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That finals 3? Lol. I remember he checking in and playing ty defense and losing a good part of the lead and then hitting a 3. Did more worse than any good. And we can go watch it right now for people who forget what exactly happened that finals.
I can say it because it happened. He played a limited role, he made shots, including during the Finals and we did win the ring. Sure he also got pulled out when he was being exploited on defense, but that's what good coaching and depth is all about.
This idea that he had nothing to do with the ring is stupid. He's another reason we had a deep team during the regular season and we could rest Manu for the playoffs that year, which ended up being huge.
You can hate on him all you want, but nobody is taking that LOBT away from him.
That finals 3? Lol. I remember he checking in and playing ty defense and losing a good part of the lead and then hitting a 3. Did more worse than any good. And we can go watch it right now for people who forget what exactly happened that finals.
And no one is taking that ship. Just glad we moved away from him even if he took minutes from the seasonal rotation.
It obviously isn't hurting the rotation with simmons and KA. Easily replaceable.
The Spus couldn't pay him, the point of moving on from him or not is moot. It's the same thing with Neal or even Cojo...
It's not like Ayres that was a genuine scrub and out of the league now.
The Spurs pay the players they want top keep. Marco wasn't one of them and because of that he isn't a Spur. And now he hurts the kings bench. Worst shooting guard by RPM this year.
look, he played against dallas and we had to take him out of the rotation to win, afterwards he only played in garbage time and even managed to disrupt the team in those. I don't need to hate on him, facts do that. He has a ring, but so would have tmac if we had pulled it off that year..
He averaged almost 20mpg in the Portland series. A little less against OKC, IIRC. Might've been blowouts, but he didn't give back any 20 pt lead.
TMac didn't ring nor he played any significant minutes.
Marco rangPERIOD.
He basically bailed himself out, unlike Ray Allen bailing out LeBron
Except he probably needed to hit 2 more 3s.He basically bailed himself out, unlike Ray Allen bailing out LeBron
It's all about fit. Their biggest weakness is a lack of volume three-point shooting (especially against .500 or better teams, on the road). For a team that already was one of the worst in getting to the line and in transition, volume three-point shooting was a crucial element to their explosive offense.
To illustrate the stark contrast, Belinelli has hit 48 so far this season; Anderson, Simmons and Butler have hit 15 combined. Sure, the former has shot it poorly, at .327%, but he's a career .387% shooter and he'd likely be shooting something similar on this team instead of that train wreck of one.
Even if he weren't, he has a strong enough reputation as a shooter spread over 7 seasons, that opposing coaches/defenses are going to base the way they play him more on that, than 2 months and change of him struggling.
Anderson/Simmons garner no such respect. If one makes one every 3-4 games, nobody cares. Neither is a threat to catch fire and bust a game open every once in a while.
So he is garbage at his own strength on top of his defense. Dam....
No more. Pop has definitely gone a different way. They could have picked up a lesser Marco, a no defense shooter, in J.Eddie and J.Fredette and chose to go a different way.
Simmons has been impactful offensively bc he is a strong finisher and aggressive looking for transition scoring opportunities, and he gets to the line bc he attacks the basket with some regularity. He does give other things. He's not a shooter, but he provides some scoring.
Anderson is still basically a developing player and although he can score, he's not going to be featured. In Pop's system, ideally he's a guy you run some things through, like you do with Diaw, but he's not going to be a featured player when he's so young, inexperienced and there are better options. I say that bc his game, the game the Spurs asked him to develop, includes a lot of post ups, and mid range shots (you just have to watch him in SL, to see what they asked him to work on). Offensively, he's deadly from the midrange... and I do mean deadly, has a very accurate stepback fadeaway jumper and a jump hook with a high release he can get over guys. Spotting him up is not the best use for his scoring abilities... but he's young and we don't need him to be a featured scorer, so he's currently not being fully utilized to his potential. You may say he doesn't fit the bench system, but in reality, he has potential to be a centerpiece of that system in the future. Just not right now, with all the vets still in tow and the team aiming for a championship. Pop's just letting him develop and having him focus on defense. It's not about this season, but long term.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if ultimately your rotation wing ends up being Simmons bc he fits best with the current bench and provides an offensive skill (transition scorer/drawing fouls) that the team needs, but for the future you still want to develop Anderson, which is what it seems to me Pop is doing.
I share your concern about the lack of 3 point shooting this season.
Spurs did have an option to bring in Either or pay a little for Neal, but they didn't do so.
The only bright side is that both Parker and Leonard are shooting the 3 at a high percentage. I had thought that either LMA or West would attempt to extend their range but so far I have not seen that happening.
Hoping that more 3 point shooting is in the plans.
Yeah, because barely more than 2 months, on a train wreck of a team, supersedes 7 years of evidence before that.
I don't buy that they've changed priorities, they probably just couldn't find a Belinelli replacement they liked enough and probably didn't want a third young wing.
The number one priority is winning another championship. Developing prospects, particularly second and third tier ones, is both secondary and with the way this team is run, inevitable (look no further than Marjanovic), even if they're not in the rotation.
If they don't make a move and avoid a meaningful injury, yet fail to win the championship, I guarantee it'll be because they couldn't make enough threes, specifically on the road, against the Thunder or Warriors.
They couldn't afford Neal. After the heavy lifting was complete, all they could offer was the veteran's minimum.
Parker is not a volume three-point shooter nor is he enough of a threat for defenses to concern themselves. Aldridge essentially abandoning the shot is puzzling.
The fourth wing situation could be in flux until the buyout period. I suspect they're hopeful of finding a marked upgrade on Butler, without having to sacrifice a significant asset. They can't honestly be comfortable with any of the three current options playing in the playoffs and being foul trouble or an injury away from significant minutes.
7 years of evidence said he was a defender.
Now his shot is broke.
I wonder if that is the reason why we have seen so much of Bonner garbage time.
I thought your designated shooter was going to be Butler but two things: (1) he's not shooting the 3 at a high rate, although limited play time opportunities and limited attempts; (2) Bonner dressing over Butler.
Yeah and a knockdown shooter, which was clearly what I was referring to. Learn to read, genius.7 years of evidence said he was a defender.
Now his shot is broke.
Thing is, his defense doesn't make up for his spot shooting. Never has been. Spurs thought so too.
What you say makes sense in theory, but that is it theory.
We are winning in historic fashion, with a historic point differential, and had the best December in franchise history.
In theory we should not be curbstomping teams according to you, in reality we have made a lot of teams look like garbage.
I do wish we had an extra 3 pt shooter in the Steve Kerr mold, doesn't need to play regularly but he's ready to shoot a clutch 3 if you need him, but we already have Mills/Manu/Danny/Kawhi (at a superlative rate). These four are supplemented by occassional 3s by low volume shooters who have a good enough % in Diaw and Tony, and then the other wings (Anderson and Simmons) who will occasionally shoot a 3.
The truth is we are winning on defense quite honestly. The bulk of the scoring in this team is on the stars (Kawhi/LMA/Tony) and there is less reliance on the shooters, like there was previously.
You forgot to include Boban! ;-)
Man i've been running the same argument with Bonner for years, and the dude just manages to stick aroundThing is, his defense doesn't make up for his spot shooting. Never has been. Spurs thought so too.
He sold his soul to stay on the Spurs bench forever. Something about Spurs biggest fan or something.Man i've been running the same argument with Bonner for years, and the dude just manages to stick around
I think Butler was signed to mentor Fathead/Simmons & play emergency minutes in the regular season ala Juwan Howard (& now Haslem) rather than actually playing meaningful minutes. Bonner is on the roster since his corporate knowledge was needed (practice/situational plays) b/c of the new comers on the frontline
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