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    I don't see anyway that Jerry lets the NFL put a team in San Antonio, tbh.
    Stop this . He can't stop a team from relocating here. Owners aren't voting down another owner with regard to relocation.

    This myth that Jerry carries some kind of incredible power is asinine and it's even more asinine that people still believe it in the year 2014.

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    Dude, Jerry Jones is basically immortal. If he doesn't want a team in San Antonio, there will be NO team in San Antonio.

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    Can't wait for the San Antonio Raiders tbh.

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    There are 50k Americans in Paris, most are indeed not the typical NFL dudes...

    There is no place in Paris for a second soccer pro team so Ya a pro NFL team in Paris ... Sure
    pretty much tbh

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    http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranci...fl.html?page=2

    Here was the latest article about San Antonio. Even Davis commented on how much better the financial return would be if Oakland relocated to SA.

    Davis seemed sold on San Antonio as a viable option. The results of the survey came back and the results show that SA is more than capable of supporting an NFL franchise. And it looks like San Antonio won an ally in Davis to help their cause of getting an NFL franchise in the near future. So this ordeal didn't land SA the Raiders, but it did help their cause in showing the League can support an NFL franchise and should be next in line after LA to get one.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...004652110.html

    Looks like the Raiders are holding out for a move to LA, where the league is going to build its own stadium. Davis would come out ahead in all scenarios if that happen. If I were the league, I wouldn't put the Raiders in it. But who knows, its all political.

    At this point, I don't see anybody investing in a new stadium in Oakland. That Raiders are gone as soon as the league builds a new stadium in LA.

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    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/raider...040346098.html

    Raiders will use San Antonio as leverage, but still a small possibility.

    It's also stupid for them not to share Levi Stadium with the 49ers. Oakland is actually the exact same distance from Santa Clara as San Francisco. Football stadiums are vastly underutilized and have a limited lifespan, so no reason for two teams in the same metro area not to share.

    Football fans will travel to games too - Foxboro is a good 40 minutes from Boston, Meadowlands is a pain to get to from NYC, etc.

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    Yeah CJW that's why there's constantly reports of 49er fans not going to games cause of the traffic and how far it is.

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    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/raider...040346098.html

    Raiders will use San Antonio as leverage, but still a small possibility.

    It's also stupid for them not to share Levi Stadium with the 49ers. Oakland is actually the exact same distance from Santa Clara as San Francisco. Football stadiums are vastly underutilized and have a limited lifespan, so no reason for two teams in the same metro area not to share.

    Football fans will travel to games too - Foxboro is a good 40 minutes from Boston, Meadowlands is a pain to get to from NYC, etc.
    I still think the Raiders should move here and have one home game in Mexico City during Dia de los Muertos every year. Gives the NFL the Int'l exposure it wants. Mexico has twice the population of UK and it doesn't have a 5 hour time difference.

    I really think Raider would make more money than staying in Oakland. 5+ mil population in South Texas. Plus you can draw anywhere between 1-2 mil of Mexican fans in viewers and merchandise shoppers (possibly more). Mexicans love black colors. Raiders colors and apparel would be a big hit.

    There is nothing left to leverage using SA. NFL is putting all their monies in to the new Stadium in LA and the Rams and Chargers were invited. And both more than likely are going to be moving to LA.

    As I have gone over in this thread, the cost to build a new stadium in Oakland is huge, almost 3 times more than building one in SA. Considering the Raiders don't draw big in merchandising right now as it is, I don't see any point why Davis would stay there from a financial standpoint. It would take him a decade more to recoup his monies staying in Oakland. It was be strictly sentimental reasons at this point.

    As I said in this thread, Davis was shooting for LA first and foremost. Now that deal looks almost dead, it really is a 50/50 shot that the Raiders do come to SA.
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    The Raiders in SA would be cool. The silver and black all in one city.

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    Raiders won't come to San Antonio. What does it have to offer? Ghetto Mexicans that expect handouts and freebies? Fat women to keep players and fans warm when it's cold?

    Be happy with the Spurs

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    Raiders won't come to San Antonio. What does it have to offer? Ghetto Mexicans that expect handouts and freebies? Fat women to keep players and fans warm when it's cold?

    Be happy with the Spurs
    Do you know where the stadium is going to be build. They are building it in Universal City, about 30 minutes from downtown SA. It will only be about 45 miles from Austin. And the propose rail system between SA and Austin more than likely will be built if the Raiders do move to SA/Austin. This will basically allow commuters from Austin to get to games almost hassle free.

    http://www.transystems.com/Home/News...stin-Fina.aspx

    All this is in the works. So SA/Aus area has a lot to offer an NFL franchise. Oakland is just a bunch of minorities as well with one of the highest crime rates in the country.

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    The question is not whether SA/Austin/SW Texas/North Mexico can support a team. It's whether someone can compile the numbers and draw up a proposal that can work. Will other cities help pay to get a stadium built in a suburb? Will the pledges be there? Moving is a big deal, and it took years to even draw up two decent proposals to get to LA. There's like nothing for SA right now.

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    Do you know where the stadium is going to be build. They are building it in Universal City, about 30 minutes from downtown SA. It will only be about 45 miles from Austin. And the propose rail system between SA and Austin more than likely will be built if the Raiders do move to SA/Austin. This will basically allow commuters from Austin to get to games almost hassle free.

    http://www.transystems.com/Home/News...stin-Fina.aspx

    All this is in the works. So SA/Aus area has a lot to offer an NFL franchise. Oakland is just a bunch of minorities as well with one of the highest crime rates in the country.
    Do you know what unicorns are made of? Children's dreams and the wishes of the innocent.

    You can build that up your ass and have a rail system keep delivering it to you.

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    Where the are they going to build a stadium in Universal City lol. And why.

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    Extremely unlikely to happen but if it did, would sound much better as the Texas Raiders than the San Antonio Raiders. The stadium wouldn't be in San Antonio anyways.

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    Do you know where the stadium is going to be build. They are building it in Universal City, about 30 minutes from downtown SA. It will only be about 45 miles from Austin. And the propose rail system between SA and Austin more than likely will be built if the Raiders do move to SA/Austin. This will basically allow commuters from Austin to get to games almost hassle free.

    http://www.transystems.com/Home/News...stin-Fina.aspx

    All this is in the works. So SA/Aus area has a lot to offer an NFL franchise. Oakland is just a bunch of minorities as well with one of the highest crime rates in the country.
    That's actually not a bad location. I figured hypothetically it'd be somewhere between San Antonio and Austin, like San Marcos or New Braunfels. Universal City is a crap town itself, but a good location in terms of accessibility for South Texas.

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    Where the are they going to build a stadium in Universal City lol. And why.
    Because it's closer to Austin. Plus it would be right along the rail system that is being proposed right now.

    http://www.sacurrent.com/Blogs/archi...to-san-antonio

    As far as planning, just read this thread. The major players in SA already have a plan. They just refurbished Alamo Dome, the reason it got upgraded in college bowl ranks this past year. And SA contingent already said it will upgraded further for it to be ready for an NFL team.

    Raiders would play at the Alamo Dome for 2 years while a new stadium is built. I assume the rail system would be built as well. And having one game a year at Azteca Stadium would be cool. The fact that Dia de los Muertos is celebrated for 3 days, You can have the game on either Sunday, Monday or Thursday to coincide with the event. Every PRESEASON game the NFL has played there has been soldout.

    A survey conducted in both SA and Austin favored a team in South Texas. So there is public support of this as well.

    I really don't know what options Davis have at this point. But it seems like he bought the proposed site already, probably for cheap, so in case things fell through in LA, and more than likely Oakland. Sounds like the same thing the Rams owner did before moving the Rams.

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    That's actually not a bad location. I figured hypothetically it'd be somewhere between San Antonio and Austin, like San Marcos or New Braunfels. Universal City is a crap town itself, but a good location in terms of accessibility for South Texas.
    I agree. But because of that, the land is cheap out there. Plus Randolph AFB is out there so you are going to get a lot of military support as well (am I not talking about security). And factor in the rail system propose will be just minutes from the stadium, it would be an ideal location. Rail system will go from SA airport to Aus Airport.

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    I am probably 2 minutes from Universal City. I cannot think of one good spot for a stadium.

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    I am probably 2 minutes from Universal City. I cannot think of one good spot for a stadium.
    Its in one of the articles in this thread. It's an old run down HS sport complex I believe. I too lazy to reread all the articles. But SSE, Cisneros and McCombs already had the site picked out. All I know it's out that way. And I see why considering the rail system they have been planning for a decade know, will run right by it.

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    I am probably 2 minutes from Universal City. I cannot think of one good spot for a stadium.
    He is going to build the stadium up his ass. There is plenty of room there. It's not going to happen anywhere else.

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    Because it's closer to Austin. Plus it would be right along the rail system that is being proposed right now.

    http://www.sacurrent.com/Blogs/archi...to-san-antonio

    As far as planning, just read this thread. The major players in SA already have a plan. They just refurbished Alamo Dome, the reason it got upgraded in college bowl ranks this past year. And SA contingent already said it will upgraded further for it to be ready for an NFL team.

    Raiders would play at the Alamo Dome for 2 years while a new stadium is built. I assume the rail system would be built as well. And having one game a year at Azteca Stadium would be cool. The fact that Dia de los Muertos is celebrated for 3 days, You can have the game on either Sunday, Monday or Thursday to coincide with the event. Every PRESEASON game the NFL has played there has been soldout.

    A survey conducted in both SA and Austin favored a team in South Texas. So there is public support of this as well.

    I really don't know what options Davis have at this point. But it seems like he bought the proposed site already, probably for cheap, so in case things fell through in LA, and more than likely Oakland. Sounds like the same thing the Rams owner did before moving the Rams.
    That's not a plan. That's at best an outline. Who's going to pay the billion it will take to build a stadium good enough to keep Davis from wanting to move the team in a few years? Who's going to pay for the rest of the upgrades? What about marketing, corporate partnerships, transportation? These are things that have been worked out in the LA plans FOR YEARS. SA is really behind the eight-ball, and they're even further behind if they expect the Raiders to be a regional team with a market larger than most states.

    That doesn't even mention that you need a plan for the stadium to generate non-game revenue, and that's a lot harder if it's located outside of the city (or even the main metro area). I think a good deal of the events that would generate the money for other teams would conflict heavily with the AT&T Center or Jerry World. Nothing is clear yet.

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    That's not a plan. That's at best an outline. Who's going to pay the billion it will take to build a stadium good enough to keep Davis from wanting to move the team in a few years? Who's going to pay for the rest of the upgrades? What about marketing, corporate partnerships, transportation? These are things that have been worked out in the LA plans FOR YEARS. SA is really behind the eight-ball, and they're even further behind if they expect the Raiders to be a regional team with a market larger than most states.

    That doesn't even mention that you need a plan for the stadium to generate non-game revenue, and that's a lot harder if it's located outside of the city (or even the main metro area). I think a good deal of the events that would generate the money for other teams would conflict heavily with the AT&T Center or Jerry World. Nothing is clear yet.
    I heard Adult Megaplex is the main sponsor. The dome will be called the Adult Megadome. They made a ton of money selling CWS fist dildos

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