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    Would like to have some ideas, thoughts, and information for this year with investing. I am sort of new but I am learning more and more as I go.



    anyway..... Energy ETF's seem like a good buy if you are able to wait for the long term.

    I follow Kevin Oleary thinking with only investing in stocks with a dividend. So far its been working out.. time is really on your side.

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    Would like to have some ideas, thoughts, and information for this year with investing. I am sort of new but I am learning more and more as I go.



    anyway..... Energy ETF's seem like a good buy if you are able to wait for the long term.

    I follow Kevin Oleary thinking with only investing in stocks with a dividend. So far its been working out.. time is really on your side.
    yeah, a good strategy in this environment to look for solid companies that pay a dividend, then just roll the dividend back into your position.

    I'm probably gonna take a flyer with about 20K on a beat down LNG stock and risk 100% loss on a 20X gain in 5 years. If I lose it I write it off @ 40% this year if I win I don't pay tax till I sell.

    I'm investing a lot back into my company which has been giving me crazy 6 figure returns.

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    You might want to look at Apple. Their stock has been hammered on the cut back on 6 production. Apple is loaded with cash and has their hands in a lot of new promising tech besides phones and they aren't going anywhere. at a PE of 11 and a dividend approaching 3% at this price point it should be a good safe play for 2016.

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    You might want to look at Apple. Their stock has been hammered on the cut back on 6 production. Apple is loaded with cash and has their hands in a lot of new promising tech besides phones and they aren't going anywhere. at a PE of 11 and a dividend approaching 3% at this price point it should be a good safe play for 2016.
    they are the definition of pure ...

    arent bringing anything new to the table
    there latest app what is it? that online payment ...lol the banks wont allow that to have them come in have a piece of the pie what the banks have already built...
    apple only makes money from suing samsung and fck them anyway

    im glad the chinese mutts are buying iphones and whatever apple horse , reverse engineer and mass clone cheaper bull

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    they are the definition of pure ...

    arent bringing anything new to the table
    there latest app what is it? that online payment ...lol the banks wont allow that to have them come in have a piece of the pie what the banks have already built...
    apple only makes money from suing samsung and fck them anyway

    im glad the chinese mutts are buying iphones and whatever apple horse , reverse engineer and mass clone cheaper bull
    Yeah, sneeze at a billion + using their phones and apple pay. Read up on their new apple pay deal in china.

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    Btw I don't currently own apple but think at the current price it is a good dividend play with very little more downside in stock price.

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    Why the decade's second half may look much different from the first for investors — and workers

    http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...110-story.html

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    Btw I don't currently own apple but think at the current price it is a good dividend play with very little more downside in stock price.
    http://investorplace.com/2016/01/app.../#.VpKQE3OIbqA

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    The Economy in 2016: On the Edge of Recession

    http://robertreich.org/post/136616314155

    wait for the bottom?


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    I was an Apple fanboy for awhile but even I realized a few years ago they are not bringing anything innovative to the table.

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    chinas economy is built on a load of bull

    their censorship laws probably applies to non disclosing of financial reports, probably explains why these clowns are always saying on pace for 7%gdp every fkn year....why dont they give the world the real results? lol peggin the yuan against all currency to keep the masses happy and employed or else once labor costs gets to expensive where everyone pulls out of china, the govt will then need to do some to keep the masses employed or else expect another revolution

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    Twitter at an all time low today....

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    I was an Apple fanboy for awhile but even I realized a few years ago they are not bringing anything innovative to the table.
    Apple is still a machine but no company can sustain the growth they had going. Unless you need to diversify into or within tech stocks, then I think there are better investment opportunities out there.

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    Whenever the Dow drops 300 points, I buy S&P 500 index ETF. Or if you want to gamble, buy a little oil, gold miner or lottery tickets. AAPL's a great buy (if you're into individual stocks) - everybody loves their I-phone and China's a huge market.

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    I have been reading on other forums . Exxon Mobil is staying strong given the other oil companies are dropping

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    I have been reading on other forums . Exxon Mobil is staying strong given the other oil companies are dropping
    The stock price is strong or the company? It's not always really the same.

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    The price relatively

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    Japan style across the board deflation is a very real possibility in the US. For the most part I'm just gonna stockpile cash this year unless I see some stock deals I just can't resist. I'm about there with this LNG stock I've been playing with. I know conventional wisdom says not to chase a stock down but it's so oversold it's crazy...I'm probably gonna buy around 30,000 shares next week and either hit a 10-20 bagger in 5 years or lose it all.

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    The US economy is consumer driven and I just don't see where the consumer spending is going to come from. I think we are gonna bump along at less than 2% GDP growth for years. Most baby boomers are realizing they didn't save enough for retirement and have quit spending and started saving. The generations behind the boomers have stagnant wages and less disposable income. Home ownership rates continue to drop. Taxes are eventually going to have to go up and not just for the rich. They will have to hit the middle class too because numerically that's where the money is.

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    The price relatively
    You don't really need other people to tell you that though. You can look at the price for yourself and see that it's pretty stable especially compared to other oil companies.

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    Exxon is probably a good dividend play at current prices.

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    The US economy is consumer driven and I just don't see where the consumer spending is going to come from. I think we are gonna bump along at less than 2% GDP growth for years. Most baby boomers are realizing they didn't save enough for retirement and have quit spending and started saving. The generations behind the boomers have stagnant wages and less disposable income. Home ownership rates continue to drop. Taxes are eventually going to have to go up and not just for the rich. They will have to hit the middle class too because numerically that's where the money is.
    So where is one to put one's money? I try to buy "safe" (not that there's such a thing - but large, US) on dips. If I were starting out today, I could not afford a house at these prices (even with the low interest rates). I think if I had to do it over again, I'd keep my stable government job and pension and let hubby stay home with the kids and start some business (but what?). The kids would have had a lot more fun :-)

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    So where is one to put one's money? I try to buy "safe" (not that there's such a thing - but large, US) on dips. If I were starting out today, I could not afford a house at these prices (even with the low interest rates). I think if I had to do it over again, I'd keep my stable government job and pension and let hubby stay home with the kids and start some business (but what?). The kids would have had a lot more fun :-)
    Right now the best conservative bet for an investor is to buy big stable companies that pay decent dividends that you feel comfortable holding for five years. You get the dividends every year and historically over the long haul you should get capital gains as well. I'm fortunate enough to be able to invest back into my own business and have been getting killer returns. I can take profit, pay taxes on it, loan it back to the company at 6% and then use that money to make more money.

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    Right now the best conservative bet for an investor is to buy big stable companies that pay decent dividends that you feel comfortable holding for five years. You get the dividends every year and historically over the long haul you should get capital gains as well. I'm fortunate enough to be able to invest back into my own business and have been getting killer returns. I can take profit, pay taxes on it, loan it back to the company at 6% and then use that money to make more money.
    Well, I guess I'm doing what you suggest (but buying on dips - no dollar averaging for me) - only with index fund - don't have time to research individual companies.

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