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    Still too early but Simmons will be something, the old sport is definitely apart of the future core of the Spurs

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    Maybe not a better defensive option at this point in their careers but I think he can be comparable. Sure when we face golden state I want Danny guarding Stephanie. Lol auto correct but I'll let it stay... Anyways while we're on the subject I like the dynamic juice brings if Danny isn't hitting threes. He gets to the rim and in the playoffs that translates. I think his play tonight was a good sign he did his job. When manu retires he may still have the same role if juice can keep his progress up. Just wanted more to read about the subject...
    I think for sure, he can be our SG of the future after Manu... not ever the same as Manu, but I would rather have someone like him than a guy like Marco as bench SG without Manu. He's more dynamic and plays defense. He gives the SL different options with his drives to the basket, something we would be completely missing when Manu retires, so you can swap him up with Danny much as Pop switches Danny/Manu right now depending on what he feels the team is lacking. Then in the bench, when Anderson develops he'll be able to pair up with either guy. When Danny plays with the bench you run more things through Anderson as he can post up and dish... Anderson and Danny have a lot of chemistry TBH. Anderson finds him for transition 3s and gets him shots. When he's with Simmons, you run things for Simmons. Hopefully Anderson develops that 3 to space things out for Simmons, and also Anderson is great finding cutters to the basket. The two who are unlikely to mesh up is Kawhi/Anderson unless you have Anderson as a small ball 4... I don't see Anderson as a SG, hes just not quick enough and when you have Danny/Simmons, we don't ever want to put him there, unless its a switch.

    Overall I think the wings will be able to mix and match very well. Anderson is the youngest and the one who needs to develop more (his strength/body and his 3 ball), but Simmons is already older and further along. To me sounds like we could be set if these guys continue to progress on their current trayectory.

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    No. Next.

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    He has the potential. But, it looks like Simmons shines better on the Offensive end.

    The Spurs love having a great defender who can shoot 3's. It worked well with Bowen, and it has worked well with Green. I don't think Pop wants to give that up. Simmon doesn't seem to be the 3 point shooter Danny is...or has been in the past. Even tho he's a much better scorer. So, Pop will give Danny the time and room to get his together...lucky for him.

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    Simmons is great at getting into the paint, and passing. He is mediocre on D. A tonne of potential though.

    Green is a high level perimeter defender and fast break defender, he is currently ice cold on the offensive side of things. He can only get better at shooting surely. He is also dribbling way too much then taking terrible midrange shots.

    Overall Green should stay in the start purely for his defense. That's what will do us better in the playoffs anyway, especially against matchups like the dubs if we play them.

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    Dude, you weren't paying attention.

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    Simmons is a below average defender at this point. He has shown he has the potential to be a good (maybe even great) defender down the road, but as of now he's definitely not there...which is fine/expected considering his lack of NBA experience.

    Green has been a bit disappointing defensively this year, but overall he's still at least been an above average defender.

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    Since Spurstalk has spent much of this year turning Danny Green into the most overrated defender in the history of sports, the answer is probably yes. All I care about is that Green gets comfortable in his own skin before the playoffs.

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    Simmons is a below average defender at this point. He has shown he has the potential to be a good (maybe even great) defender down the road, but as of now he's definitely not there...which is fine/expected considering his lack of NBA experience.

    Green has been a bit disappointing defensively this year, but overall he's still at least been an above average defender.
    I don't know about below average; but he hasn't dazzled like in SL.

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    ]Simmons is a below average defender at this point. [/B]He has shown he has the potential to be a good (maybe even great) defender down the road, but as of now he's definitely not there...which is fine/expected considering his lack of NBA experience.

    Green has been a bit disappointing defensively this year, but overall he's still at least been an above average defender.
    What the ? Do you even know what you are talking about?

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    He hasn't been particularly impressive on that end. Maybe "below average" is exaggerating, but he certainly hasn't been good as a whole. He's extremely prone to fouling and seems to struggle with losing his man. His opponents shoot noticeably better against him compared to their averages.

    Again, he has moments where he shows great defensive potential, but the consistency isn't there yet.

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    No. Green is a better defender, but mostly because Simmons loses focus and gets lost at times in the team defensive schemes. One on one, Simmons has impressed by generating a few turnovers, but Danny does a lot of that too, plus he is a great shot blocker for a two guard.

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    He hasn't been particularly impressive on that end. Maybe "below average" is exaggerating, but he certainly hasn't been good as a whole. He's extremely prone to fouling and seems to struggle with losing his man. His opponents shoot noticeably better against him compared to their averages.

    Again, he has moments where he shows great defensive potential, but the consistency isn't there yet.
    Yes, below average is too much of an exaggeration. Simmons is asked to guard the players that Leonard or Green is asked to guard.

    He's not as disciplined as both Leonard or Green, but you are comparing with the top wing defenders in the league.

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    Is Simmons better than Green? Right now no. But he's a rookie. Green has had time in the system and is way more comfortable. Simmons will surpass Green in not time.

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    Pop molding him to be...

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    It does seem like Pop wants to groom him to at least be the third guy. It just goes to underscore how Pop treats his guys differently. Simmons isn't on Green's continent defensively (even in the down year), but Pop will praise the out of Jonathon and bristle at the suggestion that Green is a good defender. I understand that he's coaching them the way he thinks he needs to, but it's obvious the media doesn't understand that.

    And that block on Lebron was completely a goaltend. For all the calls to go the Spurs' way in this game.

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    He's very poor defensively, but I understand Pop's strategy, since his on-ball defense is far better than his team defense, right now..

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    Simmons obviously plays with energy but its pretty clear hes a poor defender. The bigs behind him never knows what they are suppose to do because he tries so hard to body them up.

    Green plays controlled defensivley and is almost always insync with the bigs.

    My biggest worry is that pop convinces himself for some odd reason that simmons deserve to eat some of green playoff minutes. Could be a game changer against.the spurs

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    Kid was the best defender we had tonight against Kyrie.

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    He's a streaky defender who is learning NBA defense. Only an idiot would call him an out and out bad defender.

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    He has quick feet and athleticism to make guards uncomfortable. Apparently that is what Pop wants. I definitely like his effort. We have to understand he's a rookie and will get lost at times, but he does definitely put in the effort and hustle and that is necessary. He has also improved. He was much much worse when he started playing so I do believe he looks at film and practices with the guys.

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    Don't get the defense hate on him. Sure he needs to be better within the scheme but his constant on ball pressure is impressive. He's learning, plus in a playoff series, that constant body on body D will start wearing guys out over the course of the series. He's a great change of pace to throw at a guy.

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    Simmons obviously plays with energy but its pretty clear hes a poor defender. The bigs behind him never knows what they are suppose to do because he tries so hard to body them up.

    Green plays controlled defensivley and is almost always insync with the bigs.

    My biggest worry is that pop convinces himself for some odd reason that simmons deserve to eat some of green playoff minutes. Could be a game changer against.the spurs
    this

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    I don't know why anyone is knocking on his defense tonight. Every bucket Kyrie got on him was tough. As opposed to the the turnstyle from Parker, Manu, and Green. And he threw Lebron's one time. And generally had the Buckets scowl going on all game about us being down.

    Somewhere tonight Stephen Jackson was smoking a bowl, nodding his head in approval, and thinking back to the Nets series in 03.

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    ^ No wonder so many people think Simmons played well. Iriving had no issues with Simmons. Drew just went by him on every possession.

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