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the wolves have a good roster, too bad they have no system ....relying too much on individual talents to score
And the best number 1 pick since Lebron James.
Ive watched the wolves this year exentsively and I dont think Ive seen a more mature and Polished 18-20 year old since Lebron James.
- Hes already one of the most fundamentally sound big defensively in the whole league.
- Hes a great passer
- A much more versatile scorer than any other big in the league.
- Hes going to be an All-star in the next 3 years. And thats probably an underestimatation of how his career will end up.
the wolves have a good roster, too bad they have no system ....relying too much on individual talents to score
Need to trade lavine
he's not a fundamentally sound defensive big at all.. he also isn't shooting the threes that he was advertised . He does look very good though, not hating at him at all.
I love KAT. He was the player I was disappointed in missing out on, not Oak or even Porzingis (after we saw his potential) that being said he is not abvetter prospect than Anthony Davis imho but he is definitely better than any since Davis and inbetween LeBron and Davis ...maybe durant also should be in that convo ...
Completely agree. I called him being ROTY about 2 weeks into the season after watching him play. Okafor dominates him for whatever reason, but for the rest of the games Towns has been the much better, more mature player.
He's gonna be a beast in this league. He's a lock for a top 15 fantasy player next year if he continues this play.
If I had to choose between the three of them (Durant, Davis, Towns), I don't know what I'd do. That's a really tough call.
it really isn't, you take durant and laugh on anyone that makes a different choice.
If you are saying they are all in the same draft class and same age as rookies based on college and potential I would agree with Raven (shocker) Durant has a good case. Remember Davis wasnt that great on offense in college and neither was KAT. But if you project continued growth for both Davis and KAT as bigs you can definitely make a case for those two guys. Based on what we know today Durant has the edge but I really do like Davis and Towns.
based on taking them today at their respective age and based on who will be the better player 20 years from now.
??? In 20 years Durant will be in a nursing home. He's also by far the worst defender of the three. You're looking at maybe 5 more years of prime KD. With Davis or towns you're looking at a dominant big for a decade+.
Im assuming Raven is saying based on drafting them as rookies not right now.
For example I still take LeBron today over Kiwi but if we are projecting who would i rather "build around" it's KL.
miami and Cavs have sucked the best years out of LeBron KL has his best years in front, barring injury.
yeah, i didn't see this coming. kid is special
no,I mean it on right now with even the contracts they have currently. I also laugh really hard at everyone that thinks differently on this matter, you guys just seem to be getting caught up in hype and traditionalism like you need a franchise big and crap like that. Durant is the best player of the three and neither is even close to reaching him anytime soon if ever. when all three will be retired, Durant will be considered the best player. And lol at the thinking that AD is even a decent defender at this point in his career.
Some mighty fine strawmen you've erected there.
For starters, neither myself nor killa stated that a team "needs" a franchise big. So I'm going to take you to task for that, unless you are attempting to make the argument that having a dominant big man is a bad thing and should be avoided? Serious question, because you seem to think that it's a terrible idea to build around AD or KAT.
Of course it's likely Durant ends up having the best career. But KD ie already likely in his prime, and if he continues having injury issues he might be out of his prime by 2018-2019. Tim Duncan will almost assuredly have the best career out of anyone not named LeBron in the NBA, are you saying you'd start a team with Duncan at 39 over KAT?
I also notice that rather than address Durant's shortcomings on defense you chose to go after Davis. That's fine. Davis is still a MUCH better defensive player than Durant will ever be. I'm not sure why you would even argue the point when it just further shows that KD is by no means a lock pick at this point.
Raven, That may be true they may never be MVP players and Durant already won his has scoring le and a Finals trip on his resume. But neither KAt nor Advais are "traditional bigs" their range and ball handling is what makes them special ...when you add to the fact they both can block shot and rebound at fairly high clip.
I was with you when you factor in all at the same age but like Cry mentioned if you do factor age and injury history tough to argue building with KD over say davis when Durant probably only has a few prime years left ... but Raven you do dance to your own beat and I respect that. I think you are wrong here but KAT & AD will need to realize their full potential for you to be wrong ...
see that's just it. While Durant is not a good defender by any means, he still far eclipses AD and Towns in defensive rating... just because those two can block shots, doesn't mean they are great defenders. If they are not groundbreaking defenders, which they are not, not even close, they are not the rudy gobert alter ego, can they develop an unguardable offensive game to be compared to durant? the answer is no.
defensive rating
D-Rating is a function of how good your team defense is. DRPM is a much better individual measure. Durant is 24th among SF's with a rating below 0.5 while Davis is close to 3.5 and is 3rd among PF's (one of whom is KG playing 15 minutes a game, so sample size is an issue).
Easy to cherry pick D-Rating for Davis when he plays alongside poor defenders like Eric Gordon, Ryan Anderson, etc. If you look at the leaders in D-Rating is just a list of players from good team defenses. Guys like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw, Nikola Mirotic, and Kelly Olynyk are among the leaders. Kevin Love is 15th in the league and Tony Parker is 16th
Offensively he's better than Davis right now IMHO. I think his defense will improve too.
so your point is that defensive rating is a bad stat because it tells how the team defense is more than how the player is but drpm is better despite you not knowing what exactly it calculates... hm
D-Rating is a function of how good your team defense is. DRPM is a much better individual measure. Durant is 24th among SF's with a rating below 0.5 while Davis is close to 3.5 and is 3rd among PF's (one of whom is KG playing 15 minutes a game, so sample size is an issue).
Easy to cherry pick D-Rating for Davis when he plays alongside poor defenders like Eric Gordon, Ryan Anderson, etc. If you look at the leaders in D-Rating is just a list of players from good team defenses. Guys like Patty Mills, Boris Diaw, Nikola Mirotic, and Kelly Olynyk are among the leaders. Kevin Love is 15th in the league and Tony Parker is 16th
Davis in on contract 2 and he's not been dominant yet. When is that going to be dominant, when he's 30?
Defensive rating lol
It's the best statistic for defense, no question about it.
davis, durant, KAT
i still take davis over durant....what has durant achieve so far besides a mvp and some wcf le? still a beta cuck maid
davis is surrounded by , wait till he actually has a team around him...
Sarcasm?
He's putting up 23.5, 11.1, and 2.6 blocks per game with a PER close to 25.
He's 22. The do you want from him? He's supposed to be winning championships as a 22 year old on a team?
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