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Just guessing, but how about just signed the big contract, pressing, trying to hard to live up to the contract.
Spurs have now played 36 games and Danny still cannot get his together... what's up with him is a mystery tbh
On all metrics you can find he is taking a massive hit compared to last year or even previous years... shooting is down, PER is down, rebounding, steals, blocks, assists, ppg, per 36, per 100 everything is south...
and one cannot find any explanation especially for his shooting
- LMA presence ? nope... he is shooting slightly better when LMA is off the court but this is not significant, his other metrics don't see a big change neither
- Age ? nope... dude is 28
- Shots are more contested ? nope... no major difference compared to last year, he is as open as last year, defenders are not closer
- Shots are taken from different spots ? nope.... corner, top of the key... % are similar than last year
- Shooting mechanics ? nope... his shots are not more flat, he is not rushing them either
- He is putting more ball on the floor ? that's true but this is not influencing his shot... his assisted % 3 points attempts is comparable to last year
- He is not in a ryhtm because less touches ? not really... his usage is 15% vs. 17%. He has less FGAs than last year tho but very comparable to his FGAs of the year before when he was already extremely valuable...
- As he is dribbling more, he has more TOVs ? nope... same TOV per game
And we even did not start on how those elements could influence his rebounding, blocks, assists...
- He became fat like Parker or LMA beginning of the season ? nope...
Only stuff I could see looking at numbers is he is playing the less minutes at SF spot of his career 18% only vs. 30-40% previous 3 years... but again I don't see any evident root causes there.
Other explanations:
- It is just a long cold Danny period as it happens for every shooter... this is one is just longer... maybe a silver lining there with remaining games with 3 pts shooting at +.500 to come back at a season .400... one can dream, I don't buy it
- Dude signed his contract and now don't give a anymore like many other nba players before him.... well it does not seem to fit with his personality, he clearly loves this team and his team mate but who knows
- Dude has personnal issues we don't know about ? possibly
- It is just a confidence issue ? what to do then ? sending him to Austin ? Let him play with second unit ? Ask Pop to massage him ? Give him a two weeks break to work by himself with Chip ?
Last edited by Brazil; 01-05-2016 at 11:33 AM.
Just guessing, but how about just signed the big contract, pressing, trying to hard to live up to the contract.
it can be added to the list yes... it's a possibility... the "I want to do too good syndrom" materializing by feeling pressure etc... in that case nevertheless, you would imagine, there would be stuff we could observe like rushing shots (it does not seem to be the case, he does not take more shots in early shot clock than before) or taking more shots off the drible vs. catch and shoot (but nope...)
Also, it's a good rationale for a short serie of games... but 36 ?
not saying this is not that tho just pointing out some counter arguments
I expected him to struggle in Milwaukee against that length and without Parker. So far, I think it's partially a focus thing. His best recent games have been against the Clips and the Rockets, both of which were revenge games. I don't think it's a coincidence that he stepped up when it seems like he has an emotional investment in the victory. That bodes well for the stretch-run, but it's not good form. Something is sapping his focus currently, and that something needs to be resolved.
I remember one of the Finals games (I think game 3) against the Heat where everyone of Danny's shots off the dribble were going in and JVG remarked, I never knew he had that in his game. That's the Danny the Spurs want and are trying to develop. I just think sometimes Danny over thinks it and the Spurs are trying too hard to develop it. Just let Danny be the best "3 and D" player he can be, and if he feels comfortable taking someone off the dribble occasionally so be it.
Last edited by Old School 44; 01-05-2016 at 11:50 AM.
thing is he is not taking more off the drible shots this year than previous years if I'm not mistaken... we have seen him putting more the ball on the floor and trying to drive, that's true but does not explain the 3 pts FG% decrease because he is does not take more contested or more off the drible shots...
It is indeed obviously mental... that's too long of a bad stretch to be simply bad luck or stat average convergence
There is, I agree, something but what this something is, is a freaking mystery tbh... personnal issues ? some lagging injuries we did not hear of ?
There's no metric for "thinking about taking someone off the dribble". I think his issue is more in his head than anything else.
Could just be Borisitis. Danny will only play well when he has to. It's obviously something he needs to snap out of, but just like with Boris, it's not easy to see how to do so.
Dangle green is a wet fart
Its funny how Danny shots better % from the three point line (maybe)out of perimeter passes. Ive always thoughts inside to outside passes be it by post or drives are better passes for shooters since it aligns their shooting form better than perimeter (side) passes.
Id have to look at the stats first but just from watching him hes much more comfortabe taking threes when the ball is passed sidewards. Thats weird considering gis form.
Trying to live up to his contract. Danny is very fragile between the ears.
The contract was a good price but relative to the team, he is making a ton.
Maybe he has some injury he isn't telling the Spurs because the injury isn't painful enough or he developed muscle in an area over the summer that is hurting his shooting motion. It wouldn't take much in a shoulder to change his mechanics. Patty is just now starting to look like pre-surgery Patty. It has to be his shooting motion.
The only other problem I can think of is the yips:
Except Boris has that in him since forever... it amplifies or not over time but it is not sponteanously created. I have a hard time to believe Danny developped that non chalance suddenly
not sure you will find that metric
at the same time they are monitoring everything so maybe it exists somethingI did not see anything like that yet tho
yes but if you over think your shot, it can be measured by release time, when shot is taken on the shot clock or % of catch and shoot... there is nothing that indicate that
What I mean he is not forcing his shots more than usual
He's a slacker... people from his generation are generally slackers. Look at LMA who is near his age, also a slacker.
The reason Danny went off against the Rockets was because Beverly elbowed him in the mouth. Now it was really personal.
Danny will be fine come playoff time when it really counts. That's usually when he does wake up.
His mechanics have been off at times. I made a thread couple weeks ago about it. I think the chemistry issues early on hurt him and he was taking weird high jumping/body leaning 3's. I think he's going to be fine just needs to settle down and let the game come to him and get up as many shots in practice as he can
I've seen him rush a lot of threes this season, tbh. It's almost as if he feels like he has to throw it up at the slightest of looks. He should relax and just take the really good looks.
One dimensional player tbh. Everyone knows Danny can shoot the three now, so they guard him well. If he can learn to penetrate effectively a la Simmons, he'll become way more deadly.
true because last year they did not know that
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Yeah, but Danny has been paid and has a ring. Honestly, he could retire now and have an enviable career. I think the most important thing is that he seems to step up when his pride is hurt. In addition to the revenge games, he also played better after Pop got him on national television. It may really do the trick to bench Green and make him beat out Simmons for the starting job. With the way Jonathon is playing right now, it's not a formality that Danny gets his job back. That will either snap him out of this or allow the team to face not being able to use Green now rather than in the playoffs. They'll know if they have to make a trade or beg a buyout candidate.
If other teams feel they need to keep a guy on him on the perimeter, his job is done... we've plenty of firepower in the starting lineup somewhere else.
I agree here, motivation doesn't come automatically for Danny. Very different from Kawhi who is a gym rat and is obsessive about basketball.
Boris Diaw tends to take it easy because he's extremely smart and that's what smart people have the tendency of doing.
I tend to give Green the benefit of the doubt because of his uncanny defensive capabilities. I also don't expect him to make a good play when he puts the ball on the floor. He isn't than nimble a player. Anyway, you are right, when his pride is hurt or when he knows that he needs to deliver or his team will sink, that's when he wakes up to the occasion. Otherwise, he tends to coast most of the time.
I'm a big fan of Simmons, but I don't think he should be taking Green's spot. Green is just a superior defender.
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