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    ...the Spurs? You always see the franchise comparisons of how successful both have been. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate the Patriots or anything, but most of the time, I see in the media the "Spurs are the Patriots of the NBA". If anything, it should be the other way around. I think the sustained excellence of the Spurs in the Tim Duncan era is greater than the Patriots in the Tom Brady era. What do you think?

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    I think almond milk is a scam

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    No, I like Manning more than Brady ...

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    Having graduated from Alabama and being a Spurs fan I have always hated having my favorite college football and NBA team compared to the Patriots. They all have a long period of dominance that's true but neither the Spurs nor the Crimson Tide languish under a cloud of cheating, distrust and breaking the rules. People don't like it when you win but you don't here people fear that the Spurs or Alabama are actively cheating to do it. That plus I am a Ram's fan (Los Angeles and St Louis) and I will never believe that they didn't cheat to win that Super Bowl against us after the commissioner decided to burn all evidence in the Spygate investigation. (must have been pretty damn bad for a commissioner to do that). I had a anybody but Brady at ude about this playoffs.

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    Peyton is my fave player, and the way he conducts himself is awfully Tim like. It feels like Spurs/Warriors in the superbowl. Cam is like Curry/GS with all their dancing and celebrations and what not. I hope the Broncos can humble them a bit.

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    Pats are cheaters, Spurs aren't.

    But no, I like Manning, he is very likeable guy where as Brady is an asshole. Manning is one of those guys who is easy to root for even if you aren't a fan of the team he is playing on.

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    As one of the few lucky enough to be both a Spurs fan and a Patriots fan, I can say I think it's a great comparison. For a while there I'd have put Duncan's Spurs, Brady's Patriots and Brodeur's Devils in the same category, but that franchise cratered out already. Patriots fans have the luxury of knowing how ridiculous people sound when they mention cheating, mostly because the triviality of the things they were accused of is constantly overlooked but understand why the envious cling to the notion that their sustained excellence is ill-gotten. The way they run their organization with a roster-wide team-first winning-is-why-we're-here at ude is very similar to the Spurs. The selflessness with which the franchise defining superstars operate (from the way the play to the way they negotiate) is very similar. The flurry of championships followed by a drought with near misses followed by another championship is obviously similar. Nothing the Patriots have been accused of has ever had any legitimately meaningful impact on the outcome of a play much less the outcome of any game. It's understandable that they're hated and because they're hated those things get overblown, but that irrationality aside, the franchises are like twins in a number of ways and it's been a pretty amazing to ride along with both of them during this stretch.

    Think about how you rolled your eyes when people would somehow try to discount the Spurs first 4 championships by calling them "boring". As a Spurs fan you'd be like a) you're wrong and likely poorly informed if you genuinely think that but b) it doesn't matter to me if you know you're wrong or not because I like when they win championships more than I like you agreeing with me. That's a Pats fan when listening to bleatings of "cheaters."
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    Robert kraft is a bigger asshole. He wants to own football. Imagine the spurs but with Adam silver as the owner. We'd win more than five chips if that were the case.

    I hated when bill parcels quit, joined the rival jets, and then the patriots hired his ugly looking assistant.

    I hated them for being unable to build the team around Drew Bledsoe and bailing on both him and Pete Carroll due to the owner being unable to deliver a running game to compliment the teams talent.

    I hate them for beating the rams. It's like the clippers beating the spurs last year if spurs were still running the beautiful offense. The world wanted more Kurt Warner not more Brady and the world wanted more 2014 spurs.


    Really, the analogy ceased to have meaning when the spurs won in 2014 using a totally different style of play. The patriots are Tom Brady with a bunch of motivated scrubs. If you remove Brady (who is likely to be an all time great qb) you have scrubs....If the spurs hadn't recovered from Tim's decline it'd be similar. But I don't see Brady playing into his 40s and I don't see that team ever changing styles. That the spurs were able to move past the decline of their all time great player, means they are a true elite team rather than just a lucky one.

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    Pats are cheaters, Spurs aren't.

    But no, I like Manning, he is very likeable guy where as Brady is an asshole. Manning is one of those guys who is easy to root for even if you aren't a fan of the team he is playing on.
    This. Plus I'm a Dolphins fan and despise the Pats on general principle.

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    The Patriots had a very different style of offense last year than they did in their earlier dynastic years. Tom Brady was not a statistical marvel when they won their 1st 3 and the offense has pivoted 2nd half of his career and became the team's strong suit. It's actually another way they're the same.

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    Also, Rob Gronkowski is without question the best tight end of all time, the gap between him and the 2nd best player at the position might wind up being the largest gap of all time in that league by the time he's done. Not exactly a scrub.

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    Belichick/Brady always reminded me far more of Phil/Kobe than Pop/Duncan.

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    Pats are cheaters, Spurs aren't.

    But no, I like Manning, he is very likeable guy where as Brady is an asshole. Manning is one of those guys who is easy to root for even if you aren't a fan of the team he is playing on.
    Belichick/Brady always reminded me far more of Phil/Kobe than Pop/Duncan.

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    The patriots are Tom Brady with a bunch of motivated scrubs. If you remove Brady (who is likely to be an all time great qb) you have scrubs....
    Rob Gronkowski is without question the best tight end of all time, the gap between him and the 2nd best player at the position might wind up being the largest gap of all time in that league by the time he's done. Not exactly a scrub.
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    Taking a 5'10 QB from Kent State in the 7th round and turning him into a Pro Bowl WR as Belichick did with Julian Edelman is another Spurs-esque move similar to say plucking Danny Green out of the D-League and turning him into a championship-level starter or maybe taking Manu in the 2nd round and making him a Hall-of-Famer as a 6th man.

    TB/BB is surely also a lot like Phil and Kobe in that both pairs won a championships with with the only constant in the rosters being the player/coach combo. Football being football, the Patriots don't and can't have the kind of continuity the Best Big Three Ever have had.

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    Pats are cheaters, Spurs aren't.
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    As I say, it's amusing to observe that opinion, especially when I get to be on the winning side for both teams as a fan regardless. I'm certainly not here to argue with fellow Spurs fans. Just adding the unique perspective that I can provide. I can assure you, it's much more rewarding to be a Spurs and Patriots fan than it is to be a Spurs fan and a Patriots hater.

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    A little bit of that, another bit because Brady is the Kobe of the NFL (he's great but gets overrated because of team success) and because the Patriots are a bunch of dislikeable cheating gots, tbh.

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    The comparison has always been ridiculous. I rooted for the Broncos, but it was because of DeMarcus Ware. When the Pats came back, I found myself rooting for overtime.

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    A little bit of that, another bit because Brady is the Kobe of the NFL (he's great but gets overrated because of team success) and because the Patriots are a bunch of dislikeable cheating gots, tbh.
    You can thank Adam Vinatieri for that.

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    No. I am a Manning fan. Always root for the Broncos when he is playing. Used to live in Colorado and learned to like him a lot.

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    Because Brady is a got .

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