Bundy ranch situation in Nevada

[boutons_deux]

Genius I tell you....

... disturbing federal property, their crimes add up.

[boutons_deux]

Rural Oregon’s Lost Prosperity Gives Standoff a Distressed Backdrop

Times were once very good out here on the high desert of east-central Oregon, and a place like Burns — remote and obscure until a group of armed protesters took over a nearby federal wildlife sanctuary early this month — was full of civic pride and bustle. In their heyday, Harney County and its largest town, Burns, were economically important in a way that now seems unthinkable in the rural West.

These days, cities like Portland, Salt Lake City and Boise, Idaho, are gobbling up more of the jobs than ever, especially the good ones. Half the jobs in Oregon, for example, are now clustered in just three counties in and around Portland, according to a study by Headwaters Economics, a nonprofit research group in Bozeman, Mont. Almost two-thirds of Utah’s jobs are along the Wasatch Front, which runs from Salt Lake City to Provo.

And isolated, rural counties like Harney — with 7,126 people in an area larger than Massachusetts — are too far away from those urban centers to catch the economic uplift, the study said. So the population grows ever older, poorer and less educated, and opportunities continue to dry up: The county has 10 percent fewer jobs than it did in 1979, according to state figures.

The pattern of poverty has shifted nationally as well. In the four decades since the late 1960s, poverty rates fell or remained stable across the Northeast, South and Midwest — but rose significantly across the West, a Pew Research Center study said in 2014.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/01/19...drop.html?_r=0

Not the Fed's fault America is still urbanizing/de-ruralizing. Repugs LIE to the rurals that EVERYTHING is the Fed's fault.

[boutons_deux]

same, maybe worse, in Maine and elsewhere

In Maine, Local Control Is a Luxury Fewer Towns Can Afford

CARY PLANTATION, Me. — Up here, near the end of Interstate 95, a single main road ridged with stately conifers runs past the odd house that at night casts an orange glow over the snow. There is no school. No police department. Not even a stoplight.

But there are property taxes. And some residents say the taxes’ growth has pushed this community of about 200 to the brink. To save Cary Plantation, they say, they want to dismantle it.

“What do you do, what does the town do, when they can’t pay their bills? Do we go bankrupt? Do we lose our homes?” asked Diane Cassidy, a former nursing assistant. “There was no answer, other than deorganization.”

Ms. Cassidy is leading an effort to dissolve the local government and join the Unorganized Territory, a vast swath of forest and townships in north, central and eastern Maine run by a partnership between the state and the counties. Last month, residents here voted, 64 to 0, to continue the process.

At a time of rising municipal costs, local governments around the country are looking for ways to rein in tax bills, pursuing privatization, the consolidation of services, mergers and even bankruptcy.

But in northern Maine, as operating costs have increased, the economy has stagnated and the population has aged and dwindled, a handful of struggling towns have pursued the unusual process of eliminating local government entirely.

In the West, citizens are protesting to constrain government power. And over all, Americans tend to resist ceding their local authority. But these communities are handing their governing power over to the state and the county.

“Knowing how dependent towns are in Maine on the property tax, they may have just reached a point where they’ve decided, ‘We’d be better off just not existing as a town,’ ”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/17/us...er=rss&emc=rss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgqVCJpRqWQ

[pgardn]

Using a metal ladder next to a transforming station is not a good idea.
Putting a big bag of sal er (human body) up in the air connected to a nice ground around high potential differences is a horrible idea.

These guys are going to kill themselves.
That was seriously stupid for these high tech freedom fighters.

Thanfully no one was hurt.

[pgardn]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xspo3Xxb8No

This happens even when there are no cameras present.
Notice how far it is arcing thru the AIR at the end. Put a body up there. Attached to the ground via metal


If those guys are going around fiddling with this stuff the power company is obliged to shut the station down cutting off electricity to various parts of Oregon. Let's see how that goes over with the population these stations serve.

[boutons_deux]

Using a metal ladder next to a transforming station is not a good idea.

electricity is way too high tech for these rural inbreds

[RandomGuy]

Holy , 29 pages on these knuckleheads?

These guys are a gift to satire writers everywhere.

[RandomGuy]

Using a metal ladder next to a transforming station is not a good idea.
Putting a big bag of sal er (human body) up in the air connected to a nice ground around high potential differences is a horrible idea.

These guys are going to kill themselves.
That was seriously stupid for these high tech freedom fighters.

Thanfully no one was hurt.

http://www.darwinawards.com/

I would not wish harm on anyone, but neither would I be overly sad. Some people, just make the kinds of decisions that weed themselves out of reality.

[RandomGuy]

The militia is an easy target and useful tool to distract from the real problem of the out of control BLM and the tactics they are using to force people off of their land.

ribe Member: 'We Would Have Been Dead By Now' If We Acted Like Oregon Militants

BURNS, Ore. -- The armed protesters who seized remote federal property in Oregon should leave, the Burns Paiute Tribal Council urged Wednesday. The occupiers claim the federal land rightfully belongs to the mostly white population of eastern Oregon, but Harney County was largely Paiute territory prior to white settlement.

On a foggy Wednesday morning, some of the tribe's nearly 420 members gathered at the top of a snow-packed hill on the Paiute reservation to discuss their concerns about the outsiders. The doors of the meeting center were plastered with signs warning people not to bring firearms inside.

"As a Native, if we were to go out there and fight back like they are, we would have been dead by now," said Carla Teeman, a social services assistant at the tribe.

"They are desecrating one of our sacred traditional cultural properties," said Charlotte Rodrique, the tribal chair. "They are endangering our children and the safety of our community."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...ushpmg00000003

Force which people off which land?

[pgardn]

http://www.darwinawards.com/

I would not wish harm on anyone, but neither would I be overly sad. Some people, just make the kinds of decisions that weed themselves out of reality.

The cameras at the transforming station appeared to be in the middle of nowhere... A good place to have a transforming station. The only reason I can see for putting cameras up is possibly security of power systems. Will they assault a sewage treatment plant next?

[baseline bum]

Thanfully no one was hurt.

???

It would be funny as to see one of those assholes die there and then they blame the feds for it.

[CavsSuperFan]

Maybe this was posted already but I just heard about it Sunday…Bundy protesters sent sex toys for supplies request…

http://cw33.com/2016/01/13/sex-toys-...-to-junk-mail/

[boutons_deux]

Maybe this was posted already but I just heard about it Sunday…Bundy protesters sent sex toys for supplies request…

http://cw33.com/2016/01/13/sex-toys-...-to-junk-mail/

already posted, and somebody else sent a 55 gallon drum of lube. see above

[baseline bum]

I think I'm going to send them a copy of Obama's book.

[boutons_deux]

Get the Government's Hands Off My Foster Kid Subsidies




Here's a disturbing update from the Oregon militant standoff. Robert “LaVoy” Fini , one of the most colorful militants, says that Arizona child protective services has removed four foster children, apparently all boys, from his care because of his involvement in the standoff.

There's no direct evidence offered to show that the removals are tied to the standoff, though the timing - all coinciding with the standoff - makes it a reasonable surmise. And there's zero evidence to back up Fini 's claim that the federal government pressured state authorities to remove the children. Indeed, he doesn't claim to have any evidence, just his su ion, which for him seems to equal evidence.

Two points got my attention about this story.

First, having one parent away from the home for a significant period of time committing a number of high profile federal crimes would seem like at least a plausible reason to remove the children. This doesn't seem to occur to Fini .

The second point comes further down in the article. From a mix of tabulations by Oregon Public Broadcasting and Fini 's own account, Fini and his wife apparently get almost all or all of their income from being foster parents. His ranch in Chino Valley, Arizona is break even at best and appears to generate no income.

Now, foster parents, especially those who care for troubled children, are truly doing God's work. And they are en led to compensation, both for the work involved in being a parent and for the substantial out of pocket expenses involved in raising children. But it seems at least ironic and perhaps more than ironic that this paragon of getting the government off our backs and radical, near-absolute individualism supports himself and his wife off state subsidies. I've also always thought that there are at least possible adverse incentives created when foster parents get all their income from being foster parents. (That said, placing foster children is, I know, incredibly challenging work. And not knowing enough about the practice, I certainly don't begrudge state authorities placing children with parents who seem, after careful scrutiny, able to provide a caring home environment - even if it's their sole or near sole source of income.)

It's certainly possible that Fini and his wife provide a great experience and place of emotional support for these boys. That's what he says and maybe he's right. But participation in anti-government extremist activity and various federal crimes seems to merit at least a close look at whether this is a healthy environment for these children, especially if they are taking in as many as 8 or 10 at a time and it's their only source of income.

Regardless, Fini 's claim that this is another example of the government persecution of him - removing foster children, who come with

state subsidies which are his only source of income,

because he has abandoned them to go commit crimes against the federal government in another state -

just illustrates painfully and comically what a nonsense bubble these jokers live in.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/...-kid-subsidies

hmm, state subsidies are his only source of income? aka, a moocher, a taker, an anti-John Galt.

tough on the kids getting shuttled around.

[Splits]

I think I'm going to send them a copy of Obama's book.

Better make that an audio book...

[TheSanityAnnex]

Maybe this was posted already but I just heard about it Sunday…Bundy protesters sent sex toys for supplies request…

http://cw33.com/2016/01/13/sex-toys-...-to-junk-mail/

it's a couple posters over at AR15.com sending the dildos

[boutons_deux]

Oregon militants use traditional Jewish horns as Christian ‘battle trumpets’ in insanely weird performance






Oregon militants posted footage of themselves online blowing what appear to be traditional Jewish “spiritual warfare” horns in a short video asking for support,Gawker reported.

The video was attributed to Blaine Cooper, the alias used by Stanley Blaine Hicks, with a description reading,

“THE BATTLE TRUMPET HAS BEEN SOUNDED TIME TO RISE! CALL TO ACTION SEND IN THE TROOPS TO STAND WITH US IN BURNS OREGON!”

The footage shows two men blowing on instruments resembling the shofar, a traditional Jewish horn made out of a ram horn, typically used to announce the end of the fasting period in Yom Kippur. Several Biblical passages also make reference to the horn being used to mark the start of a war.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/oreg...e+Raw+Story%29

[TheSanityAnnex]

more lube and a couple of sex fists shipped out last night. These guys are sending hundreds of dollars of sex toys. Also some of those Amazon gummy bears that make you your pants

[baseline bum]

more lube and a couple of sex fists shipped out last night. These guys are sending hundreds of dollars of sex toys. Also some of those Amazon gummy bears that make you your pants

[boutons_deux]

GOP chair of Natural Resources Committee seeks public lands giveaway disguised as environmental bill

Two Republican Utah congressmen have introduced a deceptive public lands initiative designed to open a million acres of public land to private interests while pretending to protect other lands under a bogus “wilderness” designation where weakened environmental regulations would make that label a very unfunny joke.

For 40 years, extremists have been eager to take over federal lands. It started with the Sagebrush Rebellion of the 1970s, which was reincarnated in the 1980s and ‘90s as the so-called Wise Use movement, which was and is a network of right-wing grassroots and corporate front groups focused on attacking environmentalists and promoting free-for-all resource exploitation.

Among its exemplars have been James G. Watt, the corrupt secretary of Interior appointed by Ronald Reagan, and funders like the cult fascist Rev. Sun Myung Moon, founder of the Washington Times.

The movement’s anti-government, anti-environmentalist rhetoric has sparked its own cohort of stormtroopers whose latest action is on display in the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, where ever more militants are showing up every day to join the armed takeover and demand that the land be given back to its original owners.

They mean themselves, of course, not the Northern Paiutes whose presence there dates back several thousand years. That land has been in federal hands since it was pried from the Paiutes nearly 140 years ago.

The Wise Use movement has sought to open all but a small portion of federal lands to unfettered clear-cutting, mining, grazing, and the driving of off-road recreational vehicles. The rhetoric of today’s movement, polished in The Wise Use Agenda, a 1989 book edited by Alan Gottlieb, talks a good game to the uninitiated. But it dismisses environmental concerns.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/0...28Daily+Kos%29

[boutons_deux]

Ammon Bundy and Members of Oregon Protest Arrested After Confrontation With FBI


One person is dead and several others, including Oregon occupation leader Ammon Bundy, were arrested during a confrontation with the FBI and state police on Tuesday night, according to reports.

Bundy and a few of his followers were stopped en route to a community meeting in John Day, located around 70 miles away, KATU-TV reported.

Shots were fired when the law enforcement officials made the stop, the station said. Ammon Bundy, Ryan Bundy, Brian Cavalier, Shawna Cox, and Ryan W. Payne were then arrested.

One person died, and it is unclear who fired first, according to KATU.

Their arrests came on the 25th day of their occupation. Bundy and about three dozen other people occupied a wildlife refuge starting earlier this month after two local ranchers were sent to prison for setting fires on federal land.

Oregon’s governor last week said she’s tired of the protest in the southeastern corner of the state.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1951...h-fbi-reports/

[baseline bum]

[baseline bum]

Get the Government's Hands Off My Foster Kid Subsidies




Here's a disturbing update from the Oregon militant standoff. Robert “LaVoy” Fini , one of the most colorful militants, says that Arizona child protective services has removed four foster children, apparently all boys, from his care because of his involvement in the standoff.

There's no direct evidence offered to show that the removals are tied to the standoff, though the timing - all coinciding with the standoff - makes it a reasonable surmise. And there's zero evidence to back up Fini 's claim that the federal government pressured state authorities to remove the children. Indeed, he doesn't claim to have any evidence, just his su ion, which for him seems to equal evidence.

Two points got my attention about this story.

First, having one parent away from the home for a significant period of time committing a number of high profile federal crimes would seem like at least a plausible reason to remove the children. This doesn't seem to occur to Fini .

The second point comes further down in the article. From a mix of tabulations by Oregon Public Broadcasting and Fini 's own account, Fini and his wife apparently get almost all or all of their income from being foster parents. His ranch in Chino Valley, Arizona is break even at best and appears to generate no income.

Now, foster parents, especially those who care for troubled children, are truly doing God's work. And they are en led to compensation, both for the work involved in being a parent and for the substantial out of pocket expenses involved in raising children. But it seems at least ironic and perhaps more than ironic that this paragon of getting the government off our backs and radical, near-absolute individualism supports himself and his wife off state subsidies. I've also always thought that there are at least possible adverse incentives created when foster parents get all their income from being foster parents. (That said, placing foster children is, I know, incredibly challenging work. And not knowing enough about the practice, I certainly don't begrudge state authorities placing children with parents who seem, after careful scrutiny, able to provide a caring home environment - even if it's their sole or near sole source of income.)

It's certainly possible that Fini and his wife provide a great experience and place of emotional support for these boys. That's what he says and maybe he's right. But participation in anti-government extremist activity and various federal crimes seems to merit at least a close look at whether this is a healthy environment for these children, especially if they are taking in as many as 8 or 10 at a time and it's their only source of income.

Regardless, Fini 's claim that this is another example of the government persecution of him - removing foster children, who come with

state subsidies which are his only source of income,

because he has abandoned them to go commit crimes against the federal government in another state -

just illustrates painfully and comically what a nonsense bubble these jokers live in.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/...-kid-subsidies

hmm, state subsidies are his only source of income? aka, a moocher, a taker, an anti-John Galt.

tough on the kids getting shuttled around.

that's the got who got killed

[SpursforSix]

Wtf...they just hopped in a car to go to a meeting? What kind of occupiers are they?