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    Why do the Spurs have to adapt to those gots? let them try that midget lineup

    Lamarcus ain't Tristan Thompson, Green ain't JR Swisher, and Duncan ain't Mozgov...

    Deeznuts Green got torched by 'Moose' Monroe. I'm tired of hearing about this bum and how he can guard players with actual skill sets lmao.

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    Spurs in 6. MVParker will give torch Steph and then he'll give his wife another baby afterwards, per par.

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    warriors won't play smallball against us, they are not this dumb.

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    The Cavs won 2 games in the Finals & lost one game in OT w/ an injured Iman Shumpert starting, if he plays to his abilities Simmons is better than that version of Shumpert. JR Smith was also the other starter & he wasn't better than the CURRENT version of Danny in the Finals (just on offense). The issue might be Tony not being able to play defense like Delly.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...-warriors.html

    As long as Kawhi dominates & shuts down Klay as he usually does against the Warriors, all will be fine.
    You have a good point on Simmons specially.
    2 3s tonight. He's showing he has the stroke. Dude is hungry.
    The problem is TO and fouling, but in lineups when you don't channel stuff through him (we really shouldn't at this point, Pops doing that during development time my guess), he should just slash and do his thing. He will be fine. The fouling situation is him requiring experience. He does get some phantom calls, but he's so athletic and bouncy that guys do flop when they see him coming. I think he will be fine. After this past game (specially the 3 pt shooting) I am convinced.

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    IMO it is not how we adjust to small ball lineups but how they can adjust to handle our bigs inside. 2 6'11 and 2 6'9 who are being to play well together. Can Green at 6'7 stop any of those 4 for a full 7 games? Duncan schools Bogat every time they met. LMA is going to show Green the experience he has at blocking out on the boards. West has the savvy to handle Green. Diaw is going to get his against anybody. And I forgot 1 other player. FREE BOBAN. 7'3 will reach over him for rebounds. It's great when you can effect your opponent's game, but Green won't make anybody in the Spur front court adjust. They will make the Warriors adjust.
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    I had not thought about that factor. WE have bodies to keep throwing at him too. His run/gun style will leave him exhausted too. Its possible he doesn't have the legs to make 3s. I remember in the finals he went dry from 3, as did a few other guys.

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    What worries me is having to get through OKC the round before...I don't think it's a given that we win against them, and if we do, it'll likely be a tough series that drains the team a good amount.

    As for looking at the GS/SA matchup strictly in a vacuum, I think we match up with them better than any other team. I disagree with the idea that they're a "gimmicky" team (all they can do is shoot 3s, they don't play D, etc.), but I think our chances are good enough (as good as you can ask for considering how good GS is) given how the Spurs are starting to look. LMA is a good matchup against Draymond IMO - I don't think he's so slow that Draymond will blow past him, and he's big enough to exploit Green on the boards and in the post. Diaw is also another player who matches up well with their small ball and could very well be one of our most important players in a potential series.

    I just hope Pop doesn't try forcing Duncan in situations. I love Timmy and I have no doubts he'll still be a big piece of this team in the playoffs, but I really don't think he should be playing much in a series against GS. I get that people think we should try forcing them to play big...but I really don't think that's the right solution, at least not with a Tim/LMA frontcourt. If the Spurs want to use their size as an advantage, go with Diaw/Aldridge. That's still a noticeable size advantage over GS's smallball duo of Barnes/Green, and it doesn't sacrifice too much spacing or mobility.

    I also hope Pop doesn't stick with Parker if things start going south and it's looking like Parker is going to be 2015 Parker.

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    IMO it is not how we adjust to small ball lineups but how they can adjust to handle our bigs inside. 2 6'11 and 2 6'9 who are being to play well together. Can Green at 6'7 stop any of those 4 for a full 7 games? Duncan schools Bogat every time they met. LMA is going to show Green the experience he has at blocking out on the boards. West has the savvy to handle Green. Diaw is going to get his against anybody. And I forgot 1 other player. FREE BOBAN. 7'3 will reach over him for rebounds. It's great when you can effect your opponent's game, but Green won't make anybody in the Spur front court adjust. They will make the Warriors adjust.
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    It pretty clear Pop isn't trying to beat them by defense but pound them inside. The strategy is to run them off the 3 point line & have the big sag off to protect the rim but Draymond/Curry can shoot as many mid range shots as they want ala Blake/CP3. The Clippers give the Spurs a hard time b/c Blake has become an automatic mid-range shoot but that isn't Draymond's game.

    Basically, it's a mix of the strategy the Grizzlies used on offense before they started playing 4-on-5 when the Warriors stop guarding Tony Allen & one defense what the Cavs tried in the Finals before Delly got dehydrated plus Shumpert started falling apart physically.

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    What worries me is having to get through OKC the round before...I don't think it's a given that we win against them, and if we do, it'll likely be a tough series that drains the team a good amount.
    OKC's defense is terrible & Kawhi can neutralize Durant. Ibaka can't camp in the paint anymore b/c of LMA/West & Pop can go to Boban if Kanter is mauling Diaw. I won't take them seriously until they get someone better than freaking Andre Roberson to be their starting wingplayer.

    It's the Clippers the Spurs should avoid since Pierce is actually showing signs of life & Austin Rivers is actually much improve so he would feast on Patty.

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    OKC's defense is terrible & Kawhi can neutralize Durant. Ibaka can't camp in the paint anymore b/c of LMA/West & Pop can go to Boban if Kanter is mauling Diaw. I won't take them seriously until they get someone better than freaking Andre Roberson to be their starting wingplayer.

    It's the Clippers the Spurs should avoid since Pierce is actually showing signs of life & Austin Rivers is actually much improve so he would feast on Patty.
    This. Though the Clippers wouldn't be such a scary 2nd round matchup because Paul and Blake will be gassed per usual carrying the scrubs on their team.

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    Spurs in 6. MVParker will give torch Steph and then he'll give his wife another baby afterwards, per par.
    Spurs winning 6 and the world finding out that Parker cucked curry on and off the court will be the greatest thing ever.

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    Draymond is only a concern of mine if he can maintain hitting a high percentage of 3's with the pressure of the playoffs and with all the work he's going to have to do on defense. I'm thinking he won't be able to.

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    I would love to see the GSW even dare to play Dray @ 5 and Barnes @ 4 against the Spurs. Diaw would destroy Barnes.

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    Op: Thanks for your summary. Podcasts are really not my favorite media as I prefer either video or reading, so I appreciate your summary very much.

    It will be interesting to see Pop's strategies against them. I do think we will need Tony healthy and he will be a factor, more so this year because we do not have Cory Joseph and so far, Ray has not earned Pop's trust and he does not look to be a defender and hustle guy of the caliber of CoJo (and Pop didn't even play CoJo much in the playoffs).

    Manu will not be run ragged with the starters and the second unit depends on his chemistry.

    I suspect Simmons will play (although a rookie, he has been a huge positive factor in games), but the fact he's not a shooter limits his possibilities in half court sets, and if he plays I expect his role is limited, not a guy you want handling the ball under pressure, at least not yet.

    It will be huge for us if Danny Green gets in a rhythm.

    Draymond Green is going to meet up with Boris Diaw and that may be the key matchup. I also see a dose of LMA/Green.

    All in all, I like our chances, but we do need the best version of Tony that we have seen this season.
    That's why I keep emphasizing the importance of developing Jonathon Simmons ever since the beginning of the season. I don't think the size of Mills or Parker is going to cut it against GSW small ball lineup.

    I think Simmons is developing rapidly, I just hope that Anderson is also ready come playoff time. Lately, his shooting percentages have been sky high.

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    It pretty clear Pop isn't trying to beat them by defense but pound them inside. The strategy is to run them off the 3 point line & have the big sag off to protect the rim but Draymond/Curry can shoot as many mid range shots as they want ala Blake/CP3. The Clippers give the Spurs a hard time b/c Blake has become an automatic mid-range shoot but that isn't Draymond's game.

    Basically, it's a mix of the strategy the Grizzlies used on offense before they started playing 4-on-5 when the Warriors stop guarding Tony Allen & one defense what the Cavs tried in the Finals before Delly got dehydrated plus Shumpert started falling apart physically.
    The Cavs seem to know how to play the GSW into a low scoring affair. I haven't watched enough to figure out what they do, but they seem to be able to do it.

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    The Cavs seem to know how to play the GSW into a low scoring affair. I haven't watched enough to figure out what they do, but they seem to be able to do it.
    They force Draymond to be a scorer (although they run him off the 3 point line) & refuse to leave Curry/Klay open even it means switching a point guard onto a center.

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    What worries me is having to get through OKC the round before...I don't think it's a given that we win against them, and if we do, it'll likely be a tough series that drains the team a good amount.

    As for looking at the GS/SA matchup strictly in a vacuum, I think we match up with them better than any other team. I disagree with the idea that they're a "gimmicky" team (all they can do is shoot 3s, they don't play D, etc.), but I think our chances are good enough (as good as you can ask for considering how good GS is) given how the Spurs are starting to look. LMA is a good matchup against Draymond IMO - I don't think he's so slow that Draymond will blow past him, and he's big enough to exploit Green on the boards and in the post. Diaw is also another player who matches up well with their small ball and could very well be one of our most important players in a potential series.

    I just hope Pop doesn't try forcing Duncan in situations. I love Timmy and I have no doubts he'll still be a big piece of this team in the playoffs, but I really don't think he should be playing much in a series against GS. I get that people think we should try forcing them to play big...but I really don't think that's the right solution, at least not with a Tim/LMA frontcourt. If the Spurs want to use their size as an advantage, go with Diaw/Aldridge. That's still a noticeable size advantage over GS's smallball duo of Barnes/Green, and it doesn't sacrifice too much spacing or mobility.

    I also hope Pop doesn't stick with Parker if things start going south and it's looking like Parker is going to be 2015 Parker.
    That's exactly what I was thinking. One of the beat writers said this last month. If the Spurs end up with the 2 seed, they will definitely meet either OKC or the Clippers before they ever face the Warriors. It's a battle of attrition. Warriors will have HCA and will probably face the Rockets, Jazz or Grizzlies again so their path will be less stressful that's for sure. But that's the advantage of HCA.

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    If we keep playing the way we are and simply split with the Dubs, then we have to win one game and they have to lose one game for us to tie. It's entirely possible we are going to be in the hunt for the 1 seed. So far it looks like the 2 seed , but its only 37 games.

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    Warriors need to be more concerned with how their small lineup is going to defend Aldridge/Diaw/Leonard because they will get murdered by the Spurs if they try to go big, imo

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    I would love to see the GSW even dare to play Dray @ 5 and Barnes @ 4 against the Spurs. Diaw would destroy Barnes.
    Diaw destroys Draymond. People don't know this. As good as Draymond is a defending bigs, he cannot guard Diaw. If you could go back and watch last season games against the warriors, you will see the warriors were forced to double Diaw. And we all know, you cant double Diaw. That is what I am noticing more this season - teams are not doubling Diaw because he just makes the right pass.

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    bench wise what would be the rotations against theirs?

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    I don't understand how they can postulate that the Warriors' smallball lineup will give the Spurs fits when it is widely recognized throughout the NBA that it is precisely the Spurs' twin towers frontcourt that is best equipped to handle that.

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    I don't understand how they can postulate that the Warriors' smallball lineup will give the Spurs fits when it is widely recognized throughout the NBA that it is precisely the Spurs' twin towers frontcourt that is best equipped to handle that.
    Warriors small ball will kill the Spurs when we play our Twin Towers ... TD and LMA cannot offset 5 guys shooting threes

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    Warriors small ball will kill the Spurs when we play our Twin Towers ... TD and LMA cannot offset 5 guys shooting threes
    LMA has enough length and mobility to guard quicker players out on the perimeter while TD anchors the defense in the middle. And on the opposite end, the Dubs will get demolished on the boards and in the post.

    The best way to counter the Warriors' small ball is to punish their smalls by playing our bigs. That's why the Spurs have chosen to counteract the league trend of teams getting smaller by getting even bigger.

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    LMA has enough length and mobility to guard quicker players out on the perimeter while TD anchors the defense in the middle. And on the opposite end, the Dubs will get demolished on the boards and in the post.

    The best way to counter the Warriors' small ball is to punish their smalls by playing our bigs. That's why the Spurs have chosen to counteract the league trend of teams getting smaller by getting even bigger.
    Well, two different opinions ... I think we have more of a chance with Diaw instead of TD or LMA ... with Kawhi in there this is still a big lineup, but more versatile to deal with the Dubs

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    Diaw destroys Draymond. People don't know this. As good as Draymond is a defending bigs, he cannot guard Diaw. If you could go back and watch last season games against the warriors, you will see the warriors were forced to double Diaw. And we all know, you cant double Diaw. That is what I am noticing more this season - teams are not doubling Diaw because he just makes the right pass.
    I don't remember how Diaw did when defended against Draymond but I do know that Diaw gives them issues. I'm curious to see how the Warriors plan on defending the Spurs. If they go small ball Pop can bring in Diaw, if they try to go with Bogut and Dray we can counter with either LMA and TD or LMA and DWest then who defends Diaw when he comes in? Barnes would get abused.

    For the Spurs it comes down to where do we hide Parker. I kind of hope the Warriors start Iggy to try and contain Kawhi because I would rather the Warriors try and exploit Iggy on Parker vs Barnes on Parker.

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