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    Its pretty welll do ented that I wasnt for the Aldridge trade. I thought and still do that it was going to destory the spurs chances of getting better players in kawhi 26-30 prime years.

    I didnt think the spurs could compete against a prime curry and.a historic team with Kawhi being 23 years old.

    Aldridge will ultimately kill Leonards 26-30 years.
    As opposed to Euros, vet retreads, and undrafted players?

    Also, as I've said before in this thread, LMA + Kawhi is a much more attractive pitch to a free agent than, "Hey, we'll add to our core of Kawhi and the Euro we just brought over!" And by the time Kawhi's peak happens, LMA will be 32-34, meaning at the tail end of his prime, which still makes him a dangerous 3rd option to have alongside Kawhi and whatever FA we may or may not get. And yes, we'll have the cap space. Cap is going up to 108 million in 2017.

    Signing LMA to this contract doesn't ruin their future nor Kawhi's prime years at all. If anything, it prolongs the Spurs future/Leonard era, because of how attractive a Kawhi and LMA core will be.
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    28 points tonite! When will this apalisoc_9 die?

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    All I know is that I'm loving this roll-to-the-basket version of LMA.

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    28 points tonite! When will this apalisoc_9 die?
    He's been reduced to ranting about trannies or something.

    basketball discussion

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    i'm not denying that you said we should sign him. its just funny that you go back to that all the time so you can sit on both sides of the fence
    No, the original point of this thread was questioning whether it was worth it to build/change the system around Aldridge at the expense of Green(who they had just signed to a long-term deal, as well)..I already admitted an overreaction to Green's struggles, but most people only read the thread le and get excited(like my Warriors are pathetic thread, which had literally nothing to do with their on-court performance)..

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    No, the original point of this thread was questioning whether it was worth it to build/change the system around Aldridge at the expense of Green(who they had just signed to a long-term deal, as well)..I already admitted an overreaction to Green's struggles, but most people only read the thread le and get excited(like my Warriors are pathetic thread, which had literally nothing to do with their on-court performance)..
    The Green angle is actually the worse one tbh. I don't know why you keep drawing attention to it.

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    No, the original point of this thread was questioning whether it was worth it to build/change the system around Aldridge at the expense of Green(who they had just signed to a long-term deal, as well)..I already admitted an overreaction to Green's struggles, but most people only read the thread le and get excited(like my Warriors are pathetic thread, which had literally nothing to do with their on-court performance)..
    yeah, pinning green going ice cold on literally wide open attempts on LMA somehow never made sense, as i pointed out earlier in this thread. its one thing if green was phased out, wasn't getting attempts, wasn't getting open... but that simply was never the case, even when he was cold

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    The Green angle is actually the worse one tbh. I don't know why you keep drawing attention to it.
    The Green take was wrong, I already admitted..I have no problem admitting bad takes, as rare as they are..

    The Aldridge take isn't wrong, though..not at all, it's only February and he has not played well vs. any of the other contenders..

    To be fair, you're the same that said I was wrong about Parker, last year, too..

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    The Green take was wrong, I already admitted..I have no problem admitting bad takes, as rare as they are(you wouldn't know, since you never actually talk basketball)..

    The Aldridge take isn't wrong, though..not at all, it's only February and he has not played well vs. any of the other contenders..

    To be fair, you're the same that said I was wrong about Parker, last year, too..
    lol lashing out now.

    You really can't stand this can you?

    Boiled down: You were wrong.

    Don't be a about it.

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    Its pretty welll do ented that I wasnt for the Aldridge trade. I thought and still do that it was going to destory the spurs chances of getting better players in kawhi 26-30 prime years.

    I didnt think the spurs could compete against a prime curry and.a historic team with Kawhi being 23 years old.

    Aldridge will ultimately kill Leonards 26-30 years.
    That is quite the leap. It's possible that LMA falls off a cliff and the last 2 years of his deal look bad, but Spurs are still in a great spot for years 3/4 of LMA's deal from a salary perspective. It's so early to remotely assume the worst case and even if LMA tanks, it doesn't just kill all hope.

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    lol lashing out now.

    You really can't stand this can you?

    Boiled down: You were wrong in this thread.

    Don't be a about it.
    I don't know where you got the idea that I'm one of these posters that refuses to admit when he's wrong..I always admit when I'm wrong, G..

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    I don't know where you got the idea that I'm one of these posters that refuses to admit when he's wrong..I always admit when I'm wrong, G..
    Of course you do, G....of course you do....sure thing, G...

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    Of course you do, G....of course you do....sure thing, G...
    You're a nice man, Chump, I hate doing this to you, tbh..I'm the Kobe of ST, when you make as many threads and posts as I do, sometimes you're wrong..

    Some s talk basketball, while other s love asking repe ive questions..do your thing, bro..

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    You're a nice man, Chump, I hate doing this to you, tbh

    Some s talk basketball, while other s love asking repe ive questions..do your thing, bro..
    You never get defensive either, G....not a once....

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    You never get defensive either, G....not a once....
    Sure I do, we all do, it's human nature..

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    I honestly don't know why this is a discussion?

    I get Harlem was doing his Socratic thing, but no one but the most cynical fan could say this wasn't worth it.

    - If Golden State (an all time great team, with greatest team of all time potential) didn't exist, the media would be jerking off the Spurs in that regard. 44-8 doesn't happen with Tiago.

    - "Well, given his playoff history..." Doesn't matter. The Spurs are, at best, 2nd round fodder if we stayed pat. Only a complete tragic turn of events will keep the Spurs out of the 2nd round this season (indeed, we might not make it past the 2nd round because the Thunder are no slouch and always a threat. But if the Thunder do beat the Spurs, it goes 6 or 7 instead of the sweep it would have been).

    - This doesn't impair the Spurs roster flexibility going forward. Cap is going up, and as I've said, pitching a Kawhi/LMA core is a much sexier than pitching Kawhi + Euros and Vets core. Yes, the Spurs won't be able to afford a max level player, but Anthony Davis, Blake Griffin, Kevin Durant, and the like weren't going to come here any way. But they should be able to round out the core with a 15-20 million all star level player (max players will be probably be commanding 30 million per year in 2017). They can sign such a player and then fill the rest of the roster with their usual retreads and projects. The Spurs will also have 12-13 million to play around with next season.

    The move couldn't have been better.

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    Yeah the idea of passing on a multi time all star power forward at 30 years old just boggles my mind

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    Good to see Kwa - Aldridge expanding their chemistry tonight vs Heat.
    Need them to work as a team.

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    lol lashing out now.

    You really can't stand this can you?

    Boiled down: You were wrong.

    Don't be a about it.

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    Yeah the idea of passing on a multi time all star power forward at 30 years old just boggles my mind
    think of it like this. i'm hearing the Durant warriors talk on sports radio. they're saying not only would Durant going to the warriors mean Durant is on the warriors, but it also means Durant isn't on any other team playing against them. Well the opposite is a nasty downside of lame. not only does lame hurt by being a drag on Timmys knees and Kawhi's youth, on a nightly basis. but also, now there isn't one extra regular season/1st round series that the spurs could have had, in the bag... Splitter, Tristan Thompson, Biyombo, Euros and vets, whoever.

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    That was dominent against miami.

    Gotta like the comfort level he showing in the spurs system . Everything seems to be coming naturally .

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    Aldridge has been putting a lot of points up and making it look easy with quiet efficiency. Aldridge is a stud and he's showing it. Aldridge haters are just gonna hate no matter what...

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    I honestly don't know why this is a discussion?

    I get Harlem was doing his Socratic thing, but no one but the most cynical fan could say this wasn't worth it.

    - If Golden State (an all time great team, with greatest team of all time potential) didn't exist, the media would be jerking off the Spurs in that regard. 44-8 doesn't happen with Tiago.

    - "Well, given his playoff history..." Doesn't matter. The Spurs are, at best, 2nd round fodder if we stayed pat. Only a complete tragic turn of events will keep the Spurs out of the 2nd round this season (indeed, we might not make it past the 2nd round because the Thunder are no slouch and always a threat. But if the Thunder do beat the Spurs, it goes 6 or 7 instead of the sweep it would have been).

    - This doesn't impair the Spurs roster flexibility going forward. Cap is going up, and as I've said, pitching a Kawhi/LMA core is a much sexier than pitching Kawhi + Euros and Vets core. Yes, the Spurs won't be able to afford a max level player, but Anthony Davis, Blake Griffin, Kevin Durant, and the like weren't going to come here any way. But they should be able to round out the core with a 15-20 million all star level player (max players will be probably be commanding 30 million per year in 2017). They can sign such a player and then fill the rest of the roster with their usual retreads and projects. The Spurs will also have 12-13 million to play around with next season.

    The move couldn't have been better.
    The fact that this thread exists is hilarious. Because who the else were we going to sign? We had to court the out of LMA to come back to his home state.

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    Ever since he shut down his twitter and instagram accounts to focus, he has played with more energy and focus.

    Jury is still out as to whether he can deliver the goods against the elite teams, but I'm satisfied with his contributions.

    I wasn't satisfied with his play throughout the season and I was justified in that. Even the TNT crew remarked as to why didn't he shut down his social media accounts 2 months ago!

    Coincidentally, Danny Green is playing much better ever since LMA shut down his twitter feed. Go figure!!!

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    Aldridge has always been a beast player against weak compe ion
    Really. So him going 36 points against AD was weak. Him avg like 21 ppg 10.6 rpg against Green for his career is because he is weak. LMA is an offensive beast against any compe ion when he is on. And in the Spurs system, LMA should have a field day. I projected him scoring about 20-25 ppg and shooting 55% by end of February/beg of March. That GS game just trigger something in LMA and he has been ahead schedule. Pretty much everyone has been this year when it comes to my projections, which is a good thing. The quote from Gentry tells you exactly why LMA will continue to beast in the Spurs system.

    “I thought both of them played well. I thought LaMarcus did a great job of getting post-position on the inside. It’s hard for us to double them because they’ve got three-point shooters all over the place. They’ve got Patty Mills on the floor, Danny Green and some other guys. So Anthony had to play him solo a lot of the time..."

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