Judging people that advocate harm to children is easy. Anybody can do it.
Just walk into the grocery store you shop at, and loudly exclaim:
"I think the children of poor people in this country should be allowed to starve to death".
And see how easily everybody there comes to an appropriate moral judgment.
Human decency is pretty much programmed into us, or most of us. I guess some people can un-learn empathy, and make feeling superior to "other" as more important than empathy.
a lot of people don't vote because Repug have cut back voting stations, esp in black/brown areas, so people have to queue for hours. People can't take off work. and voting should be on a weekday holiday, or moved to Sunday (and Saturday).
Repugs have stopped same-day voter registration, have reduced all kinds of opportunities to vote.
and how do you show your photo ID when your voting by mail?
If South African blacks can do it why can't ours?
whats the point of voting if superdelegates are just gna cuck you anyway
thanks democraps!
/boutons
There's no way Hillary isn't getting the nomination. It's like when everyone decided Iverson was getting MVP the first month of the season.
still find it ironic that after all the whining about republican voting agendas, its the democratic nomination that is more rigged than anything
Fascinating but irrelevant to the point being made.
Again, who the are you to judge and why should I give a what you think? Tell me why does your opinion matter at all?
Typical GOP redhearing IMO....in order to protect you from terror, we will commit terror....in order to protect your privacy were going to invade your privacy....in order to stop massive voter fraud (that we never proved even existed) we're going to commit massive voter fraud.....
This happens every election year... there shouldn't be a problem with photo IDs *if*:
1) The population is educated about the need for such ID well in advance
2) The valid IDs are obtainable without requiring surcharges
3) A proper amount of time is given to obtain one or more of such IDs
Timing is really the key component here. This whole thing gets shady when they file for these laws basically within the year of the election (per par), with little notice, and without enough time to handle the complex cases (ID for another ID, etc).
And, really, that's what happens most of the time. It's difficult to argue it's not disenfranchising when you had 4 years to bring this up and only make your move 10 months before the election.
Obviously, this all obviates the fact that the alleged voter fraud this is supposed to tackle is statistically nearly non-existent. A typical solution looking for a problem.
But going deeper on the psyche of this, I think it has a lot to do with denial of certain part of the electorate when it comes to understanding the demographics shift of the population in this county.
let them vote, superdelegates will just negate them anyway tbh fwiw imo
Everywhere I have worked, You need social security card AND photo ID. The only way i can use just one form is with a passport.
You have never worked an hourly job where all they wanted was a social security card? I worked a few in college and none ever asked for anything more than SS. I'm not talking career level work or an internship where they're trying to hire something more than a warm body, I'm talking about the kind of stuff poor old people and young people would have. Those are the two demographics these voter ID laws are targeting for suppression to chip a couple of percent away.
I only have a photo ID because of white privilege, tbh.
(shrugs)
I am merely someone with morals that are arguably superior to yours, or if you prefer, some random guy (HA) on the internets. Whether that means you should give a depends on whether you consider yourself a decent person, because that might cause you a bit of cognitive dissonance.
I don't really care either way. It is what it is. You are a horrible person, and provably so to a reasonable degree to just about anybody who cares to read a short internet exchange.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post6950515
Not sure what your confusion is on this.
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The subject of the OP was GOP policy fraud aimed at disenfranchising Democratic voters. That makes other efforts at disenfranchising Democratic voters relevant. It paints a pattern of organized, unethical behavior on the part of a major political party, the main thrust of the thread.
QED.
Unless, of course you can outline why it is irrelevant, other than the fact you find the fact that the Republican party actively engaging in unethical behavior makes you uncomfortable for some reason, and want to claim it is irrelevant just to nullify it by personal fiat. That isn't how one gets to truth, sophist. Try that in court sometime, see how it works. "Your honor, that weapon used to kill the victim is irrelevant to this murder trial, because I say it is".
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I am talking about those type of jobs also. Always needed two forms of ID or a passport.
Not sure if it is the laws of my state, but i live in a democrat-controlled state,
i've needed photo ID for every ty part time job i've held tbh, from working at the ucla call center to a frozen yogurt shop during high school
I also worked at the UCLA call center and just needed my Bruin Card to establish I'd get paid the UCLA student wage instead of the standard wage. I know that's a photo ID, but it's not a state issued photo ID like you need to vote with. And I let my state issued photo ID expire because I had no reason to have one without a car in school.
no way... in hated that job, but iirc its the highest paying campus job. apparently before my time there callers used to get commission on pledges
Yeah, I hated that too, but I worked it because it paid higher than anything at Ackerman. Though I only worked it long enough to pay my rent for the quarter. Still, the worst hourly job I had back then was at one of the large video game publishers in the area testing multiplayer connectivity and , because 70% of the time there was no work to do and there is nothing worse than being at work with nothing whatsoever to do. Only had to show SS for that job.
I dunno dude. Seems to me like the Democratic party's practice of awarding superdelegates is aimed disenfranchising democratic voters as well.The subject of the OP was GOP policy fraud aimed at disenfranchising Democratic voters. That makes other efforts at disenfranchising Democratic voters relevant. It paints a pattern of organized, unethical behavior on the part of a major political party, the main thrust of the thread.
QED.
Unless, of course you can outline why it is irrelevant, other than the fact you find the fact that the Republican party actively engaging in unethical behavior makes you uncomfortable for some reason, and want to claim it is irrelevant just to nullify it by personal fiat. That isn't how one gets to truth, sophist. Try that in court sometime, see how it works. "Your honor, that weapon used to kill the victim is irrelevant to this murder trial, because I say it is".
Yeah, both parties doing a bang-up job.
Super-delegates do seem to be a bit anti-democratic within the party.
I have to ask: does that keep people from voting in general or local elections?
No it does not. However it does render their vote meaningless. Another thing to remember is that this practice of the Democratic party is actually in place. The "supposed" voter suppression of the Republic party is not.
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