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    -Parker was damn good (excluding that last shot)
    -Kawhi isn't quite there yet on offense, but he lives to play against star players like Fatmelo (whose had a great season thus far)
    -Duncan is still elite, but he can't guard heavy bigs
    -Despite starting slow and not getting a rhythm early, LMA really looks comfortable in the offense compared to November
    -Green is back (despite shooting 3-9). Loved his all-around game for the most part
    It was also fun to see Melo get his packed half a dozen times. Everyone guarding him was denying his ass. It was great to watch tbh. Especially the play D. West got him twice in a row

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    Was it really a great stop, though!?

    I can't rewatch until later, but wasn't it still a clean, set shot and a good look for one of the best shooters in the league, who has been over 41% from three for 4 straight seasons?

    Like I said, I haven't seen it since the live feed.
    Not a great stop, but it was a contested rushed 3 and a result of lockdown defense from Kawhi. As was mentioned by Robz4000 the Knicks had their share of good fortune.

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    I rewatched the 4th, we were getting whatever we wanted boris missed a few he always makes, even LA and Kawhi missed a few bunnies, add in the awfu,l awful ref job and I'm not concerned. There was a period we were up 10-12 for a couple minutes and just couldn't score we get a few buckets there and it probably turns into another blowout.

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    Bobo leads a pretty awesome life TBH. He is a really good BBall player, is highly paid, goes to interesting places all over the world when vacation kicks in. What's not to like about him.

    I would let TP stay in SA for an extra year if it meant Boris stayed too. I think they are both up contractually next year (in 2017).

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    Manus help on Melo almost cost the game. It helped Caldo get a way better look than had he stayed home. No way was Melo getting a good shot up with the D position Kawhi had. He wasnt in position to fade away.

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    -Parker was damn good (excluding that last shot)
    -Kawhi isn't quite there yet on offense, but he lives to play against star players like Fatmelo (whose had a great season thus far)
    -Duncan is still elite, but he can't guard heavy bigs
    -Despite starting slow and not getting a rhythm early, LMA really looks comfortable in the offense compared to November
    -Green is back (despite shooting 3-9). Loved his all-around game for the most part

    Spot on analysis. As far as Kawhi, the starting unit needs another player than can dribble penetrate and finish at the rim like Parker. Kawhi has to be that guy. I think this is what separates Kawhi from other players that are getting MVP mentions. There was one sequence where Kawhi was able to get past his defender at the three but once Lopez rotated he couldn't get the ball up like Parker or Manu or even Simmons. Another sequence Kawhi got the ball at the three point like and had Melo on him and he still couldn't beat Melo to the rim for an easy layup.

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    I rewatched the 4th, we were getting whatever we wanted boris missed a few he always makes, even LA and Kawhi missed a few bunnies, add in the awfu,l awful ref job and I'm not concerned. There was a period we were up 10-12 for a couple minutes and just couldn't score we get a few buckets there and it probably turns into another blowout.
    12 point lead
    That 5 point swing on the no call with kawhi and that incredible tightly covered 3. Just goes to show the difference between a close game and a blow out are sometimes less than you think.

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    Spot on analysis. As far as Kawhi, the starting unit needs another player than can dribble penetrate and finish at the rim like Parker. Kawhi has to be that guy. I think this is what separates Kawhi from other players that are getting MVP mentions.



    Kawhi has improved a lot in that area of his game, penetrating and dishing to the open man against Bucks, or finishing at the rim against Rockets, but he's still more a post-up player/spot-up shooter in the plays designed by Pop.

    While Parker has the ball in his hands, Kawhi doesn't have many opportunities to get that type of plays, in the tweets I posted, Patty casually was the PG on the court.

    This is not against Parker, it's just that Pop's still too reliant on him in those situations. We see how often the Spurs clear out for Parker in the last plays, but they don't do it for Kawhi with Parker on the court, then the space is terrible for him to drive to the rim.

    However, if Pop constantly calls Kawhi's number to develop him, what will be the Parker role? The spot up shooter in the corner?

    Pop keeps Parker in the game while he's still able to drive, penetrate and finish or kick back out to the open man. Otherwise, Parker becomes useless to the system because he's not a great 3-point shooter or a playmaker.

    At some point of Parker/Kawhi careers, Pop'll think it's time to pass the torch, it's just a matter of time.
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    Kawhi has improved a lot in that area of his game, penetrating and dishing to the open man against Bucks, or finishing at the rim against Rockets, but he's still more a post-up player/spot-up shooter in the plays designed by Pop.

    While Parker has the ball in his hands, Kawhi doesn't have many opportunities to get that type of plays, in the tweets I posted, Patty casually was the PG on the court.

    This is not against Parker, it's just that Pop's still too reliant on him in those situations. We see how often the Spurs clear out for Parker in the last plays, but they don't do it for Kawhi with Parker on the court, then the space is terrible for him to drive to the rim.

    However, if Pop constantly calls Kawhi's number in those plays, what will be the Parker role? The spot up shooter in the corner?

    Pop keeps Parker in the game while he's still able to drive, penetrate and finish or kick back out to the open man. Otherwise, Parker becomes useless to the system because he's not a great 3-point shooter or a playmaker.

    At some point of Parker/Kawhi careers, Pop'll think it's time to pass the torch, it's just a matter of time.
    Those are two travels

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    Spot on analysis. As far as Kawhi, the starting unit needs another player than can dribble penetrate and finish at the rim like Parker. Kawhi has to be that guy. I think this is what separates Kawhi from other players that are getting MVP mentions. There was one sequence where Kawhi was able to get past his defender at the three but once Lopez rotated he couldn't get the ball up like Parker or Manu or even Simmons. Another sequence Kawhi got the ball at the three point like and had Melo on him and he still couldn't beat Melo to the rim for an easy layup.
    He tends to favor straight line drives & doesn't yet have the ability to change directions consistently although you will see a random Euro-step or spin move. If he was an elite athlete & had an elite first step then straight line drives would suffice but he's an above average athlete w/ an above average first step thus he need to be more crafty. Pierce for example would use a lot of jab step & spin moves when he was in his prime since Kawhi has an excellent mid-range game he could model his game after Pierce who was also a triple treat b/c his passing abilities.

    At this point, the only thing that separates Kawhi from Melo offensively is their first step.

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    Manus help on Melo almost cost the game. It helped Caldo get a way better look than had he stayed home. No way was Melo getting a good shot up with the D position Kawhi had. He wasnt in position to fade away.
    Not true. Forced Melo to get rid of the ball as soon as he saw the help coming, and he recovered and contested Calderon's shot properly. Melo just hit a turnaround jumper from that same spot over Kawhi a few possessions earlier.

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    No. But you don't watch NBA/LeBron games very often, right?

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    I rewatched the 4th, we were getting whatever we wanted boris missed a few he always makes, even LA and Kawhi missed a few bunnies, add in the awfu,l awful ref job and I'm not concerned. There was a period we were up 10-12 for a couple minutes and just couldn't score we get a few buckets there and it probably turns into another blowout.
    Good post. Many posters are apoplectic about our crunch time play execution. I am more concerned about all the misses that are usually makes. We make those and maintain our 10-12 point cushion to the buzzer.

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    Not true. Forced Melo to get rid of the ball as soon as he saw the help coming, and he recovered and contested Calderon's shot properly. Melo just hit a turnaround jumper from that same spot over Kawhi a few possessions earlier.
    Nope. Caldo got a pretty clean look at it. You don't help unless there is no time for a pass out, or the guy your leaving is a horrible shooter. I specifically said Kawhi was in position on THAT possession. Melo got the fadeaway off previously because he got Kawhi behind him in the post which gave him the positioning to create that space with the fadeaway. This time Melo was driving hard left with Kawhi with him stride for stride on his hip on his shooting hand side. His body wasnt in position to create space with a fadeaway move. He was gonna have to pull up where he was draped by Kawhi but Manu bailed him out by helping and giving him an outlet to a more open Caldo.

    It's the typical live with Manu die with Manu play.

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    No. But you don't watch NBA/LeBron games very often, right?
    Called or not, he took 3 steps in both videos...that shows the refs are blind, not that Kawhi has a handle

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    Manu almost putting up the same stat line in 10 less minutes of play time. Crofl.
    Ginobili had 5 less assists and is the sole owner of the bench squad he can put up similar stats in less
    Minutes that's his job. Parker plays with the starters....


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    Parker was dam good.
    Damn bro your post count is climbing at an unhealthy rate you seriously need to find a hobby.

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    Kawhi has improved a lot in that area of his game, penetrating and dishing to the open man against Bucks, or finishing at the rim against Rockets, but he's still more a post-up player/spot-up shooter in the plays designed by Pop.While Parker has the ball in his hands, Kawhi doesn't have many opportunities to get that type of plays, in the tweets I posted, Patty casually was the PG on the court. This is not against Parker, it's just that Pop's still too reliant on him in those situations. We see how often the Spurs clear out for Parker in the last plays, but they don't do it for Kawhi with Parker on the court, then the space is terrible for him to drive to the rim. However, if Pop constantly calls Kawhi's number to develop him, what will be the Parker role? The spot up shooter in the corner? Pop keeps Parker in the game while he's still able to drive, penetrate and finish or kick back out to the open man. Otherwise, Parker becomes useless to the system because he's not a great 3-point shooter or a playmaker. At some point of Parker/Kawhi careers, Pop'll think it's time to pass the torch, it's just a matter of time.
    If you are somehow suggesting that Parker has stymied the growth of Kawhi then you would be wrong. Parkers ability to get to the rim is unmatched by few. Parkers ability to finish at rim even when a secondary defender (even a big) is equal to other great low post players like Diaw.

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    If you are somehow suggesting that Parker has stymied the growth of Kawhi then you would be wrong.
    Didn't say it. Pop is reliant on Parker while he's still able to get the rim. In next seasons, with Parker's decline, Pop'll lean more on Kawhi to initiate the offense. That's all.

    But you want Kawhi to be that player this season, and he won't. Not while Parker can still do his things.

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    Wow you are right. the first one specially was

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    As far as Kawhi getting to the basket the awesome thing is I don't think this er even knows how good he is on offense yet and when he realizes look out. He may not be the fastest player in the league in a race but he's super quick with the ball they obviously have to respect his jumper so if he keeps shooting the 3 the way he has he'll get to the rim at will.

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    Nope. Caldo got a pretty clean look at it. You don't help unless there is no time for a pass out, or the guy your leaving is a horrible shooter. I specifically said Kawhi was in position on THAT possession. Melo got the fadeaway off previously because he got Kawhi behind him in the post which gave him the positioning to create that space with the fadeaway. This time Melo was driving hard left with Kawhi with him stride for stride on his hip on his shooting hand side. His body wasnt in position to create space with a fadeaway move. He was gonna have to pull up where he was draped by Kawhi but Manu bailed him out by helping and giving him an outlet to a more open Caldo.

    It's the typical live with Manu die with Manu play.
    False. Carmelo is the kind of player that will take and make extremely difficult shots. If you're going to get beat by the Knicks you want somebody other than Carmelo or Porzingod to do it. If Calderon beats you, you tip your hat and go watch tape on how you lost a 12 point lead in 8 mins.

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    False. Carmelo is the kind of player that will take and make extremely difficult shots. If you're going to get beat by the Knicks you want somebody other than Carmelo or Porzingod to do it. If Calderon beats you, you tip your hat and go watch tape on how you lost a 12 point lead in 8 mins.
    I'm not sure about the Manu gamble here. Calderon had a clean look at a corner 3.

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    I'm not sure about the Manu gamble here. Calderon had a clean look at a corner 3.
    All I'm saying is that I rather have Calderon taking the game winning shot than Carmelo. It's my opinion, obviously, everybody can agree or disagree.

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    I'm not sure about the Manu gamble here. Calderon had a clean look at a corner 3.
    False. Carmelo is the kind of player that will take and make extremely difficult shots. If you're going to get beat by the Knicks you want somebody other than Carmelo or Porzingod to do it. If Calderon beats you, you tip your hat and go watch tape on how you lost a 12 point lead in 8 mins.
    He mentioned this himself in that article, how they were fortunate Calderon missed that 3. It was a good shot and had it gone in, different would be the story about that gamble. But that is irrelevant. Ultimately the minutes before were more enlightening, like that failure by Kawhi and LMA to communicate and switch, ending up in a Porzingod wide open dunk. Reminded me of Lamarcus and Kawhi lack of communication on that Wiz Beal 3 that did cost us a game. Nobody is talking about that bc Kawhi... but the game would have been lost in the few preceding minutes (and the Tony contested long 2!).

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