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    Bernie would never get elected. Are you kidding me? Trump is actually more moderate than the other republican candidates. Moderates know that. I'm surprised you don't. As far as Hillary goes I've already told you.
    I know Trump holds some moderate views, but his extremist statements will overshadow that by far. There is a reason I say Trump is playing the GOP base like a cheap fiddle.

    Again, if you want to sweep "Bernie would never get elected" you miss the populist theme of the election. One just has to wonder which stream of populist will come out to vote.

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    Trump is the textbook example of an opportunist.
    I think the fact that he isn't going to be in the debate, pretty much proves he isn't serious. I think he is hoping to lose, despite himself, because he is doing far better than he thought he would or wanted to.

    His remark "I could shoot someone, and they would still vote for me" would be pretty telling of his mindset/thinking. Even he is shocked at how easily manipulated the GOP base is.

    He has gotten enough attention to his brand to meet his own perceived need, although one could be argued that he has effectively damaged it, given the recent counterparty dives ures from some of his joint overseas ventures.

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    TPR interviewed some Texans, naturally it was hilarious


    A lady, probably well off, said inequality was not a problem, because there had always been inequality

    A guy said Obama destroyed the US military

    etc, etc.

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    I know Trump holds some moderate views, but his extremist statements will overshadow that by far. There is a reason I say Trump is playing the GOP base like a cheap fiddle.

    Again, if you want to sweep "Bernie would never get elected" you miss the populist theme of the election. One just has to wonder which stream of populist will come out to vote.
    It's just my opinion, but I think the word "socialist" has too many negative connotations to give someone like Bernie a chance any time soon.

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    It's just my opinion, but I think the word "socialist" has too many negative connotations to give someone like Bernie a chance any time soon.
    people don't ing know what "socialism" is. In general, Americans are not only politically disengaged, disaffected (an strategy objective of the VRWC), but ing stupid, eg, all Repugs voters, esp supporters of the current Repug Klown Kar riders.

    tell us which of Bernie's policies are "socialist" https://berniesanders.com/issues/

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    My understanding is that Bernie Sanders self identifies as a "democratic socialist" so I don't really need to identify specific policies do I?

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    My understanding is that Bernie Sanders self identifies as a "democratic socialist" so I don't really need to identify specific policies do I?
    absolutely, total ignorance of Bernie's issues is bliss for you rightwingnuts, and Trump fellators.

    anyway, what policies would your "understanding" of a generic "democratic socialist" promote, according to you?

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    Trump's Sexist Attacks Aside, Megyn Kelly Is A Shill For Conservative Misinformation

    Megyn Kelly is garnering another wave of misplaced praise, benefiting from Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump's latest attacks on her. But outside of the debate scene, Kelly's role on Fox News is little more than to shill for conservative misinformation.

    Journalists and pundits across the political spectrum are stepping up to defend the Fox News anchor after Trump labeled her a "lightweight journalist" leading up to Fox News' January 28 GOP primary debate, which he declined to participate in. Kelly's defenders have called out the sexism in Trump's attacks while lauding her as a "real journalist willing to stick her neck out to defend the vulnerable." But in doing so, they have bought into the distorted persona she has carefully crafted for herself -- that of the credible journalist, distinct from other Fox figures who are more obviously partisan.

    That image has been bolstered by a series of glowing profiles of Kelly that describe her as a "take-no-prisoners newswoman" who "isn't afraid to throw hardballs at Republicans" and have called her "the brightest star at Fox News" who "transcends politics with her skillful skewering of windbags of both parties." Fox helped Kelly reinforce that image in Fox's first GOP primary debate, where Kelly posed a series of tough questions to the candidates -- most notably challenging Trump on his history of sexism -- and persuaded many of the 24 million viewers that she is a serious journalist. Fox's January 28 GOP debate will likely provide yet another opportunity for Kelly to amplify this deceptive image by deviating from her usual bigotry and right-wing misinformation to ask tough questions while all eyes are on her.

    The media is right to call out the sexism of Trump's attacks on Megyn Kelly, but to argue that she is a serious, legitimate journalist while doing so misses the mark.

    Outside of Fox's debate scene, Kelly has repeatedly
    used her authority to prop up conservative misinformation from The Kelly File's anchor desk.

    In the first two weeks of 2016, she spent over 1 hour and 22 minutes promoting Michael Bay's myth-filled Benghazi movie as "the gripping new film that may pose a threat to Hillary Clinton's hopes for the White House."

    Kelly regularly hosts the leader of an anti-LGBT hate group, and

    has a long history of offensive, discriminatory comments about minorities.


    Kelly has also used her primetime Fox show to push falsehoods about Planned Parenthood, most recentlyasking whether the grand jury indictment of two members of the group that released deceptively edited smear videos to attack the organization was a "political hit job."

    Kelly once told Charlie Rose she's "not an opinion maker," yet she has repeatedly advocated for conservative causes and spread misinformation -- and has gotten away with it because there are journalists willing to call her credible.


    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/01...is-a-sh/208240

    MG is just your garden-variety Fox news bimbo.




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    Hasn't Bernie mentioned some high income tax for the rich (77)? So boutons, you're okay with Danny Green ($10 million) paying a tax rate of 77%?

    http://www.vox.com/2016/1/22/1081479...ders-tax-rates

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    Hasn't Bernie mentioned some high income tax for the rich (77)? So boutons, you're okay with Danny Green ($10 million) paying a tax rate of 77%?

    http://www.vox.com/2016/1/22/1081479...ders-tax-rates
    77% is marginal rate ABOVE $10M so Danny wouldn't pay 77%

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    77% is marginal rate ABOVE $10M so Danny wouldn't pay 77%
    You don't think he makes money on those commercials? He does them for free? He doesn't invest his money and earn interest/dividends/capital gains? What about the 73% on $2 million to $10 million?

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    Cher goin IN


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    Cher goin IN

    Wow she actually tweeted something coherent. The world is ending.

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    Trump was smart. Nothing to gain by being in that debate. Polls prove it. Dem's are gonna be skerred now.

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    Trump was smart. Nothing to gain by being in that debate. Polls prove it. Dem's are gonna be skerred now.
    are dem's skerred of dem's?

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    Trump was smart. Nothing to gain by being in that debate. Polls prove it. Dem's are gonna be skerred now.
    Yep. It was a good move. Cruz was the target instead and didn't look too good.

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    Hasn't Bernie mentioned some high income tax for the rich (77)? So boutons, you're okay with Danny Green ($10 million) paying a tax rate of 77%?

    http://www.vox.com/2016/1/22/1081479...ders-tax-rates
    That's IF Bernie got everything he wanted....with a GOP controlled Congress not so much....but still...

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    That's IF Bernie got everything he wanted....with a GOP controlled Congress not so much....but still...
    my big picture is that Hillary won't try much, won't do much to FIX America, because the Repugs will continue to obstruct EVERYTHING from the Dems.

    And she will, like Bill did, sign some Repug nasty bills that American harder and deeper.

    Same with Bernie, totally obstructed, but his advantage is that he would veto a lot more ty Repug bills than Hillary would.

    Repugs will probably retain the House, and thereby the spending, and continue up the Federal govt even more with bad-faith, destructive austerity.
    Last edited by boutons_deux; 02-01-2016 at 03:30 PM.

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    Why in the world would someone like Danny Green work so hard to have his money given away to pay for someone who sits at home and gets free healthcare, free college tuition, free ....? Remember he has a very limited time to earn his money to be secure for the rest of his life. Bernie's plan is the destruction of anyone even TRYING to get ahead. Everyone will just sit back, do nothing and get FREE. And the really rich people will just move elsewhere. How long will that system work?

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    "Bernie's plan is the destruction of anyone even TRYING to get ahead."

    bull ing

    America economic mobility now ranks below several European countries.



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    boutons, please explain to me, how, if Bernie's plan is implemented, anyone is motivated to work hard and get ahead? What do you think will happen to innovation if the profit motive is severely hampered with taxes? Do you think people will risk what money they have left over after taxes on new products, new businesses, new investments?

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    boutons, please explain to me, how, if Bernie's plan is implemented, anyone is motivated to work hard and get ahead? What do you think will happen to innovation if the profit motive is severely hampered with taxes? Do you think people will risk what money they have left over after taxes on new products, new businesses, new investments?
    you're so ing naive. countries with higher income tax rates don't have the bull problem you imagine.

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    boutons, please explain to me, how, if Bernie's plan is implemented, anyone is motivated to work hard and get ahead? What do you think will happen to innovation if the profit motive is severely hampered with taxes? Do you think people will risk what money they have left over after taxes on new products, new businesses, new investments?
    RMT doesn't only fear Isis, she also fears Bernie Sanders stealing the profit motive from the American people.

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    boutons, please explain to me, how, if Bernie's plan is implemented, anyone is motivated to work hard and get ahead? What do you think will happen to innovation if the profit motive is severely hampered with taxes? Do you think people will risk what money they have left over after taxes on new products, new businesses, new investments?
    Danny Green can deduct his declining skills as a business expense and still come out ahead....

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