We can tell. lol
Spoken like a true non-Spur. /
*kneels down at the altar and sacrifices a cat for Lord Simmons*
I'm so impressed by his progress. Thought there was no way he'd contribute. He's like a good James White that relishes contact.
The Manu comparisons do neither of them a favor. To me he's closer to Gary Neal, less in terms of playing style than in the FO's ability to find these super-fringe nowhere guys that are actually super promising.
James White had a lot of leaping ability but was missing (1) ability to score in traffic with either hand and (2) ability to pass in traffic. That's why I've been so big a supporter of Simmons. You could see this way back in Summer League play.
Richard Jefferson was one of those guys who could score in traffic, however the real difference between Simmons and Jefferson is that Simmons can attack at different angles and he can't pass if he is covered. Dwayne Wade is the player that reminds me most about him.
Crazy enough the pre-draft measurements, Simmons actually is bigger than Wade and leaps higher! What Simmons does not have is Wade's jumpshot.
White hated contact, making him useless, while Simmons seems to thrive or at least not mind it.
That's what Manu and Simmons have in common, they aren't afraid of contact. Unfortunately, Manu is 38 years old and who knows if el-contusion can make it through this season.
Most exciting free agent acquisition since aldridge... Tbh.
Not a jersey guy (I think the only one I ever owned was rodman when I was a little kid)but was curious as to if any of you have bought one yet?
I also had a Rodman jersey back in middleschool along with a Robinson jersey.
Article comparing Manu when he was a rookie and Simmons: http://www.poundingtherock.com/2016/...nathon-simmons
However, as I looked deeper at the stats it becomes clear that on both the per 36 minute and per 100 possessions, Simmons is more efficient as a shooter than Manu was, but also a more talented rebounder and providing similar assist numbers.
The only categories that Manu was markedly better than Simmons were defensive stats like blocks and especially steals.
PTR using ST material.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=255903&page=3
hater finding the goods by accident.
Never saw Manu in his youth, but Manu is so much more than the athletic plays. The leadership, BBIQ, shooting, compe ive fire. Many of his hustle plays are him anticipating what the opponent is doing and taking a gamble that pays off or not, but it pays off often enough and wins you enough games that you have to let him be himself. Finally, the passing, it's more talented,unique and unexpected than any other current player I have seen. Manu kind of leads players to the open spots with his passes.
I recognize that J.Simms has a similar effect in pushing our tempo and creating for the second unit, but Manu is a truly special player. Others may remind us of him, but won't be him. I think I am starting to sour on the comparisons bc they don't do Manu (or Simmons, as he's his own guy) justice.
Likely made possible because Boban was trailing Pick your poison, either defend against Simmons or have him pass to the big man.
Simmonssssssss
I do like him a lot
dude >>> KA
I had no doubt in my mind Simmons could replace Manu as the Spurs future 6th man. He is no manu, but he is as every bit athletic and the one thing he has over young Manu is his size and strength. He rarely gets knocked down going to the rim. I don't expect him to as injured prone as Manu.
He was just thinking too much out there in the Preseason and he wasn't properly closing out on screens on D. And plus he wasn't gauging the speed of help defenders and that led to a lot of his turnovers. The video below would not have happen in the preseason or early season. Simmons has truly adjusted his game to account for the speed of help defenders at an NBA Level
I am a little surprised he has progressed so fast since the preseason. But I am not surprised of the product thus far. Simmons has elite NBA athleticism and he can take almost any defender one-on-one to the hoop. The missing element was his passing off the double teams. I think he has that pretty much down at this point. So much, help defenders are reluctant to leave their guy to guard him at times.
Always thought it funny when some posters here mentioned he should be cut after his preseason performances.
LMAO
What an irresponsible article but it doesn't surprise me coming from Pounding the tbh'. Can't compare numbers when one player is hustling vs Starters and the other is mostly playing vs blowout scrubs. What a joke. PTC ting the bed per par.
Lot's of knee jerk reactions here after having so many years of disappointment with the likes of James 'Flight' Wight, James Gist, Pops Mensah-Bonsu, etc...
Folks got to realize, it isn't the elite athleticism that impressed me, it's the score in traffic and pass in traffic that sets him apart.
It's also a bit sad to think about , but one thing the FO has now vs then, is experienced player development, a dedicated d league team, and chip engelland. Lots of those guys who tried our prior to 2012 didn't get the opportunities that Simmons currently has. Not much more to say about it. Sucks for them, other than James Anderson I don't think anyone we waived would really make a difference.
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