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    So how many folks have seen their grocery bills cut in half compared to a few years ago with half price grains and $1 diesel?

    Seem to remember the price of corn was to blame for that.

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    Not cut in half, but yeah, the retail price of good is generally down: http://www.bls.gov/regions/mid-atlan...west_Table.htm

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    Really? The graphs for beef pork and eggs are all significantly higher than 2012. What prices are you finding?

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    Really? The graphs for beef pork and eggs are all significantly higher than 2012. What prices are you finding?
    Severe drought plays into the price as well.

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    Severe drought plays into the price as well.
    Huh? I'm referencing food prices and how they are not tethered to raw prices. Severe drought appears NOT to play in the cost of food.

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    Huh? I'm referencing food prices and how they are not tethered to raw prices. Severe drought appears NOT to play in the cost of food.
    The drought has absolutely driven up the cost of beef. Are you actually denying that?

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    The drought has absolutely driven up the cost of beef. Are you actually denying that?

    Drought has been over for three complete years. Why is the processed foods still significantly higher than the peak of the drought?

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    I noticed produce has gone up. Seems like apples have doubled in price in the past few years

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    I noticed produce has gone up. Seems like apples have doubled in price in the past few years
    Healthcare costs are a runaway train. Had a conversation with a few old timers and they seemed to think with cheap energy prices that healthcare was the reason prices on goods haven't come down.

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    Drought has been over for three complete years. Why is the processed foods still significantly higher than the peak of the drought?
    Three years? tell that to California and Texas...

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/ranchers...rds-1431370873

    http://www.cattlenetwork.com/news/ma...ef-prices-high

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    I noticed produce has gone up. Seems like apples have doubled in price in the past few years
    Apples and maybe Oranges..but potato...lettuce...tomato....green peppers....spinach....corn.....not so much...

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    Healthcare costs are a runaway train. Had a conversation with a few old timers and they seemed to think with cheap energy prices that healthcare was the reason prices on goods haven't come down.
    Healthcare is cheaper under the ACA than without it.....in the last 3 years there have been record low gains in HC prices...

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    Transportation costs are down which you could soon see reflected in prices of non-durable goods...

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    Healthcare costs are a runaway train. Had a conversation with a few old timers and they seemed to think with cheap energy prices that healthcare was the reason prices on goods haven't come down.
    Sounds like you've been talking to some old folks who don't take kindly to Kenyan Muslim Socialists.

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    U should read your links. It refererences the high price of grain compared to 2009.
    Its actually cheaper than 2009 now.

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    Sounds like you've been talking to some old folks who don't take kindly to Kenyan Muslim Socialists.
    Not sure. One was my broker and the other one ran a crew of cement workers for government contracts. Gotta be racist,no?

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    Healthcare is cheaper under the ACA than without it.....in the last 3 years there have been record low gains in HC prices...
    Im meeting with an agent tomorrow. Two kids wife and me. Hopefully we can keep it under $1k per month. Played $14 k last year premium going up to $17,5 this year. Not sure if its $2500 or $3000 deductible. The only people I know that went down had subsidized insurance or high risk. Considering going without insurance.

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    Really? The graphs for beef pork and eggs are all significantly higher than 2012. What prices are you finding?
    No . That's what I thinking. I used to grab a bag of beef jerky now and then. Now it's like $6.

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    Im meeting with an agent tomorrow. Two kids wife and me. Hopefully we can keep it under $1k per month. Played $14 k last year premium going up to $17,5 this year. Not sure if its $2500 or $3000 deductible. The only people I know that went down had subsidized insurance or high risk. Considering going without insurance.
    We've got some kind of hybrid thing. It's like $700 a month for me, wife, and 15 year old. We're out of pocket for the little stuff but are covered 100% for anything major. No 80/20 split after deductible is met.

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    Two weeks ago I was talking to a hospital administrator over beers and was asking him how can a health share plan require no tobacco use. He said under aca he can decide not to hire someone based on tobacco use or weight.

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    Apples and maybe Oranges..but potato...lettuce...tomato....green peppers....spinach....corn.....not so much...
    Tomatoes have gone up a lot

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    Can the op explain his point? Is his argument that big food is not passing on cogs savings onto consumers and pocketing the profit instead?

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    Obama made TSA's avocados more expensive.

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    The cost of food off the farm is small fraction of the retail price "on the table". Middlemen and commodity traders are the main costs.

    That's why BigFood makes dead, industrial, food-like, pathogenic substances in packages. There's more profit there.
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