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    lol keep "discussing Islam"

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    So your contention is Christians have never beaten up any gays ever and are above reproach. Only Muslims do these things ever.

    OK.
    Where's this similar Christian city?

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    lol keep "discussing Islam"
    lol keep "dodging discussing Islam"

    “There are police employees that are afraid of talking about these things in the context of the immigration debate today,” he said. (Varg Gyllander, a spokesperson for Stockholm police)








    what things are the police afraid to talk about in the context of the immigration debate?

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    Where's this similar Christian city?
    Look, you made your belief clear. You will never even acknowledge any Christian has ever beaten up any gay dude in the history of the world.

    You can't.

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    Look, you made your belief clear. You will never even acknowledge any Christian has ever beaten up any gay dude in the history of the world.

    You can't.
    Of course Christians have beat up gays, that isn't the issue, although that's what you are trying to turn it into to deflect from the fact that Muslims moved into town and phobic crimes went up 80%.

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    Of course Christians have beat up gays, that isn't the issue, although that's what you are trying to turn it into to deflect from the fact that Muslims moved into town and phobic crimes went up 80%.
    Not at all, I simply asked rmt how she reconciled Christianity with all the things she listed.

    You made the jump about deflection.

    I'm against these attacks. You somehow want me to be for them. It doesn't matter to me what religion the perpetrator follows. That is the only thing that matters to you. You wouldn't give a about it otherwise.

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    Not at all, I simply asked rmt how she reconciled Christianity with all the things she listed.

    You made the jump about deflection.

    I'm against these attacks. You somehow want me to be for them. It doesn't matter to me what religion the perpetrator follows. That is the only thing that matters to you. You wouldn't give a about it otherwise.
    How can you be against them and downplay them at the same time?

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    How can you be against them and downplay them at the same time?
    I'm against these attacks. You somehow want me to be for them. It doesn't matter to me what religion the perpetrator follows. That is the only thing that matters to you. You wouldn't give a about it otherwise.

    What part do you not understand?

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    I'm against these attacks. You somehow want me to be for them. It doesn't matter to me what religion the perpetrator follows. That is the only thing that matters to you. You wouldn't give a about it otherwise.

    What part do you not understand?
    Are you denying you try and downplay these attacks?

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    Of course Christians have beat up gays, that isn't the issue, although that's what you are trying to turn it into to deflect from the fact that Muslims moved into town and phobic crimes went up 80%.
    What is your proposal for how to handle the issue of Islam?

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    Is there a recent report of a mob of Christians beating up gays in a pub that I'm missing?
    There's this

    "...The church’s pastor, Rick Sosbe, said a church member texted him a picture of the vandalism as he was preparing to go to the church for his regular office duties.

    “I was angry. I was very sad and I thought, ‘Just why?’ To me, it seems so interesting that they’re saying on there that you’ll burn – in other words saying ‘You’ll burn in ,’ I’m sure – and quoting scripture. Is that what Christianity – right-wing, fundamentalist Christianity – has come to?” he said.

    Sosbe and his partner, Michael Rehn, got married June 30, four days after the U.S. Supreme Court legalized gay marriage in all states.

    He believes Tuesday’s vandalism and the flag incident are a reaction to his and the church’s increased presence in the media because of the legalization of

    We've occupied this building for 12 years, and this is the first (time) something’s happened,” he said.

    Sosbe said he plans to discuss buying some security cameras with the church’s board within the next couple of days.

    According to an incident report from the Richmond County Sheriff’s Office, damages were estimated at $2,500. Deputies could not lift any fingerprints from the dried paint........"

    http://m.chronicle.augusta.com/news/...aced#gsc.tab=0

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    No bathrooms. No heat. Aboard the decrepit refugee 'cattle cars.'




    Passengers cram into the fetid trains carrying refugees toward northern Europe.

    "They are packing people into those trains like they are cattle cars. Every single inch of space is taken," says Leesteffy Jenkins, a bakery owner who recently volunteered in a transit camp in Macedonia. "It smells, there are no bathroom facilities, no heat."

    And yet, Jenkins says, refugees are "desperate" to board the trains.

    "No matter how sick, they will not stop, and they will not be separated from their family groups, because they're so scared."

    Jenkins slipped onto a refugee train on a recent night as it ferried passengers from a transit camp in Gevgelija, Macadonia to Serbia.


    She found her way aboard even though humanitarian aid workers are strictly forbidden on the trains.


    "There was one woman who had twin babies. The doctors from Red Cross and the doctors on our team both said to her, 'This one baby, if you don't get it to the hospital it could die in the next few hours.' It was so critically ill. Her other twin, her other baby, a two-year old, was fine. She had to make the choice, which child am I going to save here, because they're so scared of these borders closing, that she refused to go to the hospital. She just got on the train with that very very sick child in this cattle car. And we heard a few days later that a baby did die when it got off the train on the other side in Serbia."


    Jenkins says another woman boarded a train with serious kidney problems.


    She has blogged extensively about her volunteer assignment with NuN Civil Association in Gevgelija and her work with the Americans for Refugees in Crisis. She owns the Violette bakery in Cambridge, Massachusetts.


    In December, she stuffed several large suitcases to the brim with boots, shoes and socks and closed shop for several weeks. She was determined to go where the need was greatest.


    "Everyone wants to go to Lesbos, where you can pull babies out of the water," she says. "The Balkans are not as 'sexy' as the islands. They get far less volunteers."


    In Macedonia, refugees are processed, and then board decrepit trains bound for Serbia. Jenkins hopes to return to the camp next July.


    "If everyone went to a refugee camp, we would not be having the political debates that we're having. In fact, the refugee camps are magnets. People go and they come back again and again. People quit their jobs."


    "You just cannot not go back once you've gone," she says.

    http://www.pri.org/stories/2016-01-2...ed-cattle-cars


    Thanks,Repugs. ing up, maiming, killing Ms of innocent people for BigOil.



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    There's this

    "...The church’s pastor, Rick Sosbe, said a church member texted him a picture of the vandalism as he was preparing to go to the church for his regular office duties.

    “I was angry. I was very sad and I thought, ‘Just why?’ To me, it seems so interesting that they’re saying on there that you’ll burn – in other words saying ‘You’ll burn in ,’ I’m sure – and quoting scripture. Is that what Christianity – right-wing, fundamentalist Christianity – has come to?” he said.

    Sosbe and his partner, Michael Rehn, got married June 30, four days after the U.S. Supreme Court legalized gay marriage in all states.

    He believes Tuesday’s vandalism and the flag incident are a reaction to his and the church’s increased presence in the media because of the legalization of

    We've occupied this building for 12 years, and this is the first (time) something’s happened,” he said.

    Sosbe said he plans to discuss buying some security cameras with the church’s board within the next couple of days.

    According to an incident report from the Richmond County Sheriff’s Office, damages were estimated at $2,500. Deputies could not lift any fingerprints from the dried paint........"

    http://m.chronicle.augusta.com/news/...aced#gsc.tab=0
    You forgot to paste the part of the article where the Christian mob beat them up.

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    You forgot to paste the part of the article where the Christian mob beat them up.
    Because that makes the crime committed by bible beaters agajnst the gays irrelevant.

    No harm no foul

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    And just because you edited the quote doesn't mean that it wasn't another dodge. What are we up to now 20? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and go with dodge #19. Try again.
    ChumpDumper has brought in Blake to help him dodge.

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    Because that makes the crime committed by bible beaters agajnst the gays irrelevant.

    No harm no foul
    vandalism=assault?

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    What is your proposal for how to handle the issue of Islam?
    It's a bigger issue in Europe for obvious reasons. The Atlantic and Pacific oceans are pretty good at weeding out the riff raff. A good start would be nixing any proposal by the current administration to bring in uneducated, uncultured, hardcore fundamentalist religious economic migrants with zero marketable job skills from a part of the world we've been bombing the out of. That would be a bad idea, in my opinion.

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    Because that makes the crime committed by bible beaters agajnst the gays irrelevant.

    No harm no foul
    False equivalency. The Islamic terrorist body count for 2016 is already in the 100's. No ideology on this planet is comparable.

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    No, but the bible calls for death to the gay so there's that. What's your proposal on what to do about Islam?

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    It's a bigger issue in Europe for obvious reasons. The Atlantic and Pacific oceans are pretty good at weeding out the riff raff. A good start would be nixing any proposal by the current administration to bring in uneducated, uncultured, hardcore fundamentalist religious economic migrants with zero marketable job skills from a part of the world we've been bombing the out of. That would be a bad idea, in my opinion.
    That doesn't address Islam itself.

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    False equivalency. The Islamic terrorist body count for 2016 is already in the 100's. No ideology on this planet is comparable.
    What do you want to do about Islam?

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    ChumpDumper has brought in Blake to help him dodge.
    I'm wondering why this thread keeps getting bumped up and saw a post that had potential for an lol.

    But hey you brought a jpeg for help tho. Neat.

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    That doesn't address Islam itself.
    Islam itself isn't a problem, it's the tiny percentage of Muslims who were inflamed by the Repugs invading and ing up their countries, causing the maiming and deaths of their friends, family, compatriots.

    Had USA not invaded Iraq, you wouldn't be talking about "Islam itself", about which nobody can "address", other than to keep killing them, which is how America rules its empire.

    Just like most Christians don't follow exactly ALL the OT craziness, most Muslims refuse to follow the craziness in their sacred literature.

    Repugs created this Middle East disaster, and I don't see any path forward. The insanity is the Repugs want to keep repeating their errors and expecting different results.

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    Yeah, it's not 1970
    thank God, no.

    Glad we both agree that subjugation of women in the USA is recent, not ancient history.

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    Presently? Sure it is.
    You're wrong. It's not peculiar to any religious group or nationality, but rather common, even now. Even in the US.

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