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    Those FBI agents in Washington are knocking down middle class salaries while they see the politicians all around them getting filthy rich.

    Bet they LOVE this case.

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    True, but the quid pro quo is if the FBI proves it.

    remember, smart money says they have recovered the 30,000 emails Hillary deleted.

    All it takes is one mistake.
    your tune won't change if they don't find it. you'll just shift to the next conspiracy du jour, like you did after Benghazi.

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    your tune won't change if they don't find it. you'll just shift to the next conspiracy du jour, like you did after Benghazi.
    Benghazi wasn't about the video.

    I think that has been proven beyond a doubt.

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    hope in one hand and in the other and see which one fills up faster. your fervent anti-HRC bleating has consisted of mostly bs to date.

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    your threadbare surmise that Congress has pressured the FBI to investigate HRC about this is just that.
    so you think the FBI is participating in yet another Repug witch hunt, in an election year, of the Clinton's on their own?

    esp on something as mushy, controversial as what's classified and what's not?

    and when other govt honchos, fed and state, have used non-govt email servers for govt business?

    Repugs fund the FBI, a HUGE lever.

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    you've been doing it for years. there's nothing to it, besides your strong feelings, valid though they might be.

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    Expanding probe. Ouch!

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    unlike Congress, the FBI is relatively unpolitical. an FBI public announcement naming HRC as a target would be game-changing.

    OTOH, the serial Congressional investigations of HRC and Benghazi -- which came up with bupkis -- have been an abuse of oversight privileges for a nakedly political purpose: to disqualify a candidate the GOP rightly fears it can't beat at the ballot box.

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    esp on something as mushy, controversial as what's classified and what's not?
    that weak excuse doesn't work in this instance

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/08/politi...016/index.html

    Washington (CNN)The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee released a scathing statement Friday, calling on Hillary Clinton to "come clean" after the State Department released an email in which she asked an aide to send information on a non-secure system after attempts to send the do ent securely failed.


    Sen. Chuck Grassley said the email, released at about 1:30 am Friday morning along with about 3,000 other emails from Clinton's State Department tenure, is "disturbing," and "appears to show the former Secretary of State instructing a subordinate to remove the headings from a classified do ent and send it to her in an unsecure manner."
    On June 16, 2011, top Clinton aide Jake Sullivan wrote to Clinton to say she would get "tps" -- presumably short for "talking points" that evening. The subject of the email is redacted so it's not clear what topic these points covered.




    The next morning, Clinton wrote back to say she hadn't received them yet, and after a few minutes Sullivan responded that staff were having issues sending the do ent in a secure fax but that they were "working on it."
    "If they can't," Clinton replies, "turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure."


    Clinton's critics are now seizing on the email, and say it shows a disregard of the security of classified information.
    "It raises a host of serious questions and underscores the importance of the various inquiries into the transmittal of classified information through her non-government email server," said Grassley, who went on to ask: "How long has the State Department been aware of this email? Why is it just now being released? Was her instruction actually carried out? If so, has the FBI opened a criminal inquiry into these cir stances?"
    A State Department official declined to comment on Grassley's statement, but told CNN earlier in the day that the department has "no indication at this time that the do ent being discussed was emailed to her."
    "I'm not going to speculate about whether the do ent being discussed was classified," this official added. "Generally speaking, I can say that just because a do ent is sent via a secure method doesn't mean that it's classified. Many do ents that are created or stored on a secure system are not classified."
    A spokesperson for Grassley's office says it is working under the assumption the email was classified, since Clinton's aides would have had other ways to send the do ent to her if it wasn't, such as through email.

    Clinton's email practices have been a source of criticism since March 2015, when it was revealed she used a private email server to conduct official business while at the State Department.
    She has vehemently insisted she never sent or received information that was classified at the time it was sent.
    The State Department has backed her on that claim, but have since retroactively classified information in over 1,000 of her emails.
    The State Department is in the process of releasing Clinton's work-related emails, which total nearly 55,000 pages, to the public, which is how this new email came to Grassley's attention. The department is scheduled to release the last of Clinton's emails at the end of this month

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    Repugs on another Clinton witch hunt, for 25 years and counting.

    Benghazi!

    whitewater!

    Christmas card list!

    WH visitors list!

    She murdered Vince Foster!

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    The smoking gun seems to be Bills speaking fees immediately jumping from the $100,000 range to the half million range when she became sec of state. $500,000 for a 20 minute talk sure looks and smells like a bribe.
    or maybe just chump change to be able to curry favors from the potential next POTUS?

    EDIT: WH beat me to it

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    Repugs on another Clinton witch hunt, for 25 years and counting.

    Benghazi!

    whitewater!

    Christmas card list!

    WH visitors list!

    She murdered Vince Foster!
    If the republican establishment was capable of creating these Clinton scandals out of thin air, don't you think they would have used that trick against Obama?

    Funny how Obama has never had a scandal where he was personally accused of doing anything illegal. Had terrible judgment? Sure. Ideologically hates America? Sure. Not American? Sure. But illegal as in broke the law? His underlings like Lois Lerner? Sure. But him personally? Nope. Never comes up.

    The Clintons on the other hand are magically accused of taking bribes and breaking the law over and over and over.

    I guess the vast right wing conspiracy is asleep at the switch.

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    If the republican establishment was capable of creating these Clinton scandals out of thin air, don't you think they would have used that trick against Obama?
    Birth certificate, Muslim Kenyan Socialist, Fast and Furious, terrorist appeaser, Solyndra, divider not a uniter, there's a million tricks tried and failed against Obama. If you can't see them you're blind.

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    just like Hilary, none of it stuck except for true believers with stuck minds.

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    do I have gripes with Obama?

    yeah,a bunch.

    official secrecy, electronic dragnet, drone wars,ongoing wars in the middle east that haven't ceased yet including Iraq and Afghanistan, Gitmo, prosecuting whistleblowers, Obamacare, bailing out criminal banksters, erosion of the 4th amendment...I have my own laundry list of misdeeds.

    but most of the bull in the headlines is just that.

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    Obama is the rarest of all rare breeds -- a moderate Republican. He's a ing Tory. A caretaker of power.

    He preserved and and enhanced the power of his office for his Republican successors. Give him credit (or blame) for that, at least.

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    When the economy the bed and the citizenry went bat crazy, the country didn't fall apart. He deserves a modi of credit for that too.

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    The rate of government spending decreased, the deficit shrunk.

    Obama deserves blame for a lot of things, but not for most of the things ST posters blame him for.

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    you think it's bad now, just wait til we have President Trump or President Cruz.

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    I do wonder whether unnamed sources would compromise an ongoing investigation if they had confidence it was going somewhere...

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    Birth certificate, Muslim Kenyan Socialist, Fast and Furious, terrorist appeaser, Solyndra, divider not a uniter, there's a million tricks tried and failed against Obama. If you can't see them you're blind.
    Thanks for proving my point.

    All of those are political scandals.

    They aren't Obama personally going out and breaking the law in an individual capacity.

    Get back to me when someone accuses Obama of rape.
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    When the economy the bed and the citizenry went bat crazy, the country didn't fall apart. He deserves a modi of credit for that too.
    The economy was never going to fall apart. Some assholes on wall street would have lost their jobs.

    Instead your man of the people was completely content to pay those asshole bankers millions of dollars to not go out of business and now not to flood the market with the cheap money that their banking cartel printed and gave to themselves to keep their balance sheets in the black.

    Meanwhile the real economy has been in the ter for 7 years.

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    not my man of the people. you ain't been listening.

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    I called him a Tory and a caretaker of power. That ain't no man of the people. Toady to power and money is what I said.

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    If our government won't kick vicious exploiters in the nuts, who will?

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