That's always a given. If we're not healthy or our best players are not playing well, we probably won't make it. But, there's no reason right now to think that won't be the case.
Again I disagree, if Green is back to an average level it would smooth up some hiccups that always happen during a PO run... with Green back you increase your chances of winning of course
then of course if Kawhi is out for the season then it indeed does not matter
ok guys I surrender, the fact Green plays good or bad does not matter... we could actually play with a D leaguer at SG position and we would be fine... I'm convinced
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I disagree, if by PT he is still going 2-9 in most games while 90% of those shoots being open and with 3 turnovers a game, he becomes unplayable, and our system will fail at some point because he is needed for his defense.
On the other hand if green can shoot .420 from 2 and .370 from 3 we might be fine.
There have been times that I thought he tried to make a player into something he wasn't ever meant to be. They were fine in their niche, and when they got pushed beyond that, their games went to . Bonner is a good example, I think. Malik Rose. Maybe Green this year. There have been others, I just don't feel like trying to dredge up the names.
I've also wondered if he's factoring salary into it. The guy gets so good at his role that other teams want them. The spurs don't want to lose that role, nor the corporate knowledge, so they are compelled to pay more than they might wan to. I think Pop sometimes says, "If the guy is going to get paid that much, he needs to do more than just x and y. Maybe that's not right, but it explains what I've seen happen, so I'm going with it.
Wow, worst take ever. You obviously don't know anything about basketball, and should not be posting here. You didn't even mention that Porker is fat.
Given Pop's history with first-year guys, and the way he seems to be approaching Boban, I would be surprised if he saw more than token minutes in the playoffs.
The way he's using Simmons makes me wonder if he might be one of the rare exceptions. Partly because Pop obviously saw something in him, and partly because he brings something that no one else on the roster brings. (And they need.)
In his rookie season, Danny Green got about 12 minutes per game in the regular season. But in the playoffs, he averaged 2 minutes per, and only played in 4 of the 6 games. Admittedly, it was a short playoff run, but Pop clearly didn't see Danny as playoff worthy that first year. George Hill, on the other hand, played 16 mpg in the regular season, and would have played less if Parker hadn't been injured. But Pop actually played him more minutes after the first couple of playoff games.
I know there is more to those stories, but my point is that if Simmons continues to develop, I wouldn't be surprised if he sees 12-15 mpg in the playoffs.
As for the trade market? This is looking more and more like it could be the last season for Tim and Manu. Normally I don't expect to see the Spurs make any moves in mid-season. But this has the feel of an all-or-nothing campaign. I think it would have to be a special player for there to be any real chance making Pop's playoff rotation. But I bet they'll be looking for that guy pretty hard.
I think Pop is trying to expand Danny's game and make him less one dimensional on offense. It's a noble experiment, but it just might not work. There are players like Kawhi, Steph Curry, Steve Nash, Draymond Green, etc., who can build on their games and be much different & better players in, say, Year 5 than they were in Year one or two... Bruce Bowen was a valuable player, but he was never able to expand his ballhandling & passing skills to the point where he could be dangerous in that regard. I thought two years ago that improved ballhandling skill for Mills, Kawhi, & Green was an important goal for the Spurs as Manu & Tony aged, so 2 outta 3 ain't bad.
On this same topic, one of my favorite non-Spur players to watch this year is Nick Batum with Charlotte... he's having a good year, more like Manu than Green, with great assist/rebound numbers and a respectable 37% from three. He's a free agent at the end of this season, and has lots of connections to the Spurs-- friends with Boris & Tony from the French National team, and former teammates with Aldridge & Mills... His D reminds me of Aldridge's in many ways-- he doesn't look like he's playing in an especially aggressive way, but definitely has the ability to be part of a great defensive team.
There has to be a factor with salary, and veteran status in the team, involved.
If the Danny we are seeing was a 2nd or 3rd year player, he would have been benched probably a long time ago and different guys would have tried for that starting spot.
In fact, there are guys in the team who are more suited to what Pop apparently wanted Danny to add (playmaking and ballhandling, some drives over aggressive closeouts), but Pop will not promote them bc, where does that leave your 10m a year player? Specially when he's been just as cold and TO prone with the bench?
Danny most definitely got opportunities for a larger role, and was cut more slack when he was sucking as a factor of his vet status and salary. And I think his role (as far as playmaking, ballhandling, and driving) has been scaled back. He's had a few good games since his terrible start but other than the Houston game, his shooting has been off. We are now in the Danny Green 3 pt shooting watch.
He has that Paul Pierce ultra slow release so he need to add a step-back game to prevent his shot from being blocked.
Do you think Pop will let him try step back 3s like Manu?
Of course not.
Even the step back midrange is only taken in bail out shot clock situations.
I get the impression he can get his own shots on his own when he wanted, but that is not system like.
Oh I do remember in Summer League how many announcers remarked that he did remind them of Pierce.
Hmmm.... I wouldn't mind making the trade Danny Green for Batum. That's one I can endorse!
Not the sole reason, but the margin for error against a team as explosive as the Warriors, particularly on the road, is so slim, that the Spurs could be limiting them, only to hit a 2-3 minute stretch where Curry and to a lesser extent Thompson, hit a few high degree difficulty threes and have the game be over.
If the Spurs could add one more volume three-point shooting wing, that's good enough to be a rotation player on a contender, they'd be the clear best team in the league.
I share that nagging feeling that Spurs are short one more 3 point shooter. I have my doubts that Simmons or Anderson can develop that game quick enough come playoff time. Maybe that other 3 point shooter is Tony Parker... he's hitting it at a good clip lately.
in fact I think we quite agree actually
He took a 3 on Monday that was so bad, it looked like he was trying to bank it.
Danny can play good even if his shots aren't falling. If we play the Warriors/Thunder, Danny does a great job on Curry/Westbrook, doesn't let them have 20, and he goes 0-4 3's ...we'll win the game.
I know, the blue font should tell me something but...
I agree with the contention that the margin is smaller. But I'd like to see what kind of defensive work we do on the Warriors... I have no expectations of shutting down Curry, but I want to see how much we can reduce everyone else's impact.
IMO, a series against them would be more of a defensive grind than an offensive showdown. At least, I think that's how the Spurs would rather play them.
That's the french in you speaking, tbh...
If he develops the shot & prove he can hit it consistently in practice then Pop is going to give him the green light. Danny/Patty have the green light to pull up on fast-breaks b/c they have proven that they can hit it. Fathead doesn't necessarily need to jack up 3s but if he can develop a step-back then his slow release wouldn't be much of an issue. Wes Matthews basically shoots step-backs 50% of the time.
Danny green is no bruce bowen.
Well everyobe said give him until february soo one more month right?
Good point.
He does have a very Dirk-like step back. I hope he's working on that shot. If he develops a nice 3 ball, he would remind me more of Batum, than Boris. The reason he reminds me more of Boris is precisely taht like Boris he likes the midrange, doesn't like the 3 much, would rather drive on close outs and per Pop's has developed a post up game we haven't seen much, but its there. Batum is much more perimeter based, with his 3 pt shots, but still a very good passer, and although more athletic, he also relies on his craftiness and not athleticism to make plays.
I would be very happy with Kyle shooting more 3s, that would really make him a versatile player. At that point, I don't think we want to trade him either.
Streaky shooters are streaky, tbh
Lol what i just countered your post are u dumb. Im one of th people who believes that we need a agood green to win but youre saying as if we can win without a healthy team and youre doubting kawhi? I expect more optimism from a poster who thought parker is top 25 player this season
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