If the Hawks have a fire sale who would you be interested in for the Spurs?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I don't see anything to make fun of in there. Thanks for searching though - didn't remember the convo at all.

Of course not because the joke is on you. How you like to come into every argument I'm in and try to prove me wrong after shows your intellectual insecurity. It makes sense you wouldn't see it. Quite the opposite is much more likely given that.

I still don't think they're resilient, grit and grind.

[DPG21920]

Of course not because the joke is on you. How you like to come into every argument I'm in and try to prove me wrong after shows your intellectual insecurity. It makes sense you wouldn't see it. Quite the opposite is much more likely given that.

I still don't think they're resilient, grit and grind.

I only engage you on a few things when it's a relevant topic. Other than that, we don't really interact too much. MEM, even with their flaws, is a tough and resilient team. Don't see how that's some win for you, but ok.

[T Park]

I didn't see what was bad about what DPG said either but, go ahead an keep lighting those torches.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I only engage you on a few things when it's a relevant topic. Other than that, we don't really interact too much. MEM, even with their flaws, is a tough and resilient team. Don't see how that's some win for you, but ok.

You only address me now when you think you can win a point. Your not the bravest intellect I've ever run into.

The win was you saying we were stupid for saying that we would sweep and then the Spurs swept. You coming back to try and crow after they had that comeback but still lost is just gold. You don't remember which demonstrates how your memory is poor. Good job.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I didn't see what was bad about what DPG said either but, go ahead an keep lighting those torches.

It's not so much about 'bad' but they are in a pissing contest with me and trying to claim that I have no credibility and am just making up the exchange. He was wrong but youre right it shouldn't be a big deal.

[DPG21920]

I didn't even remember our conversation and you invent these me vs them gladiator matches in your head. Chill.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I didn't even remember our conversation and you invent these me vs them gladiator matches in your head. Chill.

Gladiator match? That was just an example of a similar exchange we had. When I pointed it out after you said I had no credibility you said you couldn't remember. Your memory isn't very good is the main take I get out of it.

You sure seem determined to say you don't care though. Actions still speak louder than words.

[DPG21920]

Huh

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What?

That's not really what he said at all last year w/ regards to LMA. He simply outlined what certain people were proposing would not work (keep everyone). Certain things (like the Tiago trade) changed the known variables.

They would need to also include Mills and Williams to match salaries. If the Spurs are using cap space to sign Aldridge (which is the case in this scenario), then they need assets from Cleveland for Splitter, since SA gains nothing by agreeing to a sign-and-trade on it's own. Portland also gains nothing by doing this trade, so I doubt they go for it. The Cavs would have to pay both to make it happen, and of course they wouldn't, because they have the Haywood contract.

I'd consider this more viable.

Spurs trade Diaw and Mills to Cleveland for Christmas and Harris and two seconds to Portland for Aldridge.

Cleveland trades Christmas, Harris and Haywood for Mills and Diaw

Portland trades Aldridge ($17.5 Million) for Haywood, Reggie Williams, Harris and two seconds.

Stupid is as stupid does. Your memory retention is .

[DPG21920]

What

[Kawhitstorm]

The issue is that the Spurs need a PG who's better than McCallum, and I don't know where they'd find one. Maybe the Grizz are willing to give up Calathes for nothing? Or the Heat want to dump Udrih? If the team had Prigioni instead of McCallum, this would be much less of an issue right now.

Calathes went back to Greece & the Heat need Beno since Tyler Johnson is out for the season. Prigioni was unplayable against the Warriors in last seasons playoffs so he's irrelevant. Again, what the Spurs need is a guard with size (in the CoJo mold) not another midget who gets destroyed on defense.

[cjw]

Is Korver playable against GS? Should be against OKC or Cleveland.

[Kawhitstorm]

The two teams aren't a good match. The Hawks have a bunch of mid-sized contracts (basically their entire rotation) while the Spurs have no expendable mid-sized deals. Unless the team can get Horford for a song, they isn't anything that could work out.

So like this: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jgc9hft Plus three unprotected firsts by the Spurs. That doesn't address Manu retiring (and in fact only exacerbates it), but it does ensure the Spurs of having the best front court for a few more years.

Why in the would the Hawks agree to essentially swap Horford for Simmons when they could get a couple of 1st rd picks & D-Lee from the Celtics?

Diaw has no business on a rebuilding team & they can sign Canaan if they want an undersized gunner.

[Kawhitstorm]

Is Korver playable against GS? Should be against OKC or Cleveland.

He's actually a decent system defender & won't get murdered by Barnes/Iggy plus has the length to defend Livingston in the post. He's actually a better off ball defender than Simmons.

He played well against them last season when the Hawks beat the Worriers: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...502060ATL.html

[Kawhitstorm]

I'm not a fan of any Hawks players, tbh..I'd take Bazemore as a backup wing, but he's probably too good to play that role(although not good enough to be a reliable starter)..

Horford and Millsap are unreliable and awkward for playoff basketball, and Korver is just too old, at this point..

-Bazemore is going to want as much playing time as possible b/c he want to get paid in the Summer so he won't be happy being a backup
-Millsap can't be the #1 option, he's more suited to play the Draymond/Bosh 3rd wheel type role on a contender (i.e. Cavs/OKC)
-Horford would be a major upgrade for the Raptors frontline who could challenge the Cavs if they could land him somehow for Jonas

[sasaint]

Why in the would the Hawks agree to essentially swap Horford for Simmons when they could get a couple of 1st rd picks & D-Lee from the Celtics?

Diaw has no business on a rebuilding team & they can sign Canaan if they want an undersized gunner.

Actually, if you re-read his proposal, the Chinook trade sends the Hawks 3 1st round picks. That is the real incentive in his scenario. But I think that is a pretty steep price. I don't want to follow the Nets down that road.

Diaw might be good on some rebuilding teams for his veteran leadership (assuming he didn't go into his Charlotte mode). However, on the Hawks, he and Millsap together would be a mess, IMHO. But if any team placed much value on Diaw besides the Spurs, it would probably be Atlanta.

I would personally rather have Korver, however, than MCW. I am okay without either one, though.

The Horford situation is just cursed by poor timing. He might fill a huge hole next season, but this season our needs are greater elsewhere.

[San Antonio Slayer]

sounds blasphemous and unreal but I'd rather have Teague over Tony

[Russ]

Actually, if you re-read his proposal, the Chinook trade sends the Hawks 3 1st round picks.

Is that even allowed by the league?

[sasaint]

Is that even allowed by the league?

Great point. Since you point that out, I don't think so, but I defer to the capologists/rules guys among us.

[Mel_13]

Is that even allowed by the league?

Short answer-yes.

For a longer answer, just Google 'Stepien rule'.

[benefactor]

this thread

[Chinook]

Is that even allowed by the league?

Great point. Since you point that out, I don't think so, but I defer to the capologists/rules guys among us.

Mel's got your backs. Spurs could trade four picks straight up if they wanted. They could trade more if they had any extra firsts right now.

[cjw]

He's actually a decent system defender & won't get murdered by Barnes/Iggy plus has the length to defend Livingston in the post. He's actually a better off ball defender than Simmons.

He played well against them last season when the Hawks beat the Worriers: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...502060ATL.html

If only Simmons could learn to get through picks and stop fouling...

[sasaint]

Mel's got your backs. Spurs could trade four picks straight up if they wanted. They could trade more if they had any extra firsts right now.

I beg your indulgence. I thought the rule was implemented to prohibit a team's trading even 2 consecutive #1s... So are you suggesting in your proposal that the Spurs trade 3 non-consecutive #1s?

[Chinook]

I beg your indulgence. I thought the rule was implemented to prohibit a team's trading even 2 consecutive #1s... So are you suggesting in your proposal that the Spurs trade 3 non-consecutive #1s?

Yes: 2016, 2018 and 2020.