the difference between Spurs and Warriors is execution down the stretch..

[YGWHI]

I disagree, I dont want to decide a game on a 3 pointer. A good 3 point shooter shoots 40pc, an inside big will shoot close to 60pc. I didnt mind Pops play in game 7 last playoff series where he went for the high percentage alleyoop to Kawhi. If it wasnt for the rigged timekeepers i think we could have done it.

This thread is a comparison between Spurs execution down the stretch and Warriors's execution. The 3's is their way, and we have one of the best 3 point shooter in the league, too.

Anyway, I'd like the big-inside but you have two problems with that play, how to give the ball to our big when the opposing team is focused on dennyng him the ball , and how he will deal with the double team in the last seconds because it's more likely the opposing team not foul him and just send double team.

We can post LMA but he really excels as mid-range shooter in pick and pops situations and if he's double teamed he's not that great passer, Tim has been great but...Also, bic50 says Boban, I find him a good option, plus he's very effective from the line too.

[aal04]

Not sure. This problem is more on Pop than chemistry issues between players.

When he gave the ball to Kawhi to close a game in Chicago, it resulted in an ugly play, without screens, any other player moving and looking for the pass... he just gave the ball to Kawhi to figure out how to score a desperation 3's.

This is the problem. The defense on a game-on-the-line shot is ridiculously high. Drawing up a play with multiple passes is very difficult because defense is in your face and chances are, atleast 1-2 players in your play will be heavily locked down and the entire play will fall apart because it has too many dependencies. ISO and clear out has always been the safer option, especially when you can mismatch someone.

When he gave the ball to LMA to close the game in OKC, again, the designated play was a lot worse than the execution.

The last play of game 7 in LA? Calling the same play after Clippers adjusted the first time.

We had NO timeouts left. Pop could not draw up another play. This move was really dirty by the time keepers. Close to kings 2002 dirty.

[houston spurs fan]

We've only played 34 games. We're still trying to work our way through the new roles. Give it time, we'll be fine. I'll think you'll start to see Kawhi in the pick n'roll with LMA and TD as time goes on with TP spotting up in the corner.

Way too early to start worrying about this, we are fortunate to be 27-6.

[DPG21920]

Watch from 2:40 on




Ya, just perfect execution....ORRRRR, just some ridiculous shot taking and making. It's not to knock Curry, he's amazing and he can make bad shots. But it's not like they are running plays there taking great shots. He's chucking 34 foot 3PT's that are going in. It's not some machine when it comes to execution in the clutch. That's not to say they aren't running good sets and plays, but it's not all the time.

They are winning because they are great & have the best shot maker in the NBA plus other weapons. But unless you watch the games, stats like the OP are really misleading and there is a huge element of luck many times at the end of the game (Brook Lopez missing a dunk to win type stuff)

[houston spurs fan]

Jesus, i dont understand why people cant just.post what they think are the detailed problems instead of trying to.post like someone in the organization who will he held accountable for saying something in Public.

THE SPURS HAVE CHEMISTRY/TRUST/REALIZATIONS ISSUES LATE IN THE FOURTH.

even Manu have repeadly said he shoots too much at times wrongfully..and were stuck on forum full.pf posters who act like they are GMs or coaches who have something to hide..that or they are pretty cluless.

Hey man, if you feel like you are "stuck on a forum" by all means go find a Laker forum to post on since that is your favorite team. I think it's pretty clear that nobody wants you here anyways. Please, don't hesitate to leave.

[YGWHI]

We had NO timeouts left. Pop could not draw up another play. This move was really dirty by the time keepers. Close to kings 2002 dirty.

Alternative option...if we can't do it...we'll do this... Not sure what was the alternative play there.

[Cloud786]

If anyone can figure out how to close out games by the regular season's end, it is these San Antonio Spurs. Extremely high BBIQ on this roster.
If/when Green gets back on track, everything will change for the better on the offensive end.

Sure, it is painful to watch at times, but, they will very likely figure it out. Rodeo road trip it should start to click more and then playoffs should display a great team.
That's my plan, anyway.

I hate when ppl say we have an extremely high bb iq or that "the spurs don't beat themselves". That is the biggest bs I've ever heard. Maybe 2 or 3 years ago that might've been true but these past two years the reason we lose is cuz we make some boneheaded plays that cost us games.

[DPG21920]

I hate when ppl say we have an extremely high bb iq or that "the spurs don't beat themselves". That is the biggest bs I've ever heard. Maybe 2 or 3 years ago that might've been true but these past two years the reason we lose is cuz we make some boneheaded plays that cost us games.

By "the reason we lose" are you referring to the fact the Spurs reached 3 WCF in a row, 2 finals in a row and won a le? Because there isn't much losing going on.

[Cloud786]

By "the reason we lose" are you referring to the fact the Spurs reached 3 WCF in a row, 2 finals in a row and won a le? Because there isn't much losing going on.

I was referring to the past year or so. There have been too many instances where we only have ourselves to blame when we lose.

[Spurtacular]

It's a combo of factors, imo:

1. Warriors have ran the same fluid offense at end of games that they run all game, whereas Spurs will focus on options and become more predictable.
2. Teams have chocked down the stretch against the dubs.

[houston spurs fan]

I was referring to the past year or so. There have been too many instances where we only have ourselves to blame when we lose.

Nice recovery.

[DPG21920]

I was referring to the past year or so. There have been too many instances where we only have ourselves to blame when we lose.

The past year or so? Dude, the Spurs have won over 80% of the games they have played this year. Again, not much losing going on.

[Nathan89]

Crunch time iden y bro.

The spurs rely on Leonard in the first 3 quarters but revert to overeliance on the big 3. There has been so many possesions late in the fourth where Parker-Ginobili-Duncan were the only players to touch the ball. We are a different team in the first 8 minutes of every quarter.

The casual VANILLA will tell you its not a problem because we are winning 81% of our games but i bet you we are a net negative in the last minite execution.

The Warriors are almost flawless on O. Dont let the dumbasses fool you that its all about curry. They know their options very well. And they know the heiarchy of option Curry and draymond then then klay.

The spurs have had so many late game situations where you feel like its 2000'. Kawhi is Bowen and LMA is elson or oberto.

They need.to figure out how to take advantage of their two best players or they are stuck with this problem.

I thought you were complaining that Leonard didn't get it enough. Those complaint were just about the 4th?

[SpurPadre]

Golden state is highly overrated. Bold, underline highly. Analyze their schedule and it's been a cake walk. They seem to play Sacramento or Utah every night. Plus curry will break down soon. They are terrible at managing minutes. Curry is nothing more than a Rich man's bonner. Leonard and LeBron are truly the best in the league. Hands down. Spurs will beat them 4 games to 2.

I hate Curry more than I hate Lebron, Durant and Westbrook and even I think that statement is offensive.

[tonight...you]

I hate Curry more than I hate Lebron, Durant and Westbrook and even I think that statement is offensive.

Why do you hate Curry?

[Cloud786]

The past year or so? Dude, the Spurs have won over 80% of the games they have played this year. Again, not much losing going on.

Did I say there is much losing going on? I said "when we lose", we usually have ourselves to blame. Learn to read.

[DPG21920]

Did I say there is much losing going on? I said "when we lose", we usually have ourselves to blame. Learn to read.

You're absolutely correct.

[Kikoluna]

Well, the "generational player" is out tonight. Starting to break down.

[Kikoluna]

Well, the "generational player" is out tonight. Starting to break down.
As for me, the arrogance and the mouthpiece thing....they go hand in hand

[spurso]

We will win when we face them in the playoffs.

Bring Back Big Shot Bob to hip check Curry

[daslicer]

They have won 11 games that were close it shows that winning some of those games were fluky. That type of success they have had in those situations reminds me of the '07 Mavs when they won an abnormal amount of games they should have lost in the final minutes of the game but prevailed due to Dirk Terry,Howard hitting threes. They might get unlucky like that Mavs team did in the '07 playoffs when their jumpshots dried up against the warriors and had no other way to execute in pressure situations other than jacking up 3's. Last year not having a guy who could get easy buckets for the warriors didn't harm them but we'll see this year if it bites them in the ass come playoff time.

[spurs10]

By "the reason we lose" are you referring to the fact the Spurs reached 3 WCF in a row, 2 finals in a row and won a le? Because there isn't much losing going on.

The past year or so? Dude, the Spurs have won over 80% of the games they have played this year. Again, not much losing going on.

Right the#$% on!

[SpurPadre]

Why do you hate Curry?

He's arrogant, plain and simple. He recently declared himself the best player in the NBA. I also hate his mouthpiece shtick and how he showboats after every basket he makes. I also hate how he forces us to see his daughter in postgame interviews, which smacks of staged "cuteness".

[tonight...you]

He's arrogant, plain and simple. He recently declared himself the best player in the NBA. I also hate his mouthpiece shtick and how he showboats after every basket he makes. I also hate how he forces us to see his daughter in postgame interviews, which smacks of staged "cuteness".

No disputes from me. I guess I just don't feel "hate" towards his antics, just more annoyance and really I acknowledge that feeling being bred from his current success.
I mean- did you give him two seconds of your thoughts three years ago? Even two years ago?


No. But now he's the "greatest since MJ" and all over every sports headline every day (I engage in hyperbole).
So yeah- I understand where you're coming from. I just don't have the desire to hold as much contempt for him as you... until the playoffs start.

Then I will be killing chickens in a Louisiana bayou cemetery with Voodoo witch doctors nightly cursing that green-eyed mutant.

[SpurPadre]

No disputes from me. I guess I just don't feel "hate" towards his antics, just more annoyance and really I acknowledge that feeling being bred from his current success.
I mean- did you give him two seconds of your thoughts three years ago? Even two years ago?


No. But now he's the "greatest since MJ" and all over every sports headline every day (I engage in hyperbole).
So yeah- I understand where you're coming from. I just don't have the desire to hold as much contempt for him as you... until the playoffs start.

Then I will be killing chickens in a Louisiana bayou cemetery with Voodoo witch doctors nightly cursing that green-eyed mutant.

haha, I hear ya man.