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    Firearms related injuries and deaths are a statistically significant public health problem in the US, not strictly related to crime. Administrative remedies to this are good government.

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    [QUOTE=TheSanityAnnex;8355942]

    http://www.cnn.com/partners/ios/pages/poll/



    Poll: Americans supportive but skeptical on Obama's gun action


    The American public is broadly supportive of the executive actions issued by President Barack Obama this week aimed at increasing the reach of federal background checks for gun purchases and improving enforcement of existing laws.

    However, less than half say that these changes will be effective at reducing gun-related deaths, and most say they oppose the way Obama made these changes.

    A new CNN/ORC poll finds

    67% say they favor the changes Obama announced, and

    32% oppose them.

    Support for the executive actions, designed to expand background checks to cover more gun purchases made online or at gun shows and to make it easier for the FBI to complete background checks efficiently, comes across party lines, with

    majorities of Democrats (85%),
    independents (65%) and
    Republicans (51%) in favor of them.

    Majorities back the measures across most demographic groups, in fact, including

    57% of gun owners and
    56% of rural residents.


    Those who strongly favor the changes outnumber those who are strongly opposed by about a 2-to-1 margin: 43% say they are strongly in favor, 21% strongly opposed.


    Support for the measures lags a bit behind the level of support most polling finds for expanded background checks generally. A Quinnipiac University poll in December found that 89% of Americans favored "a law requiring background checks on people buying guns at gun shows or online."

    The changes announced by the President do not go that far, however, narrowing what has been called "the gun-show loophole" without closing it entirely.

    Skepticism about the effectiveness of the executive actions is widespread.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/07/politi...ion/index.html

    no catalog/mail order, no online gun selling AT ALL

    all gun purchases face-to-face with photo ID of purchaser and b/g check with no "timeout" if b/g check is slow.

    govt's right to regulate guns "shall not be infringed"


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    Repugs! Repug MISgovernance! Slave states!

    GOP rep: censure Obama over gun policy

    Staunch gun rights advocate Rep. Steven Palazzo (R-MS) introduced a resolution on Wednesday to “censure and condemn” President Barack Obama over his newly announced executive actions on gun control.

    “For seven years, the President has gradually expanded his powers through executive overreach,” the Mississippi lawmaker wrote in a statement published on his website. “His actions this week to take away the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens is just the latest, if not most egregious, violation of the separation of powers found in the United States Cons ution.”

    The congressman’s statement is online here, but it does not include any explanation of why Obama’s executive actions on gun policy – actions the
    NRA said do not actually do anything of significance – “take away” anyone’s cons utional rights.

    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...d=sm_fb_maddow




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    Firearms related injuries and deaths are a statistically significant public health problem in the US, not strictly related to crime. Administrative remedies to this are good government.
    OK, I get that your position is that guns are bad, but how will increasing background checks reduce suicides or gun related accidents?

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    OK, I get that your position is that guns are bad, but how will increasing background checks reduce suicides or gun related accidents?
    guns aren't bad, PEOPLE are bad. NRA sez so.

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    damn, you less gun fellators are some real dumb s

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    Wait. I can legally buy 200 guns at a gun show with just cash???

    this country is great. Where can I have links to upcoming gun shows?

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    Wait. I can legally buy 200 guns at a gun show with just cash???

    this country is great. Where can I have links to upcoming gun shows?
    Here ya go.

    http://www.saxetshows.com/

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    Obama Mocks 'Conspiracy' That He's Coming For Your Guns

    President Barack Obama mocked conspiracy theorists and tore into the National Rifle Association for pushing "imaginary fiction," as he described his plans to tighten gun control rules as modest first steps toward tackling gun violence in America.

    In a prime-time, televised town hall meeting Thursday, Obama fielded tough questions from high-profile gun control opponents and supporters alike, often answering with sympathy and without confrontation as he tried to reassure Americans there is a middle ground on a fiercely divisive issue.

    But Obama didn't hold back when asked by CNN moderator Anderson Cooper about the notion that the federal government — and Obama in particular — wants to seize all firearms as a precursor to imposing martial law. He blamed that notion on the NRA and like-minded groups that convince its members that "somebody's going to come grab your guns."


    "Yes, that is a conspiracy," Obama said. "I'm only going to be here for another year. When would I have started on this enterprise?" Obama defended his support for the cons utional right to gun ownership while arguing it was consistent with his efforts to curb mass shootings. He said the NRA refused to acknowledge the government's responsibility to make legal products safer, citing seatbelts and child-proof medicine bottles as examples.

    , Obama accused the NRA of refusing to participate in the town hall despite having its headquarters nearby.

    "Since this is a main reason they exist, you'd think that they'd be prepared to have a debate with the president," Obama said

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/ba...rol-conspiracy

    Give 'em , Barry.

    less NRA (white) chicken s didn't even show up to debate their hated n!gg@.

    whitehouse.gov should post a list of all the Congress members on the NRA/GOA/etc/gun-industry contribution list and their history of votes on all gun issues.




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    Poll: Republicans Would Rather Actually Be Shot by Gun Than Agree with Obama

    WASHINGTON — A day after President Obama held a nationally televised town hall about guns in America, a new poll shows that a majority of Republicans would rather actually be shot by a firearm than agree with him.

    In an indication of the challenges facing the President in persuading Republicans, those surveyed named a wide variety of specific guns that they would choose to be personally shot by rather than seeing eye to eye with Obama.


    When asked to state their preference, forty-three per cent stated “handgun,” twenty-seven per cent replied “shotgun,” twenty-one per cent responded “assault rifle,” while only two per cent named “agreeing with Obama.”


    The poll results are reminiscent of a poll taken last month about climate change, in which a majority of Republicans said they would rather see their habitat destroyed by rising sea levels than agree with President Obama.

    http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/poll-republicans-would-rather-actually-be-shot-by-gun-than-agree-with-obama?mbid=nl_010816%20Borowitz%20Newsletter%20(1) &CNDID=16733151&spMailingID=8413645&spUserID=MjczN zc0Njk0NDAS1&spJobID=840874667&spReportId=ODQwODc0 NjY3S0

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    Firearms related injuries and deaths are a statistically significant public health problem in the US, not strictly related to crime. Administrative remedies to this are good government.
    I see you argument and how they ignore it. The intellectual bravery you're up against is astounding.

    You must love CC obviously disingenuous restatement of this argument into "YOUR PUTTING GUNS ON TRIAL" NRA rhetoric.

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    Bravery for completely ducking a direct question?

    Fuzzy, you are such a tool...

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    That's just one promoter. Here's a better list for Texas.

    https://gunshowtrader.com/gunshows/texas/

    Also, the Tulsa show which might be the biggest.

    http://www.tulsaarmsshow.com/home.html

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    He doesn't give a about those kids, he just wants to bring us another step closer to confiscation.
    LOL conspiracy theorist.

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    Fox Host's Absurd Claim About Obama's Tears During Gun Speech



    Fox News host Andrea Tantaros suggested on Tuesday President Barack Obama had used a “raw onion” to produce fake tears for shooting victims during his press conference on gun violence.

    “What was really upsetting was the tears that he wiped away again and again,” Francis opined. “You want that for — I mean, we feel frighten about what’s going on with ISIS. And he can’t pull that kind of passion for anything about this.”

    http://www.alternet.org/media/fox-hosts-absurd-claim-about-obamas-tears-during-gun-speech?akid=13855.187590.b7MaTP&rd=1&src=newslette r1048519&t=16

    Fox's pig sty of dumb es as ty as Fox viewers

    As for those who believe the president manufactured tears to manipulate his audience, perhaps a few of them could be rehabilitated if they read what Joshua Dubois wrote in The President’s Devotional two years ago about Obama’s visit to Sandy Hook just two days after the slayings there left that community raw.

    I went downstairs to greet President Obama when he arrived, and I provided an overview of the situation. “Two families per classroom ... The first is ... and their child was ... The second is ... and their child was ... We’ll tell you the rest as you go.”

    The president took a deep breath and steeled himself, and went into the first classroom. And what happened next I’ll never forget.


    Person after person received an engulfing hug from our commander in chief. He’d say, “Tell me about your son. ... Tell me about your daughter,” and then hold pictures of the lost beloved as their parents described favorite foods, television shows, and the sound of their laughter.

    For the younger siblings of those who had passed away—many of them two, three, or four years old, too young to understand it all—the president would grab them and toss them, laughing, up into the air, and then hand them a box of White House M&M’s, which were always kept close at hand. In each room, I saw his eyes water, but he did not break.


    And then the entire scene would repeat—for hours. Over and over and over again, through well over a hundred relatives of the fallen, each one equally broken, wrecked by the loss.

    After each classroom, we would go back into those fluorescent hallways and walk through the names of the coming families, and then the president would dive back in, like a soldier returning to a tour of duty in a worthy but wearing war.

    We spent what felt like a lifetime in those classrooms, and every single person received the same tender treatment. The same hugs. The same looks, directly in their eyes. The same sincere offer of support and prayer.


    The staff did the preparation work, but the comfort and healing were all on President Obama. I remember worrying about the toll it was taking on him. And of course, even a president’s comfort was woefully inadequate for these families in the face of this particularly unspeakable loss. But it became some small measure of love, on a weekend when evil reigned.

    http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016...t?detail=email


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    OK, I get that your position is that guns are bad, but how will increasing background checks reduce suicides or gun related accidents?
    Makes it a little harder for people to get guns. Duh.

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    My position isn't that guns are bad. It's that they're dangerous and ought to be better regulated.

    Do you disagree that guns are dangerous?

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    Are you ok with keeping guns out of the hands of crazy people and people with rap sheets?

    Why or why not?

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    guns aren't bad, PEOPLE are bad. NRA sez so.
    people don't kill people, guns do!

    something must be wrong with all of mine

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    one of the many huge lies from the NRA/BigGun propaganda machine is to whine about THE problem is mentally ill people.

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    one of the many huge lies from the NRA/BigGun propaganda machine is to whine about THE problem is mentally ill people.
    I agree that Boo shouldn't be able to buy a gun.

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    why not?

    because he disagrees with you?

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    why shouldn't boo have the right to protect his home and his life like every other law abiding citizen?

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    merely because you dislike him?

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    don't get me wrong, I don't like him either, but I don't think he ought to be deprived of normal rights and privileges on that account.

    do you?

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