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    I think they were undefeated without Duncan until the Dubs game.

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    I think they were undefeated without Duncan until the Dubs game.
    Yes, but the games I thought were strategically selected by Pop. In hindsight, they might have not.
    I think as long as Lamarcus brings it we are in a good position to win games.
    Our historic defense will probably not be so historic for a few games now.

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    That's my feeling. Timmy forcing LaMarcus to take up the reins.

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    Dont forget we have a player who started 19 games last season for the Spurs. Bonner may not be anyone's first pick to play but he knows what he can do and has been a great help to West and Boban learning the system. Coach Bonner can give us minutes with corporate knowledge. West has made the transition with ease. Boban has had a learning experience that is different from Europe.

    Free Boban!!
    Free West!!!
    Free Bonner!!!!
    Free the Spurs and let them run!!!!

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    Pop trolling:

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    I had Been posting about Tim's condition during game threads, because he just seemed off to me. His persona wasn't the same ol Tim. Maybe this Injury is what it was about. I really hope he is good to go later in the season, but it's actually really good for the team to play without him to learn more about themselves. I miss Timmys passing with the first unit. Spurs won't go far against the elite teams missing easy buckets all the Time and without Tim, there were so many missed opportunities without a playmaker.

    Make it through the season Tim, carry us to one more!

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    Pop trolling:
    That was a great answer.

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    A little bersome, but it looks good. I like how they integrated it with his Punisher brace. Not sure if it's really functional though, maybe Patty uses it.

    That's awesome but incredibly depressing at the same time..

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    Probably won't play until after the AS break. Rest up, Timmy.

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    Probably won't play until after the AS break. Rest up, Timmy.
    That's what I'm thinking. If he sits out until after the AS break, he will have had a whole month off, with the exception of 21 minutes against the Lakers.

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    Tim's fine, I guarantee you that. The Spurs have huge breaks between games this past two weeks. And after the next week the All-star break. Tim is just resting up for the Rodeo Road trip. The whole knee thing is the fact the Spurs have to provide the league with some evidence of an injury if he is missing a bunch of games.

    This gives guys like KA, Butler, Boban more playing time to develop in the system. And another reason I think Pop and Duncan are doing this is so LMA will start self actualizing as a player. LMA led the Spurs to a crushing defeat of the Rockets. Spurs are going to need LMA to play like that if they are going to get past the Warriors and OKC. This also requires Kawhi to step up as a leader on the floor as well.

    Outside of the Warriors, the Spurs are looking good post Duncan, which I don't even really want to think about at this point. 8-1 without Duncan this season.
    +1

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    No different than older pitchers getting shut down until mid season so his arm's not dead come October. Except in this case, it's not like the team even has to fight for a playoff spot like in baseball where it's tighter to make the postseason. Worst case at this point is the 3 seed ... 9 up on the Clippers and 13 on Memphis in the loss column. Assuming they go .500 (would be very unlikely) Spurs still get to 57 wins, while the Clippers would have to go 27-9 to catch them.

    Rest him up and anyone else who needs it. The team is deep enough so that it can rest multiple guys and remain compe ive.

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    I did notice during the during either the LA game or his previous that it looked like he had trouble standing from the bench. It was during a highlight dunk by either Boban or Simmons, and normally Duncan would get up to cheer the guys on, and does so by putting each hand on the leg of the guys next to him to help post against to raise himself, but in the particular instance I'm thinking of her put both hands on legs and started trying to get up, but just kind of gave up and sat back down.

    Could be nothing, could even be my imagination. But I do remember seeing it and wondering if he was okay.

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    No different than older pitchers getting shut down until mid season so his arm's not dead come October. Except in this case, it's not like the team even has to fight for a playoff spot like in baseball where it's tighter to make the postseason. Worst case at this point is the 3 seed ... 9 up on the Clippers and 13 on Memphis in the loss column. Assuming they go .500 (would be very unlikely) Spurs still get to 57 wins, while the Clippers would have to go 27-9 to catch them.

    Rest him up and anyone else who needs it. The team is deep enough so that it can rest multiple guys and remain compe ive.
    We are a 90% lock for the 2 seed. There is a 5% chance we could move up or down to the 1 or 3. Both would take extraordinary things occurring.

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    An acute attack of pessismism on the part of one fan. Devastating.
    No pessimism, just realism that he is a soon to be 40 year old man with bad knees playing NBA basketball. As much as we want him to be he won't be around forever.

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    If Dunker is out for the rest of his career, say with a microfracture or an irreparable tear, how would ST react tbh?

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    No different than older pitchers getting shut down until mid season so his arm's not dead come October.
    Rest him up and anyone else who needs it. The team is deep enough so that it can rest multiple guys and remain compe ive.
    See Jack Morris. 11 inning shutout, I believe, game 7 -vs- Atlanta with the Twins. EPIC last stand for an old man.

    In a postseason performance for the ages, the 36-year-old hurler threw 10 innings of shutout baseball against the Braves, as the Twins won the World le on a 10th-inning single by Gene Larkin that scored Dan Gladden. Morris was named the World Series MVP for his fantastic performance, and joined fellow pitcher Sandy Koufax as the only players to win the Babe Ruth Award twice. He holds the record for most wins by a Twin in a single postseason, with four acquired in 1991.
    10 inning shutout...awesome world series. I remember it well.
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    He's 40 with bad knees. I don't think he can come back from that if he's hurt now.
    I expect him to retire after this season if the injury is somewhat serious and his production drops.

    He won't get to Kobe levels of play.


    It's just a feeling of course...
    This turn of events has Duncan hanging up his boots for good at the end of this season unfortunately. He’s bad knee has pretty much been dead for a decade, now his good knee is causing issues. Rest rehab rest rehab rest rehab, come back a few weeks before the end of the regular season to get in game shape for the playoffs and try get every ounce of energy and strength he can muster to play playoff basketball.

    2003 all over again: An aging great David Robinson was on his last legs (last back really) and the young MVP Powered the old man and the 2 newbies tony and manu to the le.

    2016 same as 03: An aging great Tim Duncan on his last legs just as David Robinson was, tony and Manu are slowing down but are now being backed up by All Star and MVP DPOY Candidate Kawhi Leonard, one of the best PF’s of the last 10 years in LMA, and a list of other guys that makes this squad a great TEAM.

    Tim Duncan would never announce an early retirement so he can have a farewell tour like Kobe. One day you’ll look and he’ll be gone, just a memory and unfortunately that day may come in June. It will only start to sink in again in November when the team starts a new season without Tim Duncan for the first time in 20 years.
    I had Been posting about Tim's condition during game threads, because he just seemed off to me. His persona wasn't the same ol Tim. Maybe this Injury is what it was about. I really hope he is good to go later in the season, but it's actually really good for the team to play without him to learn more about themselves. I miss Timmys passing with the first unit. Spurs won't go far against the elite teams missing easy buckets all the Time and without Tim, there were so many missed opportunities without a playmaker.

    Make it through the season Tim, carry us to one more!
    Hindsight, so many guys had already been seeing g the signs of Timmy's decline during the season.

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    Hindsight, so many guys had already been seeing g the signs of Timmy's decline during the season.
    We get it. You're not a Duncan fan and are practically foaming at the mouth at the prospect of him retiring.

    Next season, when this team inevitably doesn't win the championship, what will you (among others), blame it on then?

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    I am a team fan and it was noticeable that he wasn't right since midseason. We won't win every season, but you try to get better each year.

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    I am a team fan and it was noticeable that he wasn't right since midseason. We won't win every season, but you try to get better each year.
    I used to think like you so I understand where many are coming from. I too am a team fan and used to think this way. However, I have changed over the past few years. I am fully ok just enjoying DPG being on the team and still being a very compe ive team (winning a lot in the regular season with a good shot a WCF). I'm willing to trade off not "improving" for more years of watching DPG play together.

    But I would understand fully if the team moves on (but they won't unless Tim/Manu say they are gone, not SA pushing them out)

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    We get it. You're not a Duncan fan and are practically foaming at the mouth at the prospect of him retiring.

    Next season, when this team inevitably doesn't win the championship, what will you (among others), blame it on then?
    So it wasnt just me who was noticing a lack of due respect from SAGirl. We should completely sacrifice a season and not even get a high draft choice for it if TD wants to play ball. My favorite player since Bird.

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    I used to think like you so I understand where many are coming from. I too am a team fan and used to think this way. However, I have changed over the past few years. I am fully ok just enjoying DPG being on the team and still being a very compe ive team (winning a lot in the regular season with a good shot a WCF). I'm willing to trade off not "improving" for more years of watching DPG play together.

    But I would understand fully if the team moves on (but they won't unless Tim/Manu say they are gone, not SA pushing them out)
    She's not a team fan, she's an Anderson fan.

    That's what her and a few others don't get. I understand that they probably no longer have a chance at a championship with them, but they definitely won't without them. The intangibles they bring to the table are irreplaceable.

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    I'm cool with y'alls principled stands if you don't melt down with the inevitable playoffs loss.

    Also, I hope the spurs save us the sausage making here. Either announce the resigning (option in) or announce the trade. Don't need the team to explain their choice. They won't. It's not their practice. And we have already discussed the issue. This isn't the Lakers where they lie to you about their outlook to sell tickets. We're not there yet

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    She's not a team fan, she's an Anderson fan.

    That's what her and a few others don't get. I understand that they probably no longer have a chance at a championship with them, but they definitely won't without them. The intangibles they bring to the table are irreplaceable.
    I don't think that's fair. I think she is a team fan and she is not alone in hoping the Spurs keep pursuing getting better and being a true contender. I would even be fine with that and not mad at all because I am a team fan and that would be exciting.

    I'm just saying for this rare moment, I am willing to put aside the team for the players because the team can still be enjoyable and compe ive (not a Kobe situation at all). If it were like Kobe, I'd say GTFO, but it's not.

    I also think of course it will be impossible to replace Tim/Manu (and TP when that comes) with what they have meant to the franchise and with how talented they were. Unfortunately Tim Duncan's do not grow on trees so we should expect a much more normal franchise up & down because we don't have another Tim anchor to usher in that level of success. However, with where they are at now? I have no doubt basketball wise the team could improve over their level of play.

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