Again, Kawhi gets completely ignored in crunch time...

[bic50]

K is seriously a disturbed individual.

[YGWHI]

K is seriously a disturbed individual.

He needs teraphy, hope he gets sick of himself soon and finds some professional help.

[100%duncan]

I try to ignore re s

[Kidd K]

To be fair that Knicks game was only close because our defense failed repeatedly towards the end. Wasn't too much of an offense thing when NYK scores on practically every possession down the stretch.

Don't know why anyone's blaming Parker . . .he's shooting less than ever aside from his rookie season. And when he does shoot it's been money, his AST/TO ratio is better than ever this year, even his offensive and defensive ratings are both tied for the best of his career. Y'all need a new scapegoat 'cuz Parker is playing superb basketball.

Kawhi's doing fine too. . .personally I don't care who leads the team in FGAs or PPG. As long as the Spurs win games I'm happy.

[bic50]

He needs teraphy, hope he gets sick of himself soon and finds some professional help.

I can't help but to pity someone like that.

[dabom]

To be fair that Knicks game was only close because our defense failed repeatedly towards the end. Wasn't too much of an offense thing when NYK scores on practically every possession down the stretch.

Don't know why anyone's blaming Parker . . .he's shooting less than ever aside from his rookie season. And when he does shoot it's been money, his AST/TO ratio is better than ever this year, even his offensive and defensive ratings are both tied for the best of his career. Y'all need a new scapegoat 'cuz Parker is playing superb basketball.

Kawhi's doing fine too. . .personally I don't care who leads the team in FGAs or PPG. As long as the Spurs win games I'm happy.

Defensive liability playing with 4 elite defensive players will lower your defensive rating. Just saying you can't read too much into that. You can't extrapolate anything except to the current roster.

[dabom]

[COLOR=#000000 !important]Defensive Rating[/COLOR]
1.Kawhi Leonard ▪ SAS92.0
2.Tim Duncan ▪ SAS92.2
3.Hassan Whiteside ▪ MIA92.4
4.Andre Drummond ▪ DET94.1
5.Pau Gasol ▪ CHI95.8
6.LaMarcus Aldridge ▪ SAS96.0
7.Jared Sullinger ▪ BOS96.1
8.Danny Green ▪ SAS96.8
9.Ian Mahinmi ▪ IND96.9
10.DeAndre Jordan ▪ LAC97.9
11.Patrick Mills ▪ SAS98.0
12.Nikola Mirotic ▪ CHI98.3
13.Draymond Green ▪ GSW98.4
14.Boris Diaw ▪ SAS98.4
15.Paul George ▪ IND98.8
16.Kevin Love ▪ CLE98.9
17.Kelly Olynyk ▪ BOS98.9
18.Amir Johnson ▪ BOS99.0
19.Tony Parker ▪ SAS99.2
20.LeBron James ▪ CLE99.3

We don't read this and think Tony is a comparable defender to Draymond right?

Edited that.

[Kidd K]

Defensive liability playing with 4 elite defensive players will lower your defensive rating. Just saying you can't read too much into that. You can't extrapolate anything except to the current roster.

If his defense was so ty and exploitable we wouldn't have by far the best defensive team stats in the NBA. Ofc he isn't as good as Green, Leonard, or Duncan on D'. And those 3 aren't the playmaker Parker is. Fact is, Parker's D' is fine within the scope of this team and he is providing some good play.

If he was truly that ty we would be playing worse with him on the court. . .yet we aren't. He's scaled back his shot attempts too and everyone is flourishing including. Give the guy some credit. He is in no way hurting the team. He's not prime TP or our best player but he's playing well and has accepted a non-star role. What do you expect out of a 33 year old guard? Most guards are done at that age, not posting extremely efficient seasons.

[dabom]

If his defense was so ty and exploitable we wouldn't have by far the best defensive team stats in the NBA. Ofc he isn't as good as Green, Leonard, or Duncan on D'. And those 3 aren't the playmaker Parker is. Fact is, Parker's D' is fine within the scope of this team and he is providing some good play.

If he was truly that ty we would be playing worse with him on the court. . .yet we aren't. He's scaled back his shot attempts too and everyone is flourishing including. Give the guy some credit. He is in no way hurting the team. He's not prime TP or our best player but he's playing well and has accepted a non-star role. What do you expect out of a 33 year old guard? Most guards are done at that age, not posting extremely efficient seasons.

I'm just saying you aren't using the stats correctly. I like his role as a good role player that defers to Kawhi. No it's not a player fan thing, just a Spurs fan thing.

[Kidd K]

[COLOR=#000000 !important]Defensive Rating[/COLOR]
1.Kawhi Leonard ▪ SAS92.0
2.Tim Duncan ▪ SAS92.2
3.Hassan Whiteside ▪ MIA92.4
4.Andre Drummond ▪ DET94.1
5.Pau Gasol ▪ CHI95.8
6.LaMarcus Aldridge ▪ SAS96.0
7.Jared Sullinger ▪ BOS96.1
8.Danny Green ▪ SAS96.8
9.Ian Mahinmi ▪ IND96.9
10.DeAndre Jordan ▪ LAC97.9
11.Patrick Mills ▪ SAS98.0
12.Nikola Mirotic ▪ CHI98.3
13.Draymond Green ▪ GSW98.4
14.Boris Diaw ▪ SAS98.4
15.Paul George ▪ IND98.8
16.Kevin Love ▪ CLE98.9
17.Kelly Olynyk ▪ BOS98.9
18.Amir Johnson ▪ BOS99.0
19.Tony Parker ▪ SAS99.2
20.LeBron James ▪ CLE99.3

We don't read this and think Tony is a better defender than Draymond right?

You can harp on one stat all you want. I didn't make an argument that TP was one of the best defenders in the NBA, I said he's posted one of his most efficient seasons. High scoring efficiency, best AST/TO ratio of career, tied for best O and D ratings of career.

[dabom]

You can harp on one stat all you want. I didn't make an argument that TP was one of the best defenders in the NBA, I said he's posted one of his most efficient seasons. High scoring efficiency, best AST/TO ratio of career, tied for best O and D ratings of career.

There's a lot of factors in comparing past seasons with current seasons is all I'm saying. That other stuff is good though in context.

[Kidd K]

I'm just saying you aren't using the stats correctly. I like his role as a good role player that defers to Kawhi. No it's not a player fan thing, just a Spurs fan thing.

I "used" the stats just fine; to say he was playing fine, not that he was some godly player. It's a joke to on a guy who's putting up solid numbers and playing unselfish ball just because he used to be a better player when he was 3-5 years younger and capable of carrying the team.

[dabom]

I "used" the stats just fine; to say he was playing fine, not that he was some godly player. It's a joke to on a guy who's putting up solid numbers and playing unselfish ball just because he used to be a better player when he was 3-5 years younger and capable of carrying the team.

If you say so. And no one's ting on tony. We need tony during the regular season. Need him to save Patty's body for the post season.

[Hoops Czar]

If you say so. And no one's ting on tony. We need tony during the regular season. Need him to save Patty's body for the post season.

In other words, you're very worried about Manu because without him, Patty is as useless as Nando De Colo was at running the offense.

[dabom]

In other words, you're very worried about Manu because without him, Patty is as useless as Nando De Colo was at running the offense.

Patty played great last post season without Manu much. Keep saying stupid .

[dabom]

Nando is a joke though.

[Hoops Czar]

Patty played great last post season without Manu much. Keep saying stupid .

If it was just a one game series, you'd be right.

[dabom]

If it was just a one game series, you'd be right.

It was 7.

[dabom]

Queen james 4th in MVP standings by most sites. I guess he is entering his decline.

[Brazil]

You don't see #4 in the passing lane? That means the pass either has to be a lob in which case Calderon and the guard who was already beginning to rotate in the paint can get it or it has to go to Manu which gives time for the rotation. Meanwhile LMA has great post position and a mismatch.

Thank yo though for pointing out how you don't know what the youre seeing when you look at the game.

Agreed

that pass direct to Kawhi would have been terrible and begged to become a TOV or a slow lob letting defense all the time they need to rotate.

kids in there using that as an anti Parker argument are pretty much clueless

[lefty]

Nope, don't see a 50% 3PT shooter out there..let me do a one-two game with Manu and close this out..

[dabom]

Agreed

that pass direct to Kawhi would have been terrible and begged to become a TOV or a slow lob letting defense all the time they need to rotate.

kids in there using that as an anti Parker argument are pretty much clueless

Please don't say stupid . That is an easy ing pass. People act like they never watch basketball before.

[raybies]

I'm not into the whole player fan thing, but if that was Duncan calling for the ball like that, at the same age, he would've got the ball. Just saying. What else does Kawhi have to do to get the ball. He wants the ball. Might not be as effective as one poster has said but he has earned that right to get benefit of the doubt. Lol the guy is second in MVP standings in most sites and he doesn't even have the keys to his own team. Sure it's not Spurs thinking, my only case is that Parker has said it's Kawhis team, but at the end doesn't really look for him. To the poster who said we don't know what we're looking at, he has Langston Galloway on the closeout. Langston Galloway. By the time he gets to the ball that's an easy drive through the lane and if not that than he could easily post him up. No shotblocking presence anywhere. I just don't like the lack of respect if that's the word, cause kawhi busts his ass off every game. He does everything. Hasn't he earned the right to get that ball, when he wants it. It's Kawhis team or LMAs... Bull . But I'm happy we're winning. Just would hate for this aspect to be exposed in the playoffs. 5 potential hall of famers of course the pecking order is off. Now that I have "vented" I can go back to supporting the team fully.

[dabom]

I'm not into the whole player fan thing, but if that was Duncan calling for the ball like that, at the same age, he would've got the ball. Just saying. What else does Kawhi have to do to get the ball. He wants the ball. Might not be as effective as one poster has said but he has earned that right to get benefit of the doubt. Lol the guy is second in MVP standings in most sites and he doesn't even have the keys to his own team. Sure it's not Spurs thinking, my only case is that Parker has said it's Kawhis team, but at the end doesn't really look for him. To the poster who said we don't know what we're looking at, he has Langston Galloway on the closeout. Langston Galloway. By the time he gets to the ball that's an easy drive through the lane and if not that than he could easily post him up. No shotblocking presence anywhere. I just don't like the lack of respect if that's the word, cause kawhi busts his ass off every game. He does everything. Hasn't he earned the right to get that ball, when he wants it. It's Kawhis team or LMAs... Bull . But I'm happy we're winning. Just would hate for this aspect to be exposed in the playoffs. 5 potential hall of famers of course the pecking order is off. Now that I have "vented" I can go back to supporting the team fully.

Post of the year this early into the year.

[dabom]

sean elliott "this is the type of mismatch you have all that ball movement for"