck thinks watching the games since the 40s means anything. When you can't put stats into context and watch ESPN first take it becomes clear you dont know as much as you think.
    Little man, I was watching football before there was an ESPN/Carolina Panthers/NFC or a SB. ok? There is nothing I don't know about the game, got it? , I can talk about Panthers you've never heard of, trust me.

    The Panthers had a pussy schedule, got lucky in a few games and will lose in the playoffs, got it. That's reality, why you wander around in a fantasy world...?

    Why you fight the fact I know this stuff on a whole other level.,...????

    You mention context....so why do you ignore the pussy schedule the Panthers played, well?

    Little man, I own all those Niner cards, have Niner ball caps, Niner mugs, Niner posters, Niner stuff, ok? I'm a HUGE fan of my team HUGE!!!!!!! But, part of the game is the ebb and flo, ok? We have been the best a number of times, so we suck right now, oh well. Ya see unlike you I keeP things real, ok? Stop acting like a ing idiot because ya like a player/team, ok little guy?

    KEEP IT REAL~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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    Little man, I was watching football before there was an ESPN/Carolina Panthers/NFC or a SB. ok? There is nothing I don't know about the game, got it? , I can talk about Panthers you've never heard of, trust me.

    The Panthers had a pussy schedule, got lucky in a few games and will lose in the playoffs, got it. That's reality, why you wander around in a fantasy world...?

    Why you fight the fact I know this stuff on a whole other level.,...????

    You mention context....so why do you ignore the pussy schedule the Panthers played, well?
    For Carolina to lose (a real possibility) a team will have to come to BoA stadium and win, something that hasn't happened in well over a year - just as impressive as Seattle's home field advantage.

    Carolina has beaten the same amount of winning record teams as Arizona has, and the same number of playoff contenders.

    You're just a stupid inbred hillbilly.

    I dont think you know what lucky is. Lucky isn't being up 37-7 over the Packers then proceed to coast to an easy win, while stalling Rodgers in the redzone, where he's statistically great, and giving him b2b losses for the first time in 4 years.. Lucky isn't driving for four touchdowns for 80 yards a piece against Seattle. Lucky isn't being up 35-7 and winning a shooutout by a fieldgoal. That's called finishing the game.

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    For Carolina to lose (a real possibility) a team will have to come to BoA stadium and win, something that hasn't happened in well over a year - just as impressive as Seattle's home field advantage.

    Carolina has beaten the same amount of winning record teams as Arizona has, and the same number of playoff contenders.

    You're just a stupid inbred hillbilly.

    I dont think you know what lucky is. Lucky isn't being up 29-7 over the Packers then proceed to coast to an easy win, while stalling Rodgers in the redzone, where he's statistically great, and giving him b2b losses for the first time in 4 years.. Lucky isn't driving for four touchdowns for 80 yards a piece against Seattle. Lucky isn't being up 35-7 and winning a shooutout by a fieldgoal. That's called finishing the game.
    You really are about as dumb as a rock aren't ya stupid? Not a ing clue of any kind, wow~~~ I pity your parents, I bet ya embarrash them, huh?

    Stupid, do your ing homework..OK? yes ya got lucky in a few games, that's why ya won by...3 points. no ya didn't play the same strength of schedule the Cards played, to think ya did is beyond stupid.

    Dummy....ya should have lost vs the Giants. Then just a week later ya do lose. Now compare that to what the Cards are doing right now. They have won 8 in a row, getting hotter entering the playoffs, are the Panthers?

    Dummy...Cards played.

    Seattle twice (or will)
    Pittsburgh
    Cincy
    Vikes
    Packers

    Carolina had Houston/Wash two teams only here because of weak divisions. Something you know all about.
    Seattle
    Packers

    Keep it real~~~~~~

    This is real.

    Team Odds
    Arizona Cardinals 3/1
    New England Patriots 16/5
    Carolina Panthers 6/1
    Seattle Seahawks 8/1
    Denver Broncos 10/1
    Pittsburgh Steelers 14/1
    Green Bay Packers 18/1
    Kansas City Chiefs 20/1
    Cincinnati Bengals 25/1
    New York Jets 35/1
    Minnesota Vikings 40/1
    Washington Redskins 60/1
    Houston Texans 70/1
    Indianapolis Colts 9999/1


    Dude, the Cards have scored 483 and given up 277. the Panthers at 462/298 vs a weaker schedule. Those are the facts~~~~
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    It's cool to have your fav team and back them but to act like this freak over it, sheesh~~~~~~~ They have never won , yet the freak acts re ed about them, hahahaha!!!!!

    They are in that... NEVER WON THE BIG ONE CLUB... with.

    Browns
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    ans
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    It is funny watching how this goes.

    Russell Wilson is having the best start to a career we have seen, and there is nobody here who can prove that wrong. And ya all know it. Nobody has done more, won more.

    Notice how the minute he has a bad game/fumble/INT (like they all do) its.....STRUGGLE! HE SUCKS~~~ totally ignoring the fact nobody has ever been more successful with just 4 seasons of NFL experience.

    He had a five week period that set an NFL record.....crickets. He has made it very clear he doesn't need BEAST MODE....crickets.

    What is wrong with you people ya really that far gone? You really don't see the greatness that is RW? How is that possible when he's made it to the playoffs every season, he's in the pro bowl a third time and has set NFL records and won SB's.

    I find this amazing how all that gets ignored and it's....HE FUMBLED THE BALL, HE SUCKS~~~~~

    Give up on trying to put me in my place, that never works something ya found out wth the ATS betting, I know what I'm doing. Something that comes with experience, nobody here has more, trust me.

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    It's cool to have your fav team and back them but to act like this freak over it, sheesh~~~~~~~ They have never won , yet the freak acts re ed about them, hahahaha!!!!!

    They are in that... NEVER WON THE BIG ONE CLUB... with.

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    You can do all the searching ya want you will not find

    4024 yards
    34 TD's
    553 yards rushing

    Russell Wilson is the only QB in history to accomplish that in the same season, a season that saw....

    68.1 comp %
    4024 yards
    34/8 td/int
    110.1 QB rating
    553 rushing

    Now how in the did he do that without BEAST MODE, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I challenge this board to find anyone with a better 4th season in their career.

    Things only RW has done...

    Most starts in a 4 season career
    Only QB to post two 100 QB ratings his first two seasons
    Most wins in first 4 seasons
    Most playoff games in his first 4 seasons.
    The most td's without an INT in a five game span
    That above record

    Anyone STILL not getting this?

    Oh yeah, one yard away from winning two SB's in his first three seasons.

    Now all that will get ignored if he throws a pick/fumble to lose a game, now it's.... ING STRUGGLE....hahahahaha!!!!! Just how ing stupid are some of you?
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    You really are about as dumb as a rock aren't ya stupid? Not a ing clue of any kind, wow~~~ I pity your parents, I bet ya embarrash them, huh?

    Stupid, do your ing homework..OK? yes ya got lucky in a few games, that's why ya won by...3 points. no ya didn't play the same strength of schedule the Cards played, to think ya did is beyond stupid.

    Dummy....ya should have lost vs the Giants. Then just a week later ya do lose. Now compare that to what the Cards are doing right now. They have won 8 in a row, getting hotter entering the playoffs, are the Panthers?

    Dummy...Cards played.

    Seattle twice (or will)
    Pittsburgh
    Cincy
    Vikes
    Packers

    Carolina had Houston/Wash two teams only here because of weak divisions. Something you know all about.
    Seattle
    Packers

    Keep it real~~~~~~

    This is real.

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    New England Patriots 16/5
    Carolina Panthers 6/1
    Seattle Seahawks 8/1
    Denver Broncos 10/1
    Pittsburgh Steelers 14/1
    Green Bay Packers 18/1
    Kansas City Chiefs 20/1
    Cincinnati Bengals 25/1
    New York Jets 35/1
    Minnesota Vikings 40/1
    Washington Redskins 60/1
    Houston Texans 70/1
    Indianapolis Colts 9999/1


    Dude, the Cards have scored 483 and given up 277. the Panthers at 462/298 vs a weaker schedule. Those are the facts~~~~
    Jesus, you roasted the poor guy.

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    Jesus, you roasted the poor guy.
    The poor guy would back the Panthers in a row boat equipped with bb guns vs a battleship, no sense of reality at all.

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    Jesus, you roasted the poor guy.
    We will see. The clown has ed up with all his predictions. If you call "should of" losing a roast.. Then you must be the cow you ing .

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    We will see. The clown has ed up with all his predictions. If you call "should of" losing a roast.. Then you must be the cow you ing .
    Dude, the only clown here is your ing ...OH MY GOD THE PANTHERS YIPPPEEE!!!!!!....ass, ok?

    You were 4 plays away from being 12-4, so stop acting re ed, got it?

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