The development of Tony Parker

[Leetonidas]

Nice thread OP. it's good to see people haven't forgotten and can still look back and appreciate TP’s career. He really was fun as to watch for a long time, especially from 2009-2013. And for all the talk about him being a hero and having a huge ego I'm glad he never decided to leave for somewhere like NY or LA where he would have gotten way more attention. Parker does have a tendency to over dribble and fall into heroish tendencies but dude loves his team and imo that's hard to deny

[Pauleta14]

If TP had Kawhis work ethic he couldve been a top 3 Spur of all time.

Since how long are you following the Spurs?

Do you realise what was Tony's skill-set when he arrived? The guy couldn't do anything at a reasonable level, neither passing, nor defending, shooting, FG%... He only had speed and was already mentaly tough.

Just have a look at the evolution of his stats through the years and you'll realise how wrong you are. The guy worked on his game and actually the level he finally reached is more impressive than any level Kawhi will ever reach.

This is not diminishing Kawhi, just that Tony's evolution is more impressive.

Also bear in mind that the guy plays for his national team in the summer, is playing at pro level since 18yo and against grown ups since 15yo(!!).

Talk about work ethic...

[bic50]

Since how long are you following the Spurs?

Do you realise what was Tony's skill-set when he arrived? The guy couldn't do anything at a reasonable level, neither passing, nor defending, shooting, FG%... He only had speed and was already mentaly tough.

Just have a look at the evolution of his stats through the years and you'll realise how wrong you are. The guy worked on his game and actually the level he finally reached is more impressive than any level Kawhi will ever reach.

This is not diminishing Kawhi, just that Tony's evolution is more impressive.

Also bear in mind that the guy plays for his national team in the summer, is playing at pro level since 18yo and against grown ups since 15yo(!!).

Talk about work ethic...

[FkLA]

The guy worked on his game and actually the level he finally reached is more impressive than any level Kawhi will ever reach.

Kawhi is already better than Enrique ever was you French homer.

[Kikoluna]

Skinny, fat, somewhat fat

[steeledl]

If TP had Kawhis work ethic he couldve been a top 3 Spur of all time.

I mean he currently is.... Kawhi will eventually pass him up if he stays healthy but right now it's duncan, Robinson, gervin or parker for 3rd.... I never saw gervin play obviously but because of the championships he is right there.

[Diego20]

[YGWHI]

The guy worked on his game and actually the level he finally reached is more impressive than any level Kawhi will ever reach.

Kawhi coming to the league shooting under .25 3FG%, now 48% #1 in the league.

Parker best scoring season 23.0 in PER , Kawhi now 27.41 He's #3 in the NBA.

Parker never hit 50-50-90 club, Kawhi did it in december. Also he's #2 in PPP on ISO's in the whole league. 1-Durant 1.15 2-Kawhi 1.12

Parker 2.3 tpg in 2013, Kawhi 1.2 He's #1 fewest turnovers by 20 points scorer in NBA history

All this...being the best perimeter defender in the league, #1 DRatg #1 DBMP perimeter player.

Impressive Kawhi's improvement from a guy who couldn't do much with the ball and shot under .25%...

Just to be clear, this is not diminishing Parker, just that Kawhi's evolution is more impressive.

[Spurs_619]

Kawhi coming to the league shooting under .25 3FG%, now 48% #1 in the league.

Parker best scoring season 23.0 in PER , Kawhi now 27.41 He's #3 in the NBA.

Parker never hit 50-50-90 club, Kawhi did it in december. Also he's #2 in PPP on ISO's in the whole league. 1-Durant 1.15 2-Kawhi 1.12

Parker fans don't like to use logic and stats.

Parker 2.3 tpg in 2013, Kawhi 1.2 He's #1 fewest turnovers by 20 points scorer in NBA history

All this...being the best perimeter defender in the league, #1 DRatg #1 DBMP perimeter player.

Impressive Kawhi's improvement from a guy who couldn't do much with the ball and shot under .25%...

Just to be clear, this is not diminishing Parker, just that Kawhi's evolution is more impressive.

[YGWHI]

Talk about work ethic...

Frenchies talking about work ethic...Is this a joke? Fat guys who only look for restaurants in Chicago...

C’est donc à chaque fois l’occasion rêvée pour aller tester un pe restaurant, refaire la vie ensemble. Nous avons nos spots préférentiels comme ce restaurant français à Chicago... mais je ne vous en dis pas plus.

http://www.goaleo.com/articles/Boris...et-tony-parker



















Kidding!! I LOVE our TWO guys, the best French Connection in the world.

Amazing Boris letter to Parker.

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2016/...es-translation

[Clipper Nation]

OP forgot to mention the development of all of Porker's backups who have outplayed him when it matters.

[SASdynasty!]

OP forgot to mention the development of all of Porker's backups who have outplayed him when it matters.

Oh yah some guys who averaged like 3 PPG but had like 8 points in a quarter a few times. Impressive.

Edit: Never mind, Claxton's best quarter in that G6 was the 4th...he had 5 points.

[bic50]

Kawhi coming to the league shooting under .25 3FG%, now 48% #1 in the league.

Parker best scoring season 23.0 in PER , Kawhi now 27.41 He's #3 in the NBA.

Parker never hit 50-50-90 club, Kawhi did it in december. Also he's #2 in PPP on ISO's in the whole league. 1-Durant 1.15 2-Kawhi 1.12

Parker 2.3 tpg in 2013, Kawhi 1.2 He's #1 fewest turnovers by 20 points scorer in NBA history

All this...being the best perimeter defender in the league, #1 DRatg #1 DBMP perimeter player.

Impressive Kawhi's improvement from a guy who couldn't do much with the ball and shot under .25%...

Just to be clear, this is not diminishing Parker, just that Kawhi's evolution is more impressive.

[Spurs_619]

Oh yah some guys who averaged like 3 PPG but had like 8 points in a quarter a few times. Impressive.

Edit: Never mind, Claxton's best quarter in that G6 was the 4th...he had 5 points.

But Claxton was the head of the snake. Ran the whole offense.

[SASdynasty!]

Kawhi coming to the league shooting under .25 3FG%, now 48% #1 in the league.

Parker best scoring season 23.0 in PER , Kawhi now 27.41 He's #3 in the NBA.

Parker never hit 50-50-90 club, Kawhi did it in december. Also he's #2 in PPP on ISO's in the whole league. 1-Durant 1.15 2-Kawhi 1.12

Parker 2.3 tpg in 2013, Kawhi 1.2 He's #1 fewest turnovers by 20 points scorer in NBA history

All this...being the best perimeter defender in the league, #1 DRatg #1 DBMP perimeter player.

Impressive Kawhi's improvement from a guy who couldn't do much with the ball and shot under .25%...

Just to be clear, this is not diminishing Parker, just that Kawhi's evolution is more impressive.

So you post Kawhi shooting 48% on 3's to show that he's almost shooting as high a percentage as Parker this season?

PPP on ISO's? Can you get any more arbitrary than that? Close, the 50-50-90 club! Oh, and turnovers...

Could you have at least come up with 6 less arbitrary metrics?

[SASdynasty!]

But Claxton was the head of the snake. Ran the whole offense.

Lol, I would be with you, except that's tough to say about a guy who averaged 12 MPG in his "signature" series, lol.

[TheGreatYacht]

System role player Kiwi fans ruining another great thread.

this thread has nothing to do with Kiwi, u h8tr

[bic50]

greattyranny being a hypocrite as usual

[Tully365]

Every thread on spurstalk devolves into the same argument...

[SupremeGuy]

Why are the french so ing insecure? GATDAMN!

[YGWHI]

Could you have at least come up with 6 less arbitrary metrics?

Those stats tell the story of how Kawhi's game has grown, how much he has improved his shot, his moves...Being one of the most efficient players in the league, having the best points-to-turnover ratio, aren't arbitraty numbers, all his stats show how well he has become with the ball in his hands, something completely unthinkable five years ago.

[YGWHI]

greattyranny being a hypocrite as usual

He'll will ruin every thread on ST if he keeps saying "Kawhi's system, role player" every time he posts, people reacts to his stupid things and the thread topic is getting disvirtuated.

But that's what a troll is and what trolls do, ruin everything on a board.

[bic50]

He'll will ruin every thread on ST if he keeps saying "Kawhi's system, role player" every time he posts, people reacts to his stupid things and the thread topic is getting disvirtuated.

But that's what a troll is and what trolls do, ruin everything on a board.

True. It can't stand to see Kawhi get some praise. Wants this board to hate him as much as it does.

[maverick1948]

Good takes. He never developed as a great passer though. In this system he should have double digit assists in the regular. He still makes horrible scripted passes that bail him out, but put his teammates in bad positions. He is growing in that aspect this year, but it really is long over due. He has been a sg in the pg position most of his career.

Not in this system, ball movement is so good from all players that no one will have huge assist numbers. They can on a given night but not for a full season.

[Mnky]

Not in this system, ball movement is so good from all players that no one will have huge assist numbers. They can on a given night but not for a full season.

People keep saying this. It wouldn't be a walk in the park by any means.

Maybe I'm grading Parker too high. I still believe he's pretty good. The system that emphasizes passing won't prevent a good passer from being good. It will enable him to become great.