Are the Broncos for real?

[HI-FI]

He's an overrated control freak who throws his teammates under the bus, and the media can't stop guzzling his manchowder. If it's any consolation, I also can't stand that whiny got Brady and his dink-and-dunk passes.

and yet you make every excuse in the world for Lebron.

Manning, first QB to lead to 2 teams to 4 SBs, yeah he's overrated.

[Clipper Nation]

are there any QB's you like besides Flacco?

I have mad respect for Rodgers, too.

[Clipper Nation]

and yet you make every excuse in the world for Lebron.

Manning, first QB to lead to 2 teams to 4 SBs, yeah he's overrated.

LeBron has never lost in the first round.

Meanwhile, Fivehead's still rocking that all-time one-and-done record... biggest choke artist in the history of professional sports

[spurraider21]

the interesting stat is that brady hasn't beaten manning in the postseason since 2005... manning now 3-2 all time h2h in playoffs

[HI-FI]

LeBron has never lost in the first round.

Meanwhile, Fivehead's still rocking that all-time one-and-done record... biggest choke artist in the history of professional sports

Yeah because LeGM always faced the gauntlet of the East
not to mention the two sports aren't comparable.

I just realized that PM has had a different HC for each of his SB visits.

PM comes back after four neck surgeries while Lebron hasn't been the same since a broken AC exposed him.

[Clipper Nation]

Yeah because LeGM always faced the gauntlet of the East
not to mention the two sports aren't comparable.

I just realized that PM has had a different HC for each of his SB visits.

PM comes back after four neck surgeries while Lebron hasn't been the same since a broken AC exposed him.

Fivehead has played in nothing but garbage divisions his whole career and has choked playoff games to the likes of Herm Edwards/Chad Pennington (41-0), Norv Turner, Mark Sanchez, and Struggle Wilson

Fivehead's average playoff performance is like if LeBron lost to the 38-44 Bucks or the 40-42 Celtics in the first round. If LeBron did that once, his legacy would be over and the hate would be unrelenting for the rest of his career. Fivehead pulls the NFL equivalent almost every year and still gets called the GOAT by the media and fans.

Fivehead can barely even throw a football with nothing but pure, unadulterated HGH coursing through his veins

[Brazil]

the interesting stat is that brady hasn't beaten manning in the postseason since 2005... manning now 3-2 all time h2h in playoffs

I think somebody needs to help me out tbh... I must really suck at football

How in a QB beat another QB ? They don't play against each other... There is no head to head... it's a QB playing with an offense team against a defensive line up... I can grant you the "opponent QB playing good put pressure on the other" but that's quite silly to imagine dude with tons of experience be influenced by that. Most of the time, when Defense is on, QBs are studying playbook and don't even look at action.

Lots of silliness on that tbh

[Thebesteva]

Fivehead has played in nothing but garbage divisions his whole career and has choked playoff games to the likes of Herm Edwards/Chad Pennington (41-0), Norv Turner, Mark Sanchez, and Struggle Wilson

Fivehead's average playoff performance is like if LeBron lost to the 38-44 Bucks or the 40-42 Celtics in the first round. If LeBron did that once, his legacy would be over and the hate would be unrelenting for the rest of his career. Fivehead pulls the NFL equivalent almost every year and still gets called the GOAT by the media and fans.

Fivehead can barely even throw a football with nothing but pure, unadulterated HGH coursing through his veins

I agree hes a choke artist and Im not getting my hopes up on beating Carolina...but you gotta hand it to the guy for doing enough on the offensive end to win. He's physically done as an athlete but hes really pulling through with what he says

[spurraider21]

I think somebody needs to help me out tbh... I must really suck at football

How in a QB beat another QB ? They don't play against each other... There is no head to head... it's a QB playing with an offense team against a defensive line up... I can grant you the "opponent QB playing good put pressure on the other" but that's quite silly to imagine dude with tons of experience be influenced by that. Most of the time, when Defense is on, QBs are studying playbook and don't even look at action.

Lots of silliness on that tbh

It matters when there was always a hot debate on who the better QB was and you get them on the same field in a pressure filled atmosphere. While they never directly compete on the field, if one guy chokes with interceptions while the other leads a clutch game winning drive, there are narratives that develop.

Brady/Manning is the only real qb-qb rivalry of this era tbh.

[DAF86]

I think somebody needs to help me out tbh... I must really suck at football

How in a QB beat another QB ? They don't play against each other... There is no head to head... it's a QB playing with an offense team against a defensive line up... I can grant you the "opponent QB playing good put pressure on the other" but that's quite silly to imagine dude with tons of experience be influenced by that. Most of the time, when Defense is on, QBs are studying playbook and don't even look at action.

Lots of silliness on that tbh

When Brady was ahead everybody pointed out to their head to head record (even now with their head to head record in the regular season) and I didn't see you making this argument. So now that the thing is reversed Bradystans have to swallow this pill, tbh.

[lefty]

I think somebody needs to help me out tbh... I must really suck at football

How in a QB beat another QB ? They don't play against each other... There is no head to head... it's a QB playing with an offense team against a defensive line up... I can grant you the "opponent QB playing good put pressure on the other" but that's quite silly to imagine dude with tons of experience be influenced by that. Most of the time, when Defense is on, QBs are studying playbook and don't even look at action.

Lots of silliness on that tbh

Muricans hyping up nonsense BS

It's good for ratings and talk show debates

Same BS with goalies in hockey

Yes football QB and NHL goalie are important positions, but I cring when I hear that X goalies is 12-2-0. Sure he has to make huge saves, but does he score the ing goals etc ?

[spurraider21]

Muricans hyping up nonsense BS

It's good for ratings and talk show debates

Same BS with goalies in hockey

Yes football QB and NHL goalie are important positions, but I cring when I hear that X goalies is 12-2-0. Sure he has to make huge saves, but does he score the ing goals etc ?

well, the W/L for a goalie makes sense if he's not playing every single game. if a team is 30-10 but the goalie has only played in 31 games, it makes sense to have his W/L reflect only the games he's played in. i dont think its supposed to mean he is solely responsible for those wins and losses in his record

[Brazil]

It matters when there was always a hot debate on who the better QB was and you get them on the same field in a pressure filled atmosphere. While they never directly compete on the field, if one guy chokes with interceptions while the other leads a clutch game winning drive, there are narratives that develop.

Brady/Manning is the only real qb-qb rivalry of this era tbh.

There is a rivalry because they are playing same era, both are great, I get it... but it does not make any sense at all to take specifically their records when both teams are playing to add argument in a way or another... their "head to head" games don't matter more than any other games they play. I mean I also get media talking about 3/2 because media sells stuff that don't exist, this is their job but anyone following a bit football understand the head to head concept for two QBs is useless. Talk about Broncos are now 3/2 against Pats in POs last 10 years ok why not but yeah Manning is not 3/2 against Brady

Oh and not trying to be a smart ass here, there is a rivalry but Brady career and records are quite >> at Manning or I smoke something... Therefore on top of not being consistent their htoh record means quite ... it's not like it's a toss up between them...

[Brazil]

When Brady was ahead everybody pointed out to their head to head record (even now with their head to head record in the regular season) and I didn't see you making this argument. So now that the thing is reversed Bradystans have to swallow this pill, tbh.

now you are making up stuff ?

Did I point out somewhere their head to head record ? Who was pointing out dat stuff ? show me... if they are now 3/2 I guess you are talking about a time when Brady was 2/1 or 2/0 or something probably well before I even started to watch NFL... smh..

Right now you are the one making this dumb argument that makes no sense whatsoever not mine, you are the one who needs to deal with this .

Oh and I'm a casual fan of NFL not passionate thinking I need to take a pill because Manning 3/2 is quite laughable...

[Brazil]

Muricans hyping up nonsense BS

It's good for ratings and talk show debates

Yes... makes me wonder why a decent man like DAF is falling for dat stuff...

[DAF86]

now you are making up stuff ?

Did I point out somewhere their head to head record ? Who was pointing out dat stuff ? show me... if they are now 3/2 I guess you are talking about a time when Brady was 2/1 or 2/0 or something probably well before I even started to watch NFL... smh..

Right now you are the one making this dumb argument that makes no sense whatsoever not mine, you are the one who needs to deal with this .

Oh and I'm a casual fan of NFL not passionate thinking I need to take a pill because Manning 3/2 is quite laughable...

And who was talking about you taking the pill? I'm talking about Brady fans that bragged about the head to head record for many years. I don't know if you are one of them. Although you do seem to be ing way too much about this, tbh.

[DAF86]

Oh and not trying to be a smart ass here, there is a rivalry but Brady career and records are quite >> at Manning or I smoke something... Therefore on top of not being consistent their htoh record means quite ... it's not like it's a toss up between them...

You smoke something 'cause Manning has Brady beat on every stat and on individual accolades (and by a very considerable margin I must say). The only thing Brady has over Manning are rings; but those are, like the head to head matchups you are dissmissing here, team accomplishments.

[lefty]

well, the W/L for a goalie makes sense if he's not playing every single game. if a team is 30-10 but the goalie has only played in 31 games, it makes sense to have his W/L reflect only the games he's played in. i dont think its supposed to mean he is solely responsible for those wins and losses in his record

I agree with you when it comes to the statistical aspect, but in the hockey "world", the goalie is basically seen as the person responsible for Ws or Ls

Just ask Montreal goalies

Patrick Roy had 3 straight bad games during the 92-93 season and the fans wanted to ship him out, preferring his ty backup

Carey Price - as a rookie - was the scapegoat for the Habs ting the bed in the 2nd round of the playoffs, even though he had a great regular season - as a rookie

hockey culture

[Brazil]

You smoke something 'cause Manning has Brady beat on every stat and on individual accolades (and by a very considerable margin I must say). The only thing Brady has over Manning are rings; but those are, like the head to head matchups you are dissmissing here, team accomplishments.

obviously rings are team accomplishments but it seems to me one of key contributor of those rings is the QB in particular for a team like pats that are not winning relying on their defense, so yeah I'd say number of rings is quite relevant when comparing two QBs

then you are making a confusion about my argument... I don't dismiss the htoh because win or loss is team accomplishment I dismiss htoh results of two players who never see the field together... Manning performance has 0 influence on Brady performace during a bronco / pats game like manning has 0 influence when brady plays against the seahawks... so you can say Broncos Defense own Brady but Manning does not own Brady htoh

but keep on crawling

[Brazil]

I don't know if you are one of them. Although you do seem to be ing way too much about this, tbh.

As I said I dislike Manning but Idgaf tbh... I've seen him play like 15 times probably as much as Brady

I'm ing about you being dishonest and using a dumb argument to feed I guess your agenda of Manning > Brady. Their htoh brings nothing in that discussion

[spurraider21]

Patrick Roy

[Avante]

Fivehead has played in nothing but garbage divisions his whole career and has choked playoff games to the likes of Herm Edwards/Chad Pennington (41-0), Norv Turner, Mark Sanchez, and Struggle Wilson

Fivehead's average playoff performance is like if LeBron lost to the 38-44 Bucks or the 40-42 Celtics in the first round. If LeBron did that once, his legacy would be over and the hate would be unrelenting for the rest of his career. Fivehead pulls the NFL equivalent almost every year and still gets called the GOAT by the media and fans.

Fivehead can barely even throw a football with nothing but pure, unadulterated HGH coursing through his veins

That coming from a guy who would start Derek Anderson over Cam Newton, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh yes, HGH helps out a guy who has been a stud QB since HS, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DAF86]

obviously rings are team accomplishments but it seems to me one of key contributor of those rings is the QB in particular for a team like pats that are not winning relying on their defense, so yeah I'd say number of rings is quite relevant when comparing two QBs

then you are making a confusion about my argument... I don't dismiss the htoh because win or loss is team accomplishment I dismiss htoh results of two players who never see the field together... Manning performance has 0 influence on Brady performace during a bronco / pats game like manning has 0 influence when brady plays against the seahawks... so you can say Broncos Defense own Brady but Manning does not own Brady htoh

but keep on crawling

You know in what else QBs are key contributors? In winning games. So, even though they never face each other during games, the head to head matchup between QBs does bare an importance.

[DAF86]

And not a peep about how you were talking out of your ass with the stats and accolades thing? Ok.

[Thebesteva]

Yeah because LeGM always faced the gauntlet of the East
not to mention the two sports aren't comparable.

I just realized that PM has had a different HC for each of his SB visits.

PM comes back after four neck surgeries while Lebron hasn't been the same since a broken AC exposed him.