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    2% gdp and deflation?

    oil = worth jack now

    go invest in recession proof industries like health and bigpharma...

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    2% gdp and deflation?

    oil = worth jack now

    go invest in recession proof industries like health and bigpharma...
    Where's a jail I can invest in? lol.

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    Well, I guess I'm doing what you suggest (but buying on dips - no dollar averaging for me) - only with index fund - don't have time to research individual companies.
    http://www.marke ch.com/story/15-...-13-2015-06-16

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    Big correction today. The market was down nearly 400 points earlier.

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    Big correction today. The market was down nearly 400 points earlier.
    Oil hit a new low.

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    Remember when the GOP was telling us how great that would be?

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    The OP really needs to state if by 2016 he means he wants to make money this year or what?

    The time horizon is incredibly important in all of this.

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    Well I am more for value, long term investing.

    Day trading or the similar seems way too difficult and only a skill few % have capability being profitable imo

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    With a lot of average people having more disposable income from low gas prices beer (BUd, Anheuser Busch)) and cigarettes (MO, Altria group) should do really well this year even with a recession.

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    With a lot of average people having more disposable income from low gas prices beer (BUd, Anheuser Busch)) and cigarettes (MO, Altria group) should do really well this year even with a recession.
    consumer spending was down in december though? but yes cigs and alcohol is totally different and that makes sense.

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    Well I am more for value, long term investing.

    Day trading or the similar seems way too difficult and only a skill few % have capability being profitable imo
    S&P index fund and let her ride.

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    S&P index fund and let her ride.
    Terrible time/year to start that method. We haven't seen the bottom yet. IMHO 2016 is gonna get ugly.

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    Yeah more like Energy ETF and see what happens In 3-5 years

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    With a lot of average people having more disposable income from low gas prices beer (BUd, Anheuser Busch)) and cigarettes (MO, Altria group) should do really well this year even with a recession.
    Why would people with disposable income buy Budweiser?

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    Why would people with disposable income buy Budweiser?
    Anheuser Busch is worldwide and many brands. Way more than just budweiser chump.

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    Why would people with disposable income buy Budweiser?
    http://www.ijreview.com/2015/07/3683...ates-beer-map/

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    Terrible time/year to start that method. We haven't seen the bottom yet. IMHO 2016 is gonna get ugly.
    And you are market timing. When are you going over to cash then? Or have you already. And when do you re enter?

    Dollar cost averaging. Begin whenever. If you think things get worse wait. But don't throw the method out. If you want to play games and make it interesting be willing to lose.
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    I agree that dollar cost averaging is a viable long term strategy but this particular 2016 market is a falling knife. The fed is out of silver bullets. And yeah except for one speculative play I'm currently in at 15k and about to add 30k to I am solid 6 figure in cash. I can't think of a single reason the S&P won't drop another 20% looking for a bottom.

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    Smart money is going to cash. Fed raised prime 25 basic points and 10 year note interest dropped under 2%. People are just trying to preserve capital until the smoke clears.

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    Anheuser Busch is worldwide and many brands. Way more than just budweiser chump.
    If they buy enough craft beer brands, they could do alright, but the regular crap brands are trending downward. That's the whole reason for the consolidation in the first place.

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    This thing is going down to 1500.

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    I can't think of a single reason the S&P won't drop another 20% looking for a bottom.
    I can.

    I am unable to accurately predict human behavior.
    If everyone believed what you stated do you realize how they would react on Monday?

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    Actually, markets will be closed Monday in the US. Meanwhile markets around the world look down. It was a bloodbath in the Middle East markets with Iran oil going on line. China is sucking, Australia market is so commodity based it sucks with china. Europe is choking on immigrants. A strong dollar hurts us business. Where is the good news that will stabilize the market?

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    so I heard the secret is buying low and selling high. is that true?

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