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    Spurs would probably have won the 2013 Finals had Manu not played at all tbh

    Wouldn't have gotten there without him. TBH.

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    We are surely going to miss Manu's BALLsy play.

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    you must have missed the 2015 Round 1 playoffs Spurs vs. Clippers

    Manu was never to be found. There was no reason whatsoever to believe he would show up in 2016 playoffs. (aka 1 year later)

    give it up dude. your "we are done without Manu" game is tired and lame
    That's exactly my point. Manu wasn't stellar and he couldn't bail out our 6 PER PG = no ring.

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    That's exactly my point. Manu wasn't stellar and he couldn't bail out our 6 PER PG = no ring.

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    In all seriousness though, I think this makes the team better in the long run. Not only will we get a rested Manu for the stretch run but Simmons/Anderson are going to get more acclimated into the group. Like the SL without Timmy, the bench needs to not be so reliant on Manu.

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    Spurs would probably have won the 2013 Finals had Manu not played at all tbh
    2nd round fodder, tbh...

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    Manu had surgery today per Spurs facebook.

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    cant believe he had surgery. Anderson shattered his testicle. that's pretty bad

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    There is no real silver lining here. It's not cliff jumping to be seriously alarmed. Could the Spurs sustain their current pace? Sure, but it's not at all reasonable to assume so

    Immediate concerns: Stress on TP/Tim and other players having to make up for minutes. Starting line up has been good, but bench has won a lot of games - will the losses pile up because the bench lacks punch? Rotations and coming together - Manu did a lot of things in many lineups - team still finding what works and doesn't and losing Manu sets that process back.

    Long-term concerns: Can Manu fully recover and contribute? Will he be able to fit in and adjust when back? What record will the Spurs have and what is their path to the finals?

    Spurs are still a damn good team, but from a on-court perspective (his impact this year and the bench being phenomenal) and emotional perspective (Tim already hurting and teammates loving Manu) there are a lot of concerns.

    Hope the Spurs can get some contributions from Mills/Kyle/Simmons and that Kawhi/Danny/LMA can handle bigger minutes and produce without getting worn down towards the end of the season.

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    There is no real silver lining here. It's not cliff jumping to be seriously alarmed. Could the Spurs sustain their current pace? Sure, but it's not at all reasonable to assume so

    Immediate concerns: Stress on TP/Tim and other players having to make up for minutes. Starting line up has been good, but bench has won a lot of games - will the losses pile up because the bench lacks punch? Rotations and coming together - Manu did a lot of things in many lineups - team still finding what works and doesn't and losing Manu sets that process back.

    Long-term concerns: Can Manu fully recover and contribute? Will he be able to fit in and adjust when back? What record doe the Spurs have and what is their path to the finals?

    Spurs are still a damn good team, but from a on-court perspective (his impact this year and the bench being phenomenal) and emotional perspective (Tim already hurting and teammates loving Manu) there are a lot of concerns.

    Hope the Spurs can get some contributions from Mills/Kyle/Simmons and that Kawhi/Danny/LMA can handle bigger minutes and produce without getting worn down towards the end of the season.
    There's hopefully some solidarity and rebellion to adversity, but those are normally short lived, unfortunately. The lack of unique talent eventually creeps in.

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    That's 8 turnovers we got back tbh.

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    I think the Spurs will still win 60 games. All they have to go is 20-14 the rest of the way which is still very doable.

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    Poor Manu, tbh..

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    This is some of the most unlucky bull sh*t I have ever seen. Manu has the worst luck. Broken arm right before playoffs, knee to groin on random play turns out to need surgery. I mean, it's just unreal.

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    Sad for Manu but excited to see Simmons and Anderson more...... 4-6 weeks won't break us but it will give an opportunity for those two to prove or disprove they are playoff ready.

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    This is some of the most unlucky bull sh*t I have ever seen. Manu has the worst luck. Broken arm right before playoffs, knee to groin on random play turns out to need surgery. I mean, it's just unreal.
    yeah, I was just saying that in the other thread, another freak injury... and he's been pretty healthy the last 3 seasons...

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    This is some of the most unlucky bull sh*t I have ever seen. Manu has the worst luck. Broken arm right before playoffs, knee to groin on random play turns out to need surgery. I mean, it's just unreal.
    I accepted a few years ago during the lockout season that Manu was injury prone. I forgot what injury he got back during that season but he was out for a month or two. It was because of that injury Danny Green was able to be a significant contributor. I felt from that point on you can't count on Manu for playing a full season without some serious injury.

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    I don't know how to lookup "wins-produced" by the bench, but it would be interesting to see some loose projections. We know the schedule will get much more difficult this 2nd half, but my gut tells me SA would be around 5-8 losses worse this first half if not for the bench.

    Luckily, Danny being Danny again helps that and LMA starting to find his groove does too. Need Kawhi/LMA to really be ready to lead here bc the bench may no longer have that punch so consistently. As Nono said, the playmaking is the MAJOR concern and we can't play TP major minutes.

    There is no real other creator. Even with Mills shooting better (if he does and can sustain) and Danny shooting, it doesn't solve that ball handling/creator issue. Kyle is the only one (with Simmons a little bit so far) to take on that role, but that seems like a MASSIVE drop off from a Manu.

    Maybe Spurs can swing a trade?
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    Could be out as long as 6 weeks. Hopefully it's just a month. Tough break.

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    Miss u Beli

    As I said Manunshould have retired and we shoulda signed Ferrari

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    Sad for Manu TBH, painful injury and really in the real life scheme of things, glad for him that he will recover.

    Silver lining for the team. Just as we discovered Danny who ended up a contributor, my hope is we discover more and develop both Anderson and Simmons, who honestly have already given signs. They just haven't had consistent playing time.

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    If he's out 4 weeks - that's about 18 games. If he's out 6, that's about 24 games *gun*

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    wow, and that was "sucking" this year, according to some peeps...

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    I don't know how to lookup "wins-produced" by the bench, but it would be interesting to see some loose projections. We know the schedule will get much more difficult this 2nd half, but my gut tells me SA would be around 5-8 losses worse this first half if not for the bench.

    Luckily, Danny being Danny again helps that and LMA starting to find his groove does too. Need Kawhi/LMA to really be ready to lead here bc the bench may no longer have that punch so consistently. As Nono said, the playmaking is the MAJOR concern and we can't play TP major minutes.

    There is no real other creator. Even with Mills shooting better (if he does and can sustain) and Danny shooting, it doesn't solve that ball handling/creator issue. Kyle is the only one (with Simmons a little bit so far) to take on that role, but that seems like a MASSIVE drop off from a Manu.

    Maybe Spurs can swing a trade?
    We are maybe not going to be destroying other benches, but now our bench's role is to hold down the fort (like most teams in the league)... and I truly believe the tandem of Anderson/Simmons together added to the others we have in the bench is going to get it done for us. Spurs have been getting Anderson ready for this moment right here. He will have to be aggressive but he is uncanny finding cutters and making passes in transition, and guess what is Simmons' strength? Among others, transition scoring and cutting off the ball. Those two guys wrecked SL, and this is not the same league, but they also have better players around them.

    And lets not forget Kyle already has mounted come backs against the CAVS and Magic without Manu. I would actually just leave Diaw with LMA and have Kyle at the 4 with West (Diaw and Kyle not a good combo IMO, they really are too similar and Diaw is not better than West playing "center") with Simmons.

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