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    Could we be as successful?

    Now this is assuming Boban can play at the same level he does now against starting centers. Same minutes Duncan plays now, but doesn't finish games. Maybe more the Splitter role actually.

    How much slower is he than Duncan?
    Could he be dominant?

    Just looking at the options for next year, could we afford someone else? Any ideas?

    I'm a forward thinker sorry, but it's a slow day. Just wanted to know people's thoughts on the subject.

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    Spurs are going to suffer mightily, especially on defense when Tim is gone. Tim is still grading out as a top flight defender eve with his flaws (unable to defend perimeter any more)

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    I think Boban's sample size is too small for us to know. He has offensive potential based on his size, nice touch and what looks like a good basketball IQ. There's no way he's going to match Timmy's defense (still among the best in the league) but he could be a passable replacement if Timmy retires. Likely some of his time goes to West (if David stays).

    What's still amazing is how damn good Tim is (especially on D) at 39. Hope he never retires.

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    Could we be as successful?

    Now this is assuming Boban can play at the same level he does now against starting centers. Same minutes Duncan plays now, but doesn't finish games. Maybe more the Splitter role actually.

    How much slower is he than Duncan?
    Could he be dominant?

    Just looking at the options for next year, could we afford someone else? Any ideas?

    I'm a forward thinker sorry, but it's a slow day. Just wanted to know people's thoughts on the subject.
    I donīt know, Duncan might be the best positional defender big the league ever seen. Thatīs something.

    For sure Boban could replace something, but not entirely what Tim brings to the table.

    Clearly, this Team will still be good without Ginobili and Duncan, a starting lineup of Parker-Green-Leonard-Aldridge-Boban and a bench like Mills-Simmons-Anderson-West-Diaw is still scary. Just not the same.

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    Duncan is having an elite defensive season, it would be hard to envision Boban even approaching that, tbh..

    I know everybody is all over Boban and Simmons, but we have barely even seen them play against opposing starters for long stretches or serious games, so far..playing short stretches vs. starters is entirely different than playing real minutes vs. opposing starters and teams that understand your tendencies and strengths/weaknesses..

    A lot of players in this league have had great stretches where they catch teams "by surprise"..

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    Yeah, denfensively we would definitely suffer. Duncan's ability to not foul and his timing are eLite. I think that and his positioning are what makes him so good at that end. Boban is not really known for his defense just his length really but I think with more experience he could be passable.

    Do y'all think it would be like dejuan Blair era bad defense with him or better?

    I think offensively, we could be really dominant against most matchups.

    Reason I say boban starting and not west is because it is known that Aldridge doesn't want to play center, but do you think that could change in a year?

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    Duncan is having an elite defensive season, it would be hard to envision Boban even approaching that, tbh..

    I know everybody is all over Boban and Simmons, but we have barely even seen them play against opposing starters for long stretches or serious games, so far..playing short stretches vs. starters is entirely different than playing real minutes vs. opposing starters and teams that understand your tendencies and strengths/weaknesses..

    A lot of players in this league have had great stretches where they catch teams "by surprise"..
    Simmons has played some meaningful minutes, but Boban has barely played any meaningful minutes. So far what he does in mostly garbage time shows some promises, but it's too much stretch to even think about him replacing Tim, who still leads DRPM and defensive rating for the whole NBA.

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    If Duncan retires after this season, we better hope R.C. can work some magic and convince Al Horford to sign here or trade for Marc Gasol or something, or our team will drop considerably. As people above are mentioning, even with how immobile and un-athletic Duncan looks at times, he's still a great rim protector and the anchor of our D.

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    If Duncan retires after this season, we better hope R.C. can work some magic and convince Al Horford to sign here or trade for Marc Gasol or something, or our team will drop considerably. As people above are mentioning, even with how immobile and un-athletic Duncan looks at times, he's still a great rim protector and the anchor of our D.
    Al Horford is who I want too. How could we possibly afford him? Magic indeed. We could trade Danny lol

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    Boban joining the blitz at 6pm tonight. 1250am

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    bad joke of a post. Boban is an interesting 3rd option at best.

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    Boban has potential. He can replace some if what Timmy does since TIm hasn't been good outside of the paint in a long time. The system and Kawhi mask those flaws to a large degree. Obviously Tim didn't start out that slow, he's adapted and has experience knowing guys tendencies and he has impeccable timing. Boban doesn't have that experience and we don't know whether he will learn to detect tendencies, recognize situations and anticipate well enough. It remains to be seen, but he has potential bc of his length and when he is in position he's able to really contest because of his size. He will get a raise that will require him to be in the rotation. You can't overpay a big to keep him as your 5th option and I think Boban, like Anderson, is not really getting much time right now bc we are a deep team, nit because he can't play. He's depositing his dues this year. He should have a larger role next season.

    As for Lamarcus, he's been great as our starting PF, but I am not convinced he could anchor our defense as a C like Timmy has. He has not done that earlier in his career and may not have the timing and instincts Timmy has either. Who do you slot next to him? D.West? Pop doesn't have him defending in the perimeter as a 4 for a reason. D.West has slowed down. He's played most of the time as a 5. I suppose it could work, but it will not be our best defensive lineup.

    I think Boban/LMA has potential. We will not be the same quality team. We will still be a good team, but there will be growing pains for guys in new roles.

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    bad joke of a post. Boban is an interesting 3rd option at best.
    True... True.

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    It really is like asking if Salieri can take over for Mozart when he decides to go off the ranch for good.
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    It's a legit question. What is not legit is assuming Timmy is staying put. Someone is going to have to take up the role and it is legit to wonder how much Boban or someone else will be able to provide.

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    It really is like asking if Salieri can take over for Mozart when he decides to go off the ranch for good.
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    From garbage time to team captain? Unlikely.

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    No man. He plays really good. He just doesn't have the durability to play that many minutes without breaking down during the season. He is too big and too tall.

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    Duncan's role is off cause he's Duncan of course. Meant mainly minutes. But I think splitters minutes would be more accurate. Wasn't it like 20-25 mpg? You don't think he could start and play 20 mins? Anybody remember splitters rotations?

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    Duncan's role is off cause he's Duncan of course. Meant mainly minutes. But I think splitters minutes would be more accurate. Wasn't it like 20-25 mpg? You don't think he could start and play 20 mins? Anybody remember splitters rotations?
    I think he could do 20 minutes. He's currently doing 15 at times.

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    There's a huge difference between blocking a shot and defending the rim. Tim defends the rim better than anyone I've ever seen, and that has to include help defense and rotations. Boban could block shots, no doubt, but he's been playing ball long enough to have established himself as an elite defender and he hasn't.

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    No. Duncan is a defensive juggernaut while Boban is an offensive beast. They're totally different players.

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    There's a huge difference between blocking a shot and defending the rim. Tim defends the rim better than anyone I've ever seen, and that has to include help defense and rotations. Boban could block shots, no doubt, but he's been playing ball long enough to have established himself as an elite defender and he hasn't.
    Boban is a defender in the NBA. What are you watching?

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