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    Is Curry the least physically imposing dominant athlete in pro sports(North America) history? It's the primary reason there are still detractors, despite his historic run(sample size is large enough, at this point)..it's something we have never seen before, not just stylistically, but also physically..

    Wayne Gretzky is the only guy I can think of that rivals him, in that regard..IIRC, Gretzky weighed around 180

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    Is Curry the least physically imposing dominant athlete in pro sports(North America) history? It's the primary reason there are still detractors, despite his historic run(sample size is large enough, at this point)..it's something we have never seen before, not just stylistically, but also physically..

    Wayne Gretzky is the only guy I can think of that rivals him, in that regard..IIRC, Gretzky weighed around 180
    No way Gretzky play as good as he did in todays nhl though, IMO.

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    Kobe and MJ are the only guys that played at a higher level than Steph
    yo, how old are u?

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    Greatest shooter ever, think that goes without saying at this point. Incredible ball-handler, great playmaker, and fantastic passer as well. Only thing he's lacking is great D but he doesn't need to be great there cause his team is full of great defenders.

    That said, no doubt Curry playing on such a talented team makes him look even better. He goes through lots of scoring droughts but it doesn't matter cause his team is so good they just pick up the slack. They're lethal in the open court and almost everyone on that roster can shoot. And they're the best passing team in the league. Just a great all-around team.
    So he's a top 5 player ever, but can't play defense? haha. if yall want to give him credit for being a top all time shooter, then I'm cool with that, but I remember when players like nique and King were criticized because all they did was score. Now it's celebrated. boy the league has changed the past 30 years

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    No way Gretzky play as good as he did in todays nhl though, IMO.
    He wouldn't rack up the points like he did, since today's NHL is more defensive, but he'd still be the league's best offensive player. Jaromir Jagr is 700 years old and is still a top 30 scorer and was a top 5 player less than a decade ago.

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    32 brother

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    He wouldn't rack up the points like he did, since today's NHL is more defensive, but he'd still be the league's best offensive player. Jaromir Jagr is 700 years old and is still a top 30 scorer and was a top 5 player less than a decade ago.
    I've been watching the last 3 years to root against the Coyotes. What I do not understand is the goalie leaving the pipes to mess around with the puck. I cannot believe a coach would permit it.

    The Coyotes were trailing 1-0 with about minute and a half to play about two weeks ago. I'll be a SOB if the goalie didn't leave the net to go around back for the puck and couldn't get back around and the Coyotes scored. That was 1 point already. Goes to OT and the Coyotes won and got the 2 points. I was ing livid here. I wanted to kill and cry at the same time.

    What, Midst, it's like they don't want to make him stay there all night so they hope for the best and let him wander? The announcers never condemn the practice. I see absolutely no point in ever leaving the pipes unless you pull him.

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    No way Gretzky play as good as he did in todays nhl though, IMO.
    Lmao no offense but that's ridiculously stupid

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    I've been watching the last 3 years to root against the Coyotes. What I do not understand is the goalie leaving the pipes to mess around with the puck. I cannot believe a coach would permit it.

    The Coyotes were trailing 1-0 with about minute and a half to play about two weeks ago. I'll be a SOB if the goalie didn't leave the net to go around back for the puck and couldn't get back around and the Coyotes scored. That was 1 point already. Goes to OT and the Coyotes won and got the 2 points. I was ing livid here. I wanted to kill and cry at the same time.

    What, Midst, it's like they don't want to make him stay there all night so they hope for the best and let him wander? The announcers never condemn the practice. I see absolutely no point in ever leaving the pipes unless you pull him.
    Sounds like a bad play. I'm not as up on hockey strategy as IrisHock and lefty, so maybe there was a reason he left the crease. Typically, they should never leave it.

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    Todays NHL is defensive as ..ots not like gretzky can score on 30 footers like curry. Just a different game imo. I'm not an expert in Hockey, but i just dont see it.

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    Sounds like a bad play. I'm not as up on hockey strategy as IrisHock and lefty, so maybe there was a reason he left the crease. Typically, they should never leave it.
    I've seen it repeatedly on many clubs. Drives me insane.

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    Todays NHL is defensive as ..ots not like gretzky can score on 30 footers like curry. Just a different game imo. I'm not an expert in Hockey, but i just dont see it.
    Yes, but Wayne would probably still be the dominant offensive player in this era. Like I said, a 43 year old Jagr is still a top 20 offensive player. Even though hockey is a fast paced and physical game, handeye coordination and smarts are more important than size and athleticism, which is why it isn't unusual to see hockey players play into their 40s.

    Wayne was woefully undersized even in his own era, but his greatest gift was his mind, as many players have said. He just simply saw the game a step ahead of everyone else.

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    Yes, but Wayne would probably still be the dominant offensive player in this era. Like I said, a 43 year old Jagr is still a top 20 offensive player. Even though hockey is a fast paced and physical game, handeye coordination and smarts are more important than size and athleticism, which is why it isn't unusual to see hockey players play into their 40s.

    Wayne was woefully undersized even in his own era, but his greatest gift was his mind, as many players have said. He just simply saw the game a step ahead of everyone else.
    I once saw Kori like that, she'd got out of the shower a step before she got in it.

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    I once saw Kori like that, she'd got out of the shower a step before she got in it.

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    I once saw Kori like that, she'd got out of the shower a step before she got in it.
    Caught a glimpse of the ol' beaver, eh?

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    Is Curry the least physically imposing dominant athlete in pro sports(North America) history? It's the primary reason there are still detractors, despite his historic run(sample size is large enough, at this point)..it's something we have never seen before, not just stylistically, but also physically..

    Wayne Gretzky is the only guy I can think of that rivals him, in that regard..IIRC, Gretzky weighed around 180
    Ichiro Suzuki 5'11" / 170

    Willie Mays 5'10" / 170

    Hank Aaron 6'0" / 180

    Greg Maddux 6'0" / 170
    Last edited by Kawhitstorm; 02-10-2016 at 02:28 AM.

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    He wouldn't rack up the points like he did, since today's NHL is more defensive, but he'd still be the league's best offensive player. Jaromir Jagr is 700 years old and is still a top 30 scorer and was a top 5 player less than a decade ago.
    gretzky would destroy today's NHL... 2 line pass bruh. huuuuge game changer.

    also overtime is 3 on 3 now

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    The offense is so bad in today NHL that they had to play 3 on 3..lol. to be fair, the defense is at a high right now.

    3 vs 3 is ine of the best sporting inovations in my lifetime.

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    Ichiro Suzuki 5'11" / 170

    Willie Mays 5'10" / 170

    Hank Aaron 6'0" / 180

    Greg Maddux 6'0" / 170
    If only baseball was a sport where height really matters. It's an advantage to a pitcher, but not a be-all end-all. If you're a 7' male in the USA you have a 19% chance of playing in the L in your lifetime. That's what height does in the NBA.

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    The offense is so bad in today NHL that they had to play 3 on 3..lol. to be fair, the defense is at a high right now.

    3 vs 3 is ine of the best sporting inovations in my lifetime.
    lol... offense is so bad they had to remove the 2 line pass rule just to help them out

    gretzky would annihilate the NHL with that rule change

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    so they move this thread to the NBA forum but for some reason can't move the jimmer thread to the college sports forum/think tank

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    If only baseball was a sport where height really matters. It's an advantage to a pitcher, but not a be-all end-all. If you're a 7' male in the USA you have a 19% chance of playing in the L in your lifetime. That's what height does in the NBA.
    The All-Time HR/RBI leaders are much bigger than Willie Mays & Maddux dominated in the steroid era without having a rocket arm (still had 3K strikeouts).
    Last edited by Kawhitstorm; 02-10-2016 at 04:24 AM.

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    If Stockton played in today's NBA he would have averaged 40 ppg and 20 apg tbh

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    If only baseball was a sport .

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    I am not sure Magic would say such nice things about Steph.
    Smoke 'n mirrors.


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