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Question for you then Killa. Who do you put him above that they have ranked ahead of him. Oscar obviously? But who else? I am curious.
Tell em, tbe ...i really dont give a but agree he should be lower 10 but who cares?!Typical BSPN trying to create controversy using Kobe's name. First they're trying to make Manziel off himself with all this coverage and now this. You've got to be full of not to rank Kobe top 10. If Jerry West and Bird are on your top 10 and not Kobe you're just a huge salty got tbh
Question for you then Killa. Who do you put him above that they have ranked ahead of him. Oscar obviously? But who else? I am curious.
How many times do you need to mention Kobe? You made what, 2-3 threads regarding his ranking on ESPN?
Just reinforces two things I've been saying: Kobe lives in your mind rent-free and you'll slobber ESPN's feet if they say something to fit your agenda. Get outta here, pulpy, you're no different than the re s upstairs.
No one here actually cares about ESPN. When that network was slobbering over Kirbs, with Mark Jackson and the like calling him the greatest player of all-time, it was us, here, calling bull . Before Henry Abbott's "Kobe Is Not Clutch" article was a glimmer in his eye, we were taking that myth apart with the relevant stats and analysis. We took apart Kobe's All NBA defense" myth before ESPN caught on. When Kobe fans, as well as ESPN, were citing "eye tests" with regard to his "will to win" and "killer instinct," we were here citing our own eye tests of how his ball dominant play and terrible shot selection can ruin the team dynamic.
ESPN coming around on this issue is worth mentioning because the last bastion Kobe fans had (re: Duncan vs. Kobe) is now gone. The mainstream has finally realized it, and you're all salty about it
Mid with the ether.No one here actually cares about ESPN. When that network was slobbering over Kirbs, with Mark Jackson and the like calling him the greatest player of all-time, it was us, here, calling bull . Before Henry Abbott's "Kobe Is Not Clutch" article was a glimmer in his eye, we were taking that myth apart with the relevant stats and analysis. We took apart Kobe's All NBA defense" myth before ESPN caught on. When Kobe fans, as well as ESPN, were citing "eye tests" with regard to his "will to win" and "killer instinct," we were here citing our own eye tests of how his ball dominant play and terrible shot selection can ruin the team dynamic.
ESPN coming around on this issue is worth mentioning because the last bastion Kobe fans had (re: Duncan vs. Kobe) is now gone. The mainstream has finally realized it, and you're all salty about it
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How many points are you willing to give me for today's Lakers vs. Spurs?
Spread is 15, but I think the Spurs easily cover that.
16. Lakers are hot! 2 game roll baby!
Kobe is ranked 11 by Bleacher report http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...l-time/page/93
12 by espn as we all know
and 13 by realgm http://forums.realgm.com/boards/view...f=64&t=1328924
And those may be too high
Here is where Kobe ranks in most of the metrics which exist:
Career win shares: 18th
Career ws/48: 53rd
Career per: 21st
Career box plus/minus: 32nd
Career vorp(which only goes back to 1974): 15th
The championships were because of him getting to play with some of the most dominating front lines. Every single time they won a le with Kobe they were also top 5 in the league in rebounding percentage. Two times they lead the league.
Also he is one of the worst teammates in the history of the league who his own coach tried to get traded multiple times and got multiple coaches fired. Plus when he didnt have Phil he has been basically t-mac
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$10 8-1 side bet: Kirby lodges a skunker. I'll give you either side of it
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