NBA: Why Is Jim So Quiet About Kobe's Retirement???

[wingster]

Wait til February 19th. At the latest.

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Fair enough, Cub. I misread.

It's a legitimate indictment of Duncan and the Spurs organization. Kobe has made overtures the past year:::Admitting to grudging the Spurs their onions. Praising the Spurs their onions. Praising Duncan.

The evolution of Bryant has been a reality. He's uncomfortable with it, yes, but, he has tried to transfer what has changed in his heart & mind to the community. It doesn't look good from the outside world, but, he's knelt---and it's been in broad daylight.

The boy is gone. The hard heart,,,the refusal to bend,,,the silly manifestations,,,the rampaging. Only the man remains.

We've let every other soul back in. Every single one...and the lion's share of those have not held fast and have fled back to pillar and to post. I don't think Kobe will flee. He'll take it. He dished it.

[Kidd K]

Horse , it's a quid pro quo arrangement among professionals. It is not Kobe who is stepping from the protocol, but, your people who are stonewalling it. Don't fret though, KK, it ain't like anybody is going to call ya's on it. I mean some old in Phoenix? They could care less. You can repudiate him without fear of identification, or, condemnation.

You should be so proud.

Where did I not say they were stonewalling it? That's the proper move. You don't celebrate players from other teams unless they did something like be the first black ball player or something. Kobe has done nothing transcendent and you know it. Don't be disingenuous man. He was a very good player but it ends there. Hasn't done anything other at least one other player hasn't already done and better. He is not deserving of league-wide celebration.

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Where did I not say they were stonewalling it? That's the proper move. You don't celebrate players from other teams unless they did something like be the first black ball player or something. Kobe has done nothing transcendent and you know it. Don't be disingenuous man. He was a very good player but it ends there. Hasn't done anything other at least one other player hasn't already done and better. He is not deserving of league-wide celebration.

No, it's not, but, your people made that choice. It's small, it's petty, and, it's typical.

[Kidd K]

No, it's not, but, your people made that choice. It's small, it's petty, and, it's typical.

I had the exact same opinion about Jeter when he retired.

This is not unique to Kobe or the Lakers. Opposing teams should not be celebrating players who are not on their team. I'd rather be called petty by you than buckle to idiotic peer pressure and make a move by celebrating a player who has never played for my team and done nothing transcendent.

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I had the exact same opinion about Jeter when he retired.

This is not unique to Kobe or the Lakers. Opposing teams should not be celebrating players who are not on their team. I'd rather be called petty by you than buckle to idiotic peer pressure and make a move by celebrating a player who has never played for my team and done nothing transcendent.

But, it's the way it's always been done. Nobody should have rallied to Kobe's camp after he raped, but, the line was long and distinguished like Kool's .

The Spurs have not shunned Kobe out of principle, just out of spite. Just as Kobe has evolved,,,the Spurs hold on all the tighter...a death grip. They know no other way.

[Relevancy]

Duncan is just a quiet guy

[DarrinS]

Maybe he thought Kobe retired a few years back.

[Kidd K]

But, it's the way it's always been done. Nobody should have rallied to Kobe's camp after he raped, but, the line was long and distinguished like Kool's .

The Spurs have not shunned Kobe out of principle, just out of spite. Just as Kobe has evolved,,,the Spurs hold on all the tighter...a death grip. They know no other way.

That's your opinion and wild assumption of a guess that it's spite though, not reality. I don't celebrate Kobe out of "principle". Yeah, I dislike Kobe's typical fans (dumb as and extremely ignorant), but you will not hear me saying he wasn't a great player. Do I feel overrated? Yes. Bad? Ofc not. I just don't celebrate players on teams I don't follow. Never have, never will. If I was a player I wouldn't either unless we were friends off court or something. The Spurs not celebrating him is the correct response that all non-Lakers teams should have imo to any player not at least formerly on their team, not just Kobe.

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That's your opinion and wild assumption of a guess that it's spite though, not reality. I don't celebrate Kobe out of "principle". Yeah, I dislike Kobe's typical fans (dumb as and extremely ignorant), but you will not hear me saying he wasn't a great player. Do I feel overrated? Yes. Bad? Ofc not. I just don't celebrate players on teams I don't follow. Never have, never will. If I was a player I wouldn't either unless we were friends off court or something. The Spurs not celebrating him is the correct response that all non-Lakers teams should have imo to any player not at least formerly on their team, not just Kobe.

You would. They're a brotherhood, a union, a bond takes place and you'd go even if you hated Kobe as many, many do. The Spurs have taken the exception here. Doesn't surprise me. They've been incapable of taking it since Pop got the con.

[DMC]

It's a legitimate indictment of Duncan and the Spurs organization. Kobe has made overtures the past year:::Admitting to grudging the Spurs their onions. Praising the Spurs their onions. Praising Duncan.

The evolution of Bryant has been a reality. He's uncomfortable with it, yes, but, he has tried to transfer what has changed in his heart & mind to the community. It doesn't look good from the outside world, but, he's knelt---and it's been in broad daylight.

The boy is gone. The hard heart,,,the refusal to bend,,,the silly manifestations,,,the rampaging. Only the man remains.

We've let every other soul back in. Every single one...and the lion's share of those have not held fast and have fled back to pillar and to post. I don't think Kobe will flee. He'll take it. He dished it.

Honor isn't how gracious you act when your at the bottom, but how gracious you act when you're at the top. Kobe was a prick when he was at the top. Reap it.

[DMC]

You would. They're a brotherhood, a union, a bond takes place and you'd go even if you hated Kobe as many, many do. The Spurs have taken the exception here. Doesn't surprise me. They've been incapable of taking it since Pop got the con.

Though they took it to 5.

[HemisfairArena]

Why is he so quiet?,,,because when he wins his 6th,,,,he doesn't want to be associated with the guys who only have 5,,,,tbh.

[Kidd K]

You would. They're a brotherhood, a union, a bond takes place and you'd go even if you hated Kobe as many, many do. The Spurs have taken the exception here. Doesn't surprise me. They've been incapable of taking it since Pop got the con.

Nah man I wouldn't. You don't give rival players gifts while they're still in the league and celebrate their careers. Giving positive comments (such as "he's had a nice career" to the media, which is fine) isn't the same as giving physical gifts and throwing pre game celebrations in front of your home fans for him. There's a line there imo.

Do you have an issue with how Pop runs things though? He's done a fine job leading a lower budget team that hasn't had any high draft picks in nearly a couple decades to pretty high success. Hard to deny the effectiveness there isn't it? His personality has been a big part of that.

[DMC]

Tim was quiet about the rape, quiet about everything that happens in the league. He didn't fault Kobe, didn't praise him. Tim is trying to be Tim, doesn't study Kobe or any of you gots who do.

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Nah man I wouldn't. You don't give rival players gifts while they're still in the league and celebrate their careers. Giving positive comments (such as "he's had a nice career" to the media, which is fine) isn't the same as giving physical gifts and throwing pre game celebrations in front of your home fans for him. There's a line there imo.

Do you have an issue with how Pop runs things though? He's done a fine job leading a lower budget team that hasn't had any high draft picks in nearly a couple decades to pretty high success. Hard to deny the effectiveness there isn't it? His personality has been a big part of that.

I've acknowledged Popovich's brilliance on a semi regular basis.

[SpursforSix]

I've acknowledged Popovich's brilliance on a semi regular basis.

Do it again.

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Do it again.

I ain't doing it on demand.

[phyzik]

Buddy and Kool together, Dale off camera trying to get hard and join in on the "beating" each other.

[pookenstein]

Only pussies & assholes do Twitter.

https://twitter.com/kobebryant

What a pussy.
What an asshole.

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Buddy and Kool together, Dale off camera trying to get hard and join in on the "beating" each other.

Gee. Fizz comin' downstairs. It's been a while.

[phyzik]

Gee. Fizz comin' downstairs. It's been a while.

I'm always downstairs, I just lurk most of the time. Hardly ever ascend to the upper floor except to see if anyone posted any articles I may have missed.