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Everyone knows Enrique is going to show up sooner or later.
I'm not surprised pop hasnt made any adjusment, its early in the season tbh. As you probably already know, the spurs are the poorest late game team out of maybe the top 5 teams.
But looks like teams around the league took some notes out of the clippers game 7 last year. Teams have been staying put on their man and allowing the PnR to happen with the intention to take the pass away. Theyve also done a decent job of knowing spurs players tendency in clutch situation.
By physically disallowing movement outside, teams have forced the spurs to rely on Parker to take manority of the shots late in the fourth. Its a pretty daring move. They are basically taking away the threat of Green-Ginobili-Leonard or whoever is the other big not screening and force san antonio to win games with a 34 year old.
Always said Doc is an overrated hack, but his decision to give Parker space (main reason why he took 23 shots in game 7) was genuis. Teams are taking notes.
Everyone knows Enrique is going to show up sooner or later.
Im on my phone man...can you search for the tweet that showed the spurs have a negative net rating in late game situation...it was tweeted two weeks ago IIRCEveryone knows Enrique is going to show up sooner or later.
Doc dared tp he was hurt playing much better this year
Clutch play is a worry this year. -8.5 NETRTG in clutch-time. To be fair, the sample size is quite small, since the Spurs have been demolishing teams.
I don't think it's as simplistic as teams just baiting SA into Parker/Big PnRs, though. Lacking that extra penetrator and this team's inability to get to the line are also factors.
Hopefully Pop finds an adjustment. I want to see more of a 2 man game between LMA/Kawhi, as I've said all year. Kawhi is learning how to set up the offense off the dribble more. If he can add that additional skill to his set, then I expect our clutch-time stats to improve. Having 2 guys who can set up the offense in the 4th is huge.
OP why don't you tell Holt to hire you as the Spurs' coach?
Agreed.
Still think offense was not the problem in crunchtime this game, it was the D, we gave up 13 in the last 3.5 minutes.
It is def as simple as forcing san antonio to run a two man game.
It might work some nights for the spurs but the logic is pretty obvious.
By staying put and playing physical against off ball players, teams have successfully used Parker tendencies to their advatnage.
Its sounds pretty simple but that simple strategy take away a gazillion of other options in clutch situations.
This team wont win a thing this year if they cant figure out a way to counter that. Doc rivers in game 7 did it the whole game ( 23 shots) parker..he thinks hes takinng what the defense is giving them.
And thats fine. No problem with that mindset but its pretty aparent that it isnt a recipe for outplaying your.opponets in clutch games.
The counter would be early Kawhi/LMA postups. If the opponent doubles (which they probably will), you kick it out to shooters and repost/take the shot. The reason I said stopping the Spurs offense can't be that simple is because this team really does have a wealth of offensive options to go to. Kawhi post-ups/isos, LMA pick-and-pops/pinches/post ups, Duncan rolls/pinches/postups, Manu penetration (if he's on the floor). Parker penetration. You really can't stop that many options.
I'll watch tonight's game carefully on LP and see what you're talking about. If we're not countering such a simplistic man defense scheme, it would mean Parker has regressed to dribble/dribble/dribble-take ty 18 footer.
which games do you think, besides this one, provide evidence to support you? I can watch any of this season's games, and would like to verify your claims. If true, I don't mind giving you credit.
Just name 2 or 3 games that support your argument, and I will confirm it was a 2 man big/pg offense the last 2 minutes.
the games should be close enough that the opponent was within reach, since the rest of the games likely did not have the starters, and it is not really crunch time if up 10+.
If you can't it would confirm my guess that you are just taking some general statistics about spurs sucking in crunch time, and some anecdotal observations, and are over-generalizing.
The concern is that neither Aldridge or Leonard have ad time to work on their offensive clutch game becuse the spurs have been blowing out teams left and right and the few times it was close the spurs run their anitquated 2009 offense.
The counter move is prretty obvious. The spurs have managed to generate flowing offense with Kawhi post ups or sets that gets Aldridge ducking deep. In the last month and half. It isnt as ugly as november anymore.
They do that whole game but are forced to watch in late game situations.
This isnt just about finding a countering strategy though. Parker is going to take whatever the defense is giving him. Ita going to be hard for the coaches to tell parker to call a set when he feels like the.defense is giving him an.opportunity by focusing.on off ball players.
Dont quote me again you . I told you to stop quoting me. You are now on my ignore list. Go be a cheerleader and take your vanillla mainstream ass out of this thread.
It wasn't Doc who came up w/ the skim but rather Rick Carlisle. He was the first coach to take advantage of Porker's decline in the 1st rd of the 2014 playoffs by switching instead of helping. Manu was smart enough to run PnRs w/ Tiago so he can force Dirk to switch but Porky kept dribbling & dribbling after executing the loop expecting the seas to part.
In Gm 7 he finally realized that the defense wasn't going to help & started attacking from the get-go without bothering w/ the loop.
can't handle actual debate. can only sing to the choir.
boring.
Kawhi in crunch time is reduced to being a spot up shooter while Porky runs PnRs w/ LMA. It's basically the Chris Paul/Blake PnR w/ Re on the strong-side except Porker is not an elite mid-range threat so competent defenses give him that shot. Tonight the Knicks made a mistake of giving him the driving lanes instead of sagging but Calderon is one of the worst defenders in NBA history.
Oh horse . The Spurs are NOT the "poorest late game team out of maybe the top 5 teams." It's just not true. I'm so ing sick of this talk about the Spurs' "clutch-time" play being so terrible. So you finally forced me to go to the numbers. So we're looking that the league's "clutch time" stats:
The Spurs have been in 13 "clutch" games. Tied with Golden State for the fewest. So for starters, they don't get into "clutch" situations much.
The Warriors have a 100% win percentage in clutch time. The Spurs win percentage in clutch time is 61.5% which is sixth, but basically it's a statistical tie for 2-6. In other words, the Spurs are as good in clutch time as anyone - except Golden State.
The Spurs FG% in clutch time is 45.0 which is third in the league. The Warriors are 10th in the league at 43.5%. Really? The Spurs clutch FG% is better than the Warriors?
The Spurs 3P percentage in clutch time has been a pathetic 23.5%, good for 22nd in the league. There's on problem.
The Spurs shoot an average of 2.5 free throws in clutch situations, which is tied for fourth worst in the league. There's another problem. Golden State takes an average of 5.2 free throws in clutch time - second best.
But you really only have to look at one thing to understand why the Warriors are better than everyone else in clutch time: DefRtg.
The Spurs DefRtg in clutch time is 112.1 which is among the worst in the league. Compare that to Golden State's DefRtg of 75.1 in clutch time, and you have your answer.
The Spurs' DefRtg is the best in the league, overall, at 93.6 - but in clutch time they have gotten torched. Golden State's DefRtg is third best overall, at 98.1 - but in clutch time, they have been successful in playing their very best defense. Bottom line, the Warriors have been able to ratchet up their defensive intensity in clutch situations. That's why they have 2 losses, and the Spurs have 6. If you want to speculate about why the Spurs haven't defended as well in crunch time, fire away. But stop with the ing "Tony Parker sucks" line of bull . You suck. End of story.
http://stats.nba.com/league/team/#!/...rt=W_PCT&dir=1
It wasn't Doc who came up w/ the skim but rather Rick Carlisle. He was the first coach to take advantage of Porker's decline in the 1st rd of the 2014 playoffs by switching instead of helping. Manu was smart enough to run PnRs w/ Tiago so he can force Dirk to switch but Porky kept dribbling & dribbling after executing the loop expecting the seas to part.
In Gm 7 he finally realized that the defense wasn't going to help & started attacking from the get-go without bothering w/ the loop.
Yeah that happened too.
I was just saying that teams outside of the ones with good coaches didnt.follow suit till this year...
The loop has been pretty much relegated to a two man game now or am 18 foot jumper it doesnt generate the same amount of offense as it did 2012
The issue now is that teams have the luxury to gameplan their defenses that uses Parker as the tool. I have no idea how you go around it since parker is not a natural passer. Majority of his.passes on PnR go to the.rollers or the poper which is fine but when he handles the ball it eliminates the option to passing the ball back.the perimetter. Hes either too scared to make that pass or tunnel vision
Worst and most inaccure use of statistical data.
So name the other 4 best teams that the Spurs are worse than.Worst and most inaccure use of statistical data.
It's absolutely ing accurate. You can't argue with it, so you use emotes. You worthless taint-licking phony. Go start another dozen threads to distract from this ing debacle.
Settle down old man. Those cheesy buritos is going to clog your arteries. Just cheer for your team and lets the basketball guys talk about the x and o. You are.too old for this .
Not surprising at all since the Spurs clutch time backcourt most frequently used is Parker-Manu.
parker jump-shot stats (not 3s)Kawhi in crunch time is reduced to being a spot up shooter while Porky runs PnRs w/ LMA. It's basically the Chris Paul/Blake PnR w/ Re on the strong-side except Porker is not an elite mid-range threat so competent defenses give him that shot. Tonight the Knicks made a mistake of giving him the driving lanes instead of sagging but Calderon is one of the worst defenders in NBA history.
10-14 ft 15-38 39% (not good)
15-19 ft: 40-75 53% (very good)
20+ ft 23-49 46% (more than acceptable)
guess whose jumpshooting numbers these are for the spurs:
10-14 ft 40-88 45% (ok)
15-19 ft 44-108 40.7% (not good)
20+ 48-111 43.2%
although I dont' like us taking long range jump shots at all in crunch time if we can get more efficient shots generally, I will take parker's 53% long range jumper if open.
I didn't like TP's play in the 4th tonight but GSH was on the money here with the MAIN issues. Explain your stance why he's not on point, here.Worst and most inaccure use of statistical data.
LOL. Fanboys think they know how to
coach basketball.
this is what people do when they can't actually beat your argument. they dance around and try to be funny.
but to actually win an argument, you need to be funny and actually win with a counter argument, not just an assertion and hot air.
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