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    It will be hilarious if this actually blows up. It's too late for Biden or Brown to step in and save the day...the primary deadlines have already passed in most states. As much as Boos manlove for Bernie is adorable, and no matter how much free stuff Bernie promises, I just don't think the country is ready yet to elect a socialist. 19.6 trillion in tax hikes that hit across the board are just too big for voters to swallow.

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    it's not free stuff, it's paid for by taxes.

    free stuff is your adorable dubya and head putting their bull wars off the books AND cutting taxes, tripled the national debt.

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    it's not free stuff, it's paid for by taxes.

    free stuff is your adorable dubya and head putting their bull wars off the books AND cutting taxes, tripled the national debt.
    You like it because you think your free will be paid for by someone elses taxes.

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    You like it because you think your free will be paid for by someone elses taxes.
    the tax avoiders/evaders deserve to be hit hard. They looted American and the planet enough.

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    the tax avoiders/evaders deserve to be hit hard. They looted American and the planet enough.
    You realize Bernie is raising EVERYBODYS taxes, don't you?

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    If Barry hated shillary as much as you guys are saying, he wouldn't have the Department of State batting for her. Don't forger that department is also under the executive.

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    You realize Bernie is raising EVERYBODYS taxes, don't you?
    So it isn't free . We still have to pay for it.

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    +1

    but for Obamacare. A kluge, but probably the best kluge that could be managed for an intractable problem.
    eventually, it will become unaffordable, and the mandate will push people into the shadows.

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    You realize Bernie is raising EVERYBODYS taxes, don't you?
    Do you think he would get that past a Republican congress?

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    in his second term, Congress might not be Republican anymore.

    GOP is coming apart at the seams in this cycle. The elite and the party faithful are not of the same kidney.

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    The GOP has been hijacked by a cunning, mediagenic Nationalist who's not really all that conservative: Donald J. Trump

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    Washington (CNN)After misplacing about 7,000 pages of do ents for several months, the State Department is now asking a federal judge for more time to release former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's emails, blaming the blizzard currently slamming Washington.

    Lawyers for the department asked Judge Rudolph Contreras on Friday if State can release some of Clinton's emails on February 29, one month after it was initially supposed to turn over the last of the do ents. That would also result in many emails not becoming public until after the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire and South Carolina primaries.



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    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...l?intcmp=hpbt4

    At least one of the emails on Hillary Clinton's private server contained extremely sensitive information identified by an intelligence agency as "HCS-O," which is the code used for reporting on human intelligence sources in ongoing operations, according to two sources not authorized to speak on the record.

    Both sources are familiar with the intelligence community inspector generals January 14 letter to Congress, advising the Oversight committees that intelligence beyond Top Secret -- known as Special Access Program (SAP) -- was identified in the Clinton emails, as well the supporting do ents from the affected agencies that owned the information and have final say on classification.

    According to a December 2013 policy do ent released by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence: The HSC-0 compartment (Operations) is used to protect exceptionally fragile and unique IC (intelligence community) clandestine HUMINT operations and methods that are not intended for dissemination outside of the originating agency.

    It is not publicly known whether the information contained in the Clinton emails also revealed who the human source was, their nationality or affiliation.

    Dan Maguire, former Special Operations strategic planner for Africom, told Fox News the disclosure of sensitive material impacts national security and exposes U.S. sources.

    "There are peoples lives at stake. Certainly in an intel SAP, if youre talking about sources and methods, there may be one person in the world that would have access to the type of information contained in that SAP, he said.

    It is not known what the impact was on the source, nor the findings of a damage assessment by the agency that controlled the source.

    Separately, Fox News has learned that the so-called "spillage" of classified information is greater than the several dozen emails identified in the January 14 letter to Congress, which also acknowledged for the first time, that the Clinton emails contained intelligence beyond Top Secret, also known as Special Access Programs (SAPs).

    The source said that the "several dozen" refers to the main or principal email thread identified by reviewers, not the number of times that classified information was forwarded, replied to or copied to people who did not have a need-to-know using unsecured communication channels -- in this case a personal server. More than one Special Access Program was affected.

    "It's pretty tough to have SAP program material out in the public domain. I mean, it's a huge foul if that occurs, said Maguire, who retired after 46 years of service, and who was involved with Special Access Programs throughout his career. Maguire says a damage assessment to the program is mandatory and immediate.

    "It's a fairly laborious investigation. Once you know something was out to one person, that person sends it to 15, 15 send it to someone else -- so it's very difficult to ascertain where it all went but that's all part of the damage control aspect to get all the information back in the box."

    The two declarations provided to the heads of the House and Senate Intelligence committees -- as well as the leadership of Senate Foreign Affairs with oversight for the State Department -- include the emails containing SAP intelligence, as well as supporting do ents from the agency affected, showing how they reached the determination it came from one of its sources, and not from publicly available information.

    When the inspector generals letter was first reported by Fox News, Hillary Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon said, This is the same interagency dispute that has been playing out for months, and it does not change the fact that these emails were not classified at the time they were sent or received.

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    They want a month's delay (conveniently after the 1st 3 primaries) for a few days' blizzard.

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    Why aren't they investigating Congressional corruption, eg,

    Repug Reps and Senators taking $100Ks from NRA/BigGun and voting 100% against any regulations?

    Repug Reps and Senators taking $100K from BigFinance, then working like to gut, defund IRS, CFPB, SEC?

    This Hillary email bull is typical Repug witch hunt. Multiple Benghazi committees, $Ms, dozens of people testifying, Repugs FOUND NOTHING. But they did discover this email thread they're pulling it very hard, and no doubt pressuring FBI/CIA/anybody to give them the "facts" to go after Hillary.

    Same story with PP. The CMP vids were totally bull , but Repugs act on them as if they were revealed by God Himself.

    you rightwingnut ers are so willingly gullible.

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    Why aren't they investigating Congressional corruption, eg,

    Repug Reps and Senators taking $100Ks from NRA/BigGun and voting 100% against any regulations?

    Repug Reps and Senators taking $100K from BigFinance, then working like to gut, defund IRS, CFPB, SEC?

    This Hillary email bull is typical Repug witch hunt. Multiple Benghazi committees, $Ms, dozens of people testifying, Repugs FOUND NOTHING. But they did discover this email thread they're pulling it very hard, and no doubt pressuring FBI/CIA/anybody to give them the "facts" to go after Hillary.

    Same story with PP. The CMP vids were totally bull , but Repugs act on them as if they were revealed by God Himself.

    you rightwingnut ers are so willingly gullible.
    You think there are 100+ FBI agents investigating Clinton because of Repug pressure?!?! you are stupider than I thought.

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    Hillary’s team copied intel off top-secret server to email

    The two systems — the Secret Internet Protocol Router Network (SIPRNet) and the Joint Worldwide Intelligence Communications System (JWICS) — are not connected to the unclassified system, known as the Non-Classified Internet Protocol Router Network (NIPRNet). You cannot email from one system to the other, though you can use NIPRNet to send ­emails outside the government.

    Somehow, highly classified information from SIPRNet, as well as even the super-secure JWICS, jumped from those closed systems to the open system and turned up in at least 1,340 of Clinton’s home emails — including several the CIA earlier this month flagged as containing ultra-secret Sensitive Compartmented Information and Special Access Programs, a subset of SCI.
    SAP includes “dark projects,” such as drone operations, while SCI protects intelligence sources and methods.
    Reuters Fox News reported Friday that at least one of Clinton’s emails included sensitive information on spies.
    “It takes a very conscious effort to move a classified email or cable from the classified systems over to the unsecured open system and then send it to Hillary Clinton’s personal email account,” said Raymond Fournier, a veteran Diplomatic Security Service special agent. “That’s no less than a two-conscious-step process.”
    He says it’s clear from some of the classified emails made public that someone on Clinton’s staff essentially “cut and pasted” content from classified cables into the messages sent to her. The classified markings are gone, but the content is classified at the highest levels — and so sensitive in nature that “it would have been obvious to Clinton.” Most likely the information was, in turn, emailed to her via NIPRNet.
    To work around the closed, classified systems, which are accessible only by secure desktop workstations whose hard drives must be removed and stored overnight in a safe, Clinton’s staff would have simply retyped classified information from the systems into the non-classified system or taken a screen shot of the classified do ent, Fournier said. “Either way, it’s totally illegal.”
    FBI agents are zeroing in on three of Clinton’s top department aides. Most of the Clinton emails deemed classified by intelligence agency reviewers were sent to her by her chief of staff Cheryl Mills or deputy chiefs Huma Abedin and Jake Sullivan.


    In one email, Clinton pressured Sullivan to declassify cabled remarks by a foreign leader.
    “Just email it,” Clinton snapped, to which Sullivan replied: “Trust me, I share your exasperation. But until ops converts it to the unclassified email system, there is no physical way for me to email it.”
    In another recently released email, Clinton instructed Sullivan to convert a classified do ent into an unclassified email attachment by scanning it into an unsecured computer and sending it to her without any classified markings. “Turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure,” she ordered.
    Top Secret/SCI emails received by Clinton include a 2012 staff ­email sent to the then-secretary containing investigative data about Benghazi terrorist suspects wanted by the FBI and sourcing a regional security officer. They also include a 2011 message from Clinton’s top aides that contains military intelligence from United States Africa Command gleaned from satellite images of troop movements in Libya, along with the travel and protection plans for Ambassador Christopher Stevens, who was later killed in a terrorist attack in Benghazi.
    “Receiving Top Secret SAP intelligence outside secure channels is a mortal sin,” said Chris Farrell, director of investigations for Judicial Watch, the Washington-based public law firm that has successfully sued State for Clinton’s emails.
    “A regular government employee would be crucified, and they are, routinely,” added Farrell, who as a former Army counterintelligence agent investigated such violations.
    The prosecution of former CIA Director David Petraeus for mishandling secret intelligence centered on a classified-information nondisclosure form he signed swearing to protect such information. Clinton signed the same agreement on Jan. 22, 2009.
    As a result of Clinton’s negligence, former Defense Secretary Robert Gates said in a recent interview he thinks “the odds are pretty high” that hostile foreign powers like Iran, China and Russia hacked Clinton’s homebrew email server and stole US secrets.

    http://nypost.com/2016/01/24/hillary...rver-to-email/

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    State dept. spokesman: none of the 37 email pages was classified when sent.

    Seven email chains are being withheld in their entirety from a release scheduled later Friday for including "top secret" information.

    "The do ents are being upgraded at the request of the intelligence community, because they contain a category of top secret information," State Department spokesman John Kirby said. He added, though, that the messages had not been designated as top secret when they were sent, though the department "is focusing on whether they need to be classified today."

    SNIP


    White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest defended the delay in releasing all of Clinton’s emails on Friday.

    “I can tell you with full confidence that there is — has been no political interference in this process,” he said. “I think the extraordinary request that Secretary Clinton put forward to actually release her emails is something that, I'm not sure has a precedent, at least for federal office holders.” . . .


    “In the context of a presidential campaign, people are going to have a whole bunch of reasons to criticize any of the candidates,” he said. “So it's not surprising to me that there are certain political opponents of Secretary Clinton that are looking for a way to use this situation to criticize her. That is part of the process. And she and her team, I'm confident, will muster a robust defense.”
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...cret/79530396/

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    Here's what you need to know about the 7 Clinton emails ...

    ...which the State Department is withholding due to classification issues.

    1) There was no government rule which prevented Hillary from setting up and using a private email server to handle her government emails.

    2) Other State Departments heads including Colon Powell used the exact same set up. I don't hear the Republicans complaining about him.

    3) Hillary's server was used to send and receive messages to and from other government employees in the State Department and her personal emails as well.

    4) Any official State Department emails set to or received from Hillary's server were also maintained the State Department's government servers - therefore there is a government record of each and every one.

    5) Investigations determined that Hillary's server had the exact same security protections required on all State Department government servers.

    6) Investigation have also concluded that that there was no security breaches of Hillary's server - yes IT security experts can determine if such a breach occurred.

    7) Because an email server is most vulnerable to security breaches cause by user error - such as opening a do ent on a fake email which releases a virus which allows 0the server to be hacked - the less people having access to a server, the more secure it is. So Hillary's server was probably more secure than the State Department's email machines. (Note: There have been several reports of government servers being hacked and very sensitive data being lost. This did not happen on Hillary's server.)

    9) The 7 emails in question were not classified when they were sent and received.

    9) The State Department is not withholding the 7 emails because they believe they that the emails should be classified; it is another government agency that is claiming that they should be classified. It is a well known fact that there is a propensity in many government agencies to over classify data - often because the information in question may make the the agency look bad if it was ever publicized. It is their way of making sure that the public never knows that they screwed up. I am not saying that is what is going on here, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised me if it were the case because that is often a prime reason why different agencies disagree on information classification.

    10) The State Department is not saying that they will never distribute the emails. They are saying that they are withholding them for now until they can do their own investigation as to whether the emails should be classified.

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    fool

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    what have your Repug witchhunters been telling you that's different? and you believe them?

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    what have your Repug witchhunters been telling you that's different? and you believe them?
    "Hillary's servers were more secure than the State Departments servers"

    Seriously?

    Fool

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    Here's what you need to know about the 7 Clinton emails ...

    ...which the State Department is withholding due to classification issues.

    1) There was no government rule which prevented Hillary from setting up and using a private email server to handle her government emails.

    2) Other State Departments heads including Colon Powell used the exact same set up. I don't hear the Republicans complaining about him.

    3) Hillary's server was used to send and receive messages to and from other government employees in the State Department and her personal emails as well.

    4) Any official State Department emails set to or received from Hillary's server were also maintained the State Department's government servers - therefore there is a government record of each and every one.

    5) Investigations determined that Hillary's server had the exact same security protections required on all State Department government servers.

    6) Investigation have also concluded that that there was no security breaches of Hillary's server - yes IT security experts can determine if such a breach occurred.

    7) Because an email server is most vulnerable to security breaches cause by user error - such as opening a do ent on a fake email which releases a virus which allows 0the server to be hacked - the less people having access to a server, the more secure it is. So Hillary's server was probably more secure than the State Department's email machines. (Note: There have been several reports of government servers being hacked and very sensitive data being lost. This did not happen on Hillary's server.)

    9) The 7 emails in question were not classified when they were sent and received.

    9) The State Department is not withholding the 7 emails because they believe they that the emails should be classified; it is another government agency that is claiming that they should be classified. It is a well known fact that there is a propensity in many government agencies to over classify data - often because the information in question may make the the agency look bad if it was ever publicized. It is their way of making sure that the public never knows that they screwed up. I am not saying that is what is going on here, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised me if it were the case because that is often a prime reason why different agencies disagree on information classification.

    10) The State Department is not saying that they will never distribute the emails. They are saying that they are withholding them for now until they can do their own investigation as to whether the emails should be classified.

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    people defending Hillary is really, really funny.

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    the funny thing is hillary is trying to avoid having to answer to this at all by just repeating "oh this is just like them coming after bengahzi"

    while, yeah, the republicans are obviously using this as ammo, doesn't mean you can dismiss this entire thing as having no substance at all

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