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    Hypothetically you could give Danny Green a "rest game" and start Simmons, even though there's no way in Pop does that for a player in their first season. In that scenario, it would be Manu starting obviously. Even if that were the case, Manu's minutes would be limited, and Simmons would see the majority of the game.
    Pop does it all the time. He'll start the third-string guy so the backup doesn't lose any rhythm. When Parker rested, McCallum started a game.

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    By the way I don't think Danny is benched for missing shots. He has to maintain a level of defense that is consistent though.
    I don't think it's a punishment, but more to shake him out of whatever's bugging him. Honestly, the fact that Pop hasn't done it this far into the season worries me a bit.

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    I like Simmons with the 2nd unit. He is a better ball handler than Danny so more help for Patty and Manu.

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    It's actually Jonathon. Alternative spellings are very AA.


    Good call; except, it's not so much alternative spelling as much as simply being misspelled.

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    I like Simmons with the 2nd unit. He is a better ball handler than Danny so more help for Patty and Manu.
    In fact, if that is the basis of your not wanting to play Simmons with the first unit, I think your reasoning is faulty. I would argue that Manu and Patty are more than adequate, requiring less ball handling help than a solo Tony (with increasing assistance from Kawhi).

    I believe that moving Danny to the second unit would seriously dilute the 3-point shooting of the first unit - until Simmons provides sufficient evidence that he can be a 3-point threat.

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    Holy , Simmons looks like he might even be a better shooter than Danny at this point

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    Simmons ability to drive against a weak defender like Deron Williams is something D Green can't offer.

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    and simmons is tough, athletic, and not scared. all three things that clubbin green can't provide.

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    In fact, if that is the basis of your not wanting to play Simmons with the first unit, I think your reasoning is faulty. I would argue that Manu and Patty are more than adequate, requiring less ball handling help than a solo Tony (with increasing assistance from Kawhi).

    I believe that moving Danny to the second unit would seriously dilute the 3-point shooting of the first unit - until Simmons provides sufficient evidence that he can be a 3-point threat.
    I disagree.

    Tony is not Solo as you stated. I think Simmons is a better player now so I want him with the 2nd unit.

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    meh - its fun to stir the pot, but SA has awesome record. I wouldn't tweak it. I just like to watch chump-pumper have a tantrum when someone disses green.

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    #StartSimmons

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    and simmons is tough, athletic, and not scared. all three things that clubbin green can't provide.
    Green is terrible with the motion offense of the 2nd unit. He tries too much and gets into trouble.

    Simmons will play better in a team with motion offense. Simmons can score in the paint if the defense is off balance, that happens a lot with the second unit.

    So, despite Simmons playing consistently better than Green, Green makes better sense with the starters.

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    Starting Simmons jus might help the Spurs with their slow startin 1st periods!!

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    Starting Simmons jus might help the Spurs with their slow startin 1st periods!!
    I attribute the slow starts to a lack of preparation agains the opponent. Spurs are treating the regular season as practice and don't really make an effort scouting the opponent.

    I think Pop wants the team to learn to adjust with the opponent.

    This also explains why Spurs blow out the team by the 3rd quarter.

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    "lack of preparation"

    West said recenlty Spurs don't do much film study and specific preparation. I think that changes in the playoffs

    btw, John Wooden apparently never even mentioned the other teams' names, never mind make specific preparation. worked out ok



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    "lack of preparation"

    West said recenlty Spurs don't do much film study and specific preparation. I think that changes in the playoffs

    btw, John Wooden apparently never even mentioned the other teams' names, never mind make specific preparation. worked out ok


    It is crazy that the Spurs are so dominating even without the preparation.

    I really like the idea that (1) Spurs focus on how to execute better regardless of the compe ion and (2) adjust to the opponent in real time.

    I do agree thought that will change come playoff time.

    Right now, it's all experimentation and focusing on execution.

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    It is crazy that the Spurs are so dominating even without the preparation.

    I really like the idea that (1) Spurs focus on how to execute better regardless of the compe ion and (2) adjust to the opponent in real time.

    I do agree thought that will change come playoff time.

    Right now, it's all experimentation and focusing on execution.
    I am not familiar with their processes as far as game preparation is concerned. So for me, this just begs the question whether that has always been Pop's MO. I would guess so. Because we seem this season to be such obvious "counter-punchers" as GSH has dubbed us, it seems like the Spurs have perhaps altered their process. The "counter punch" character of the team did not strike me nearly so much in years past.

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    I am not familiar with their processes as far as game preparation is concerned. So for me, this just begs the question whether that has always been Pop's MO. I would guess so. Because we seem this season to be such obvious "counter-punchers" as GSH has dubbed us, it seems like the Spurs have perhaps altered their process. The "counter punch" character of the team did not strike me nearly so much in years past.
    I think it is a new thing. Spurs didn't have the luxury in previous years.

    However, the Spurs typically try to start peaking at the time of the Rodeo trip. So crazy as it sounds, I do expect the Spurs to play better towards the end of the regular season.

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    I think it is a new thing. Spurs didn't have the luxury in previous years.

    However, the Spurs typically try to start peaking at the time of the Rodeo trip. So crazy as it sounds, I do expect the Spurs to play better towards the end of the regular season.
    Interesting that you call it a luxury.

    Not crazy. We all hope so. They will need to as their schedule is considerably more demanding from now on in.

    I expect that Pop will do more experimenting with the lineup during the RRT this year. I am hoping he comes to the realization that splitting LMA and Duncan is the way to go most of the time.

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    Interesting that you call it a luxury.

    Not crazy. We all hope so. They will need to as their schedule is considerably more demanding from now on in.

    I expect that Pop will do more experimenting with the lineup during the RRT this year. I am hoping he comes to the realization that splitting LMA and Duncan is the way to go most of the time.
    Actually, embarrassment of riches. Too many good players that can manufacture their points.

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    Interesting that you call it a luxury.

    Not crazy. We all hope so. They will need to as their schedule is considerably more demanding from now on in.

    I expect that Pop will do more experimenting with the lineup during the RRT this year. I am hoping he comes to the realization that splitting LMA and Duncan is the way to go most of the time.
    He will no doubt have TD play some backup center in the playoffs, but the man will start. He is our main shot blocker and our defense actually works by sending players his way.

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    He will no doubt have TD play some backup center in the playoffs, but the man will start. He is our main shot blocker and our defense actually works by sending players his way.
    Yes, he is the heart and soul of the defense still. So by every indication, LMA is not the guy who will replace Timmy in that regard, meaning we will need to find somebody before next season who has the heart and soul to become the heart and soul of our defense.

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    Pops admitted to not studying teams before games.

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    Wish we could afford Horford. He's a free agent this summer.

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    We're 36-6, why the do anything to up the rotations/chemistry? Danny needs to shoot, Danny needs to play...

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