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    Is that what your less leftist pundits tell you to believe?
    it's not like you to defend Sharia. did Fiorina and Carson give you your marching orders?

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    it's not like you to defend Sharia. did Fiorina and Carson give you your marching orders?
    You know, I once thought you had good, well thought out post.

    What happened to you?

    What mind numbing drug are yo on?

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    did the prosecuting judges cite Sharia law and do you defend their judgment?

    why or why not?

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    did the prosecuting judges cite Sharia law and do you defend their judgment?

    why or why not?
    I don't remember what law was cites, Sharia or otherwise. The fact remains, they were legally tried and executed by the Saudi laws. Those executed I bet were not ignorant of the law.

    Using our ideals of fairness, is why the middle east is in such bad shape. Believing like you do is why there are so many deaths over there, because we interfere without understand what the aftermath of our actions are.

    Their society comes from a very brutal history. Brutality of their leaders is what keep the greater peace over there instead of the anarchy of other brutal killers, or those inciting the murderers to act. When we remove leaders in the name of human rights, look at how much worse it gets when the laws one enforced, no longer are.

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    executing people for political speech is halal in your book?

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    executing people for political speech is halal in your book?
    Inciting riot over there causes the extremists to act. It is illegal, and has harsh punishment. The people there know it.

    I don't agree with their laws, but I try to understand and respect them.

    When in Rome, do as the Romans do.

    Liberals are so guilty of so many deaths worldwide, with their authoritarian approach to spreading their version of freedom.

    In the case of the ME, ignorance will get you killed!

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    WC foursquare behind Saudi enforcers.

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    WC foursquare behind Saudi enforcers.
    his obsequiousness to 'rule of law' when he sees fit is disturbing when you see its echoes throughout history's greatest tragedies. he is the type to follow orders unquestioningly.

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    bows to state power, whatever it is, wherever it is.

    authoritarianism is a nuts .

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    bows to state power, whatever it is, wherever it is.

    authoritarianism is a nuts .
    LOL...

    Are you trying to bait me with your idiotic assumptions?

    There are so many forces in this would that I recognize I have no control over. However, I have the choice not to go there.

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    LOL...

    Are you trying to bait me with your idiotic assumptions?

    There are so many forces in this would that I recognize I have no control over. However, I have the choice not to go there.
    I agree with wine and see exactly the dynamic he is talking about. It's common in people to put their trust in those they deem more intelligent or otherwise capable. You would be one of those at countless trials talking about how you were just following orders. You are a follower of the worst sort.

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    LOL...

    Are you trying to bait me with your idiotic assumptions?

    There are so many forces in this would that I recognize I have no control over. However, I have the choice not to go there.

    WC, I'm pretty open minded on the board, but you need to bail - or go back and read your own posts/logic. WineHole is pretty accurate as to what your position appears to be. Bad acts by state actors ought to be condemned; sovereignty be damned.

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    I agree with wine and see exactly the dynamic he is talking about. It's common in people to put their trust in those they deem more intelligent or otherwise capable. You would be one of those at countless trials talking about how you were just following orders. You are a follower of the worst sort.
    I'm not a follower of anyone. I simply apply common sense to what is known in this case.

    What is you solution to change the Arab and Persian cultures?

    Decades ago, we were active in the region, and they were western allies. The leasers were helping to mover their culture to more western ways. The leaders were very oppressive of those wanting to force change back to fundamental ways. carter not only allowed, but helped regime change in Iran and Iraq, for the same claim Hillary and Obama use today. Ever since we involved ourselves trying to impose our principles on them, we made things worse. And we keep repeating the same stupid mistakes over and over.

    Why didn't Obomba learn from the past?

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    WC, I'm pretty open minded on the board, but you need to bail - or go back and read your own posts/logic. WineHole is pretty accurate as to what your position appears to be. Bad acts by state actors ought to be condemned; sovereignty be damned.
    Condemning them is one thing. Ousting leaders and getting worse than what you started with is stupidity.

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    I'm not a follower of anyone. I simply apply common sense to what is known in this case.

    What is you solution to change the Arab and Persian cultures?

    Decades ago, we were active in the region, and they were western allies. The leasers were helping to mover their culture to more western ways. The leaders were very oppressive of those wanting to force change back to fundamental ways. carter not only allowed, but helped regime change in Iran and Iraq, for the same claim Hillary and Obama use today. Ever since we involved ourselves trying to impose our principles on them, we made things worse. And we keep repeating the same stupid mistakes over and over.

    Why didn't Obomba learn from the past?
    The way you interpret the world is meaningless to me. You follow people all the time and it is quite clear and somewhat comical. That you don't realize it just points out your trolling or really really stupid.

    My solution is rejection of all Hadith like their own prophet told them to. Rejection of all dogmatic word of god writings is what I want but rejection of Hadith would undermine the jihadi and sharia theology.

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    The way you interpret the world is meaningless to me.
    With you low IQ, that doesn't surprise me.

    You can't mount an effective argument if you don't know what you are arguing against, so why do you try?

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    mysterious cobra

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    one thing about WC-- he's open and disclosing -- not everyone is.

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    Thread.

    Saudi Barbaria executes 37 people on "terrorism" charges, mostly for peaceful protest, social media posts uncomplimentary to the KSA and being Shia.


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    Trash is drooling over how his SA buddies shut down, murder dissenters.

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