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    Jesus christ..Fuzzy is a legit dumbass.

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    The issue is that the Spurs need a PG who's better than McCallum, and I don't know where they'd find one. Maybe the Grizz are willing to give up Calathes for nothing? Or the Heat want to dump Udrih? If the team had Prigioni instead of McCallum, this would be much less of an issue right now.
    I'm not sure that Holiday or Patterson is better than McCallum. They don't shoot the ball as well.

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    I'm not sure that Holiday or Patterson is better than McCallum. They don't shoot the ball as well.
    That's why I had Mack going over. Holiday or Patterson could go with Horford without causing further player movement.

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    Only Bazemore has value for the Spurs and low enough salary for a trade to be possible. The following players are expendable on the Spurs: Anderson, Simmons, MacCallum, and Butler. Bonner might be expendable but the Spurs might have emotional attachment towards him.

    As much as I would hate for Simmons to go since he looks like a poor man's Tyreke Evans, I highly doubt he will see significant minutes in the playoffs since he is a rookie. It will be worth the risk to pawn him off for Bazemore. Bazemore can at least make the playoff rotation. Hawks might want to trade Bazemore now to get value if they don't want to pay him next year. Simmons + Anderson + 1st round pick might be a decent package. Spurs will definitely have to get the family discount though.

    But then again, the Hawks' future looks bleak so they may have no choice but to pay him next year.

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    I was talking about trades and I just quoted where you could trade as much as you want as long as you end up at no more than $100k over. It helps when judging an argument to at least understand the argument, grit and grind.
    I saw what you quoted. Do you see everyone telling you that you are wrong? We all understand the trade rules and you should take it as a sign of respect that we don't cite CBA language to you for everything we say because it's so basic that we assume even you know it.

    Also, you keep on with the grit and grind thing and I honestly don't even remember the conversation with you . Assuming it has something to do with you thinking Hollins was a great coach?

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    I saw what you quoted. Do you see everyone telling you that you are wrong? We all understand the trade rules and you should take it as a sign of respect that we don't cite CBA language to you for everything we say because it's so basic that we assume even you know it.

    Also, you keep on with the grit and grind thing and I honestly don't even remember the conversation with you . Assuming it has something to do with you thinking Hollins was a great coach?
    so now you and chinook are everyone? youre going with the 'we' thing as well.

    While you are trying to play this as me only remembering becaseu its important, I remember most things unless I'm ed up.

    I will be happy to help you remember. I was saying that those Grizzlies didn't matchup well with us while you were saying that there grit and grind would make things difficult for us. We swept in the face of your regurgitation of the Memphis marketing slogan.

    And I never said Hollins was a great coach. Your binary mind obviously struggles with nuance.

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    That's why I had Mack going over. Holiday or Patterson could go with Horford without causing further player movement.
    I think that trade you worked up just involves way too many moving pieces for us. At the deadline, we typically stand pat or make a blockbuster one-for-one deal like Nando for Austin Daye, if we do anything at all. Too much turnover in a year when Pop has already experienced much more than he is comfortable with, IMHO.

    As an aside, if we were to acquire another star big, then I would be more comfortable in the long run parting with Kyle before Simmons. IMHO Kyle will never play significant minutes at the three; ultimately he will settle in at the four, either bulking up and gaining strength for a "real" 4 or becoming a small ball 4 for his entire career. So, if we had Timmy, LMA, Horford, West and Boban (supplemented by Bonner and Butler) in the short term, and LMA, Horford, West and one or more of: Boban, Ndoye, Lalanne beyond this year, then Anderson seems more expendable than Simmons, IMHO.

    I really like both Simmons and Kyle as prospects. I even like McCallum okay - probably better than you. I think in the deal, Diaw and Patty for Horford, we would be okay for the remainder of this season with Tony, Manu and McCallum at the point with some assistance from Simmons and Kawhi. We would be okay in the short-term.

    Basically, I do not see us making any moves, much less a move as big as acquiring Horford. We aren't too bad off,if we stand pat.

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    so now you and chinook are everyone? youre going with the 'we' thing as well.

    While you are trying to play this as me only remembering becaseu its important, I remember most things unless I'm ed up.

    I will be happy to help you remember. I was saying that those Grizzlies didn't matchup well with us while you were saying that there grit and grind would make things difficult for us. We swept in the face of your regurgitation of the Memphis marketing slogan.

    And I never said Hollins was a great coach. Your binary mind obviously struggles with nuance.
    That doesn't sound right.

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    I'd ditch Green for Horford in a heartbeat. Horford has All-Star qualities. Green has D-League qualities....

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    Ugh, I love Horford, and he's clearly better than Danny, but that would leave a hole and add to an already strong position. You have to do that deal (which be real, ATL wouldn't do that), but it would be tough.

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    How about Coach Bud for Becky Hammond? Can we finally admit the female coach experiment is a fail?
    She's hot man, leave her there. This guy

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    And let's give them slow mo plus a pick for the golden god

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    That doesn't sound right.
    You said you don't remember. Now when remembering is important you go with this. What a little sophist turd you are.

    I remember well and I've been making fun of you about it for the last several years. You really lack originality and regurgitate hype and marketing. Grit and grind was just when I first noticed it. You've done it since and get up in arms when I bring it up but it is what it is. The truth no matter how repugnant is still the truth.

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    How about Coach Bud for Becky Hammond? Can we finally admit the female coach experiment is a fail?
    How have you determined it is a fail?

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    You said you don't remember. Now when remembering is important you go with this. What a little sophist turd you are.

    I remember well and I've been making fun of you about it for the last several years. You really lack originality and regurgitate hype and marketing. Grit and grind was just when I first noticed it. You've done it since and get up in arms when I bring it up but it is what it is. The truth no matter how repugnant is still the truth.
    Huh?

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    Yup you kept on saying that they were resilient and would come back to win games so we would have to grind it out. That is when I said you were parroting their marketing slogan as analysis.

    In game 2 they made a comeback and you acted like you had accomplished something. I just pointed to the scoreboard.

    It's been entertaining watching you fumble around since. Good job.

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    Yup you kept on saying that they were resilient and would come back to win games so we would have to grind it out. That is when I said you were parroting their marketing slogan as analysis.

    In game 2 they made a comeback and you acted like you had accomplished something. I just pointed to the scoreboard.

    It's been entertaining watching you fumble around since. Good job.
    What?

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    No clue what Fuzzy is babbling about but I'd be 100% for Kyle Korver. He would solve every bench problem.

    That said no way they can match salary to get him so, pie in the sky at best.

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    They have been re-hashed frequently, by multiple people. My reference was to Spur fans essentially saying Spurs will sweep Golden State, it's so easy! All you have to do is is "x" and it's game over! Things like that. I picked SA to win the series and listed numerous times why. But when people see a game like this, they get over confident and over simplify things as if it is easy to replicate and win by 20 every game.

    The concerns I have in order is: Duncan's health, the amount of 3's taken & rebounding. Rebounding was not an issue today, Duncan's health is still iffy to me and even though they were good looks, taking 30 3's is a lot.
    I agree and have said the same things. That doesn't mean that the Spurs will sweep MEM (which after games like this, people seem to think Spurs should win every game by 20 seemingly).
    Still don't think MEM is resilient?
    I agree with the logic of some of the posts, but I do feel Spur fans are once again over simplifying things. Memphis is a damn good team and there are still a lot of Spurs question marks. Luckily, the Spurs defense is the least of those question marks and with an offensively limited team like MEM, that might be enough to get them through the series. We'll see.

    But MEM has easily been one of the most resilient teams in the league, especially in the playoff this year.

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    I liked the part about too many 3's. Such insight!

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    I don't see anything to make fun of in there. Thanks for searching though - didn't remember the convo at all.

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    They would need to also include Mills and Williams to match salaries. If the Spurs are using cap space to sign Aldridge (which is the case in this scenario), then they need assets from Cleveland for Splitter, since SA gains nothing by agreeing to a sign-and-trade on it's own. Portland also gains nothing by doing this trade, so I doubt they go for it. The Cavs would have to pay both to make it happen, and of course they wouldn't, because they have the Haywood contract.

    I'd consider this more viable.

    Spurs trade Diaw and Mills to Cleveland for Christmas and Harris and two seconds to Portland for Aldridge.

    Cleveland trades Christmas, Harris and Haywood for Mills and Diaw

    Portland trades Aldridge ($17.5 Million) for Haywood, Reggie Williams, Harris and two seconds.

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    I don't see anything to make fun of in there. Thanks for searching though - didn't remember the convo at all.
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    I don't see anything to make fun of in there. Thanks for searching though - didn't remember the convo at all.
    Wow...

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    How about Coach Bud for Becky Hammond? Can we finally admit the female coach experiment is a fail?
    You from Turkey too?

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