Bundy ranch situation in Nevada

[I. Hustle]

Lame. I thought it said BUNNY ranch. Go back to arguing.

[Quetzal-X]

christians stay taking L's...tbh

[Quetzal-X]

This actually thinks god wants anything to do with christians. Holy , these christians make up on the fly and carry guns and point them at federal agents. She is going into chains and z like Kool are gonna have the whole bundy camp picking cotton.

[Splits]

Cliven and all these domestic terrorists are in a world of trouble.



Here's the full complaint: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzg...w?pref=2&pli=1



Santelli (co-conspirator 4) gonna be in the pokey for quite some time

Any ideas on co-conspirators 1-3?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Cliven and all these domestic terrorists are in a world of trouble.



Here's the full complaint: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzg...w?pref=2&pli=1



Santelli (co-conspirator 4) gonna be in the pokey for quite some time

Any ideas on co-conspirators 1-3?

Does treason/sedition law still merit the death penalty?

[Splits]

Does treason/sedition law still merit the death penalty?

Unfortunately he isn't charged with that, but dude is going to die in a prison cell that's for sure.

[Splits]

Charge 1: up to 5 years
Charge 2: up to 1 year
Charge 3: up to 7 years
Charge 4: up to 10 years
Charge 5: up to 20 years



3%ers must be co-conspirators 1-3, they're going to face similar

[TheSanityAnnex]

Speaking of phobes. . . .

What's your point?

Still wishcasting that the audio will have your militia types not at fault?

You get so caught in minutiae and desperate to win a point its hilarious. You still have no proof but hope, dip .

You accused me of parroting an infowars article and asked for a link to show i didnt. I linked you to the video I posted and my comments both of which came before the article you linked was ever created.
my militia types? I've called them idiots from the start

[TheSanityAnnex]

Link is above, audio only.

You ruined it Splits. I've been having a good time watching Quetzal talk to himself with no replies.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I have no knowledge of the 20 years of harassment and attempted land grab the BLM inflicted on the militants. In your own words, can you give me a brief synopsis?

The 20 years has nothing to do with the militants so can't help you there. If you want to know about what happened to the Hammonds it's posted in this thread 10+ pages back.

[Quetzal-X]

Militia whites crying about land grabs. lol I love that there are other white christians like these inbred violent beasts that will drink themselves to sleep. I ing love that . Land Grabs? lol thats rich.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You accused me of parroting an infowars article and asked for a link to show i didnt. I linked you to the video I posted and my comments both of which came before the article you linked was ever created.
my militia types? I've called them idiots from the start

My point is that you regularly parrot that . I don't feel like filtering and digging through vicenews and the regular stupidity every single time. Fact is they are the only outlets that are repeating what you are saying.

You call them idiots yet you make excuses for them. Your actions speak louder than words. You are completely biased and full of . It is what it is.

[TheSanityAnnex]

My point is that you regularly parrot that . I don't feel like filtering and digging through vicenews and the regular stupidity every single time. Fact is they are the only outlets that are repeating what you are saying.

You call them idiots yet you make excuses for them. Your actions speak louder than words. You are completely biased and full of . It is what it is.

No, your point was a very specific infowars article that you linked and now that you have been proven to be full of on that point you are now moving the goal posts and wishcasting. It is what it is.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No, your point was a very specific infowars article that you linked and now that you have been proven to be full of on that point you are now moving the goal posts and wishcasting. It is what it is.

What do mutually exclusive mean? Remember that "Hmmm.. trust PBS or TSA and his breitbart takes" thread from a year or two ago. It all ties in, dimwit.

Failing to understand mutual exclusivity in attempted deductions is a great litmus tests for idiots. I've been rubbing your face in it for years and you still fail.

Youre boring, I'm not going to bother hitting view post next time. Youre as stupid as you ever were failing the same fails.

[Splits]

Oldie but goodie: http://www.cc.com/video-clips/ehanpl...f-cliven-bundy

[Th'Pusher]

The 20 years has nothing to do with the militants so can't help you there. If you want to know about what happened to the Hammonds it's posted in this thread 10+ pages back.

I don't really want to wade through your walls of texts. Would you mind just summarizing it for me?

[TheSanityAnnex]

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I have sufficient impulse control for this task. You can always try quoting me and including your message in a few words cause of the notification system.

Sufficient impulse control

[TheSanityAnnex]

I don't really want to wade through your walls of texts. Would you mind just summarizing it for me?

Th'Lazy

[TheSanityAnnex]

Was wrong on 20 years Pusher almost 50 years

In 1964 the Hammonds purchased their ranch in the Harney Basin. The purchase included approximately 6000 acres of private property, 4 grazing rights on public land, a small ranch house and 3 water rights. The ranch is around 53 miles South of Burns, Oregon.

(a1) By the 1970’s nearly all the ranches adjacent to the Blitzen Valley were purchased by the US Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) and added to the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. The refuge covers over 187,000 acres and stretches over 45 miles long and 37 miles wide. The expansion of the refuge grew and surrounds to the Hammond’s ranch. Being approached many times by the FWS, the Hammonds refused to sell. Other ranchers also choose not to sell.


(a2) During the 1970’s the Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS), in conjunction with the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), took a different approach to get the ranchers to sell. Ranchers were told that, “grazing was detrimental to wildlife and must be reduced”. 32 out of 53 permits were revoked and many ranchers were forced to leave. Grazing fees were raised significantly for those who were allowed to remain. Refuge personnel took over the irrigation system claiming it as their own.


(a3) By 1980 a conflict was well on its way over water allocations on the adjacent privately owned Silvies Plain. The FWS wanted to acquire the ranch lands on the Silvies Plain to add to their already vast holdings. Refuge personnel intentional diverted the water to bypassing the vast meadowlands, directing the water into the rising Malheur Lakes. Within a few short years the surface area of the lakes doubled. Thirty-one ranches on the Silvies plains were flooded. Homes, corrals, barns and graze-land were washed a way and destroyed. The ranchers that once fought to keep the FWS from taking their land, now broke and destroyed, begged the FWS to acquire their useless ranches. In 1989 the waters began to recede and now the once thriving privately owned Silvies pains are a proud part of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge claimed by the FWS.




(a4) By the 1990’s the Hammonds were one of the very few ranchers that still owned private property adjacent to the refuge. Susie Hammond in an effort to make sense of what was going on began compiling fact about the refuge. In a hidden public record she found a study that was done by the FWS in 1975. The study showed that the “no use” policies of the FWS on the refuge were causing the wildlife to leave the refuge and move to private property. The study showed that the private property adjacent to the Malheur Wildlife Refuge produced 4 times more ducks and geese than the refuge did. It also showed that the migrating birds were 13 times more likely to land on private property than on the refuge. When Susie brought this to the attention of the FWS and refuge personnel, her and her family became the subjects of a long train of abuses and corruptions.


(b) In the early 1990’s the Hammonds filed on a livestock water source and obtained a deed for the water right from the State of Oregon. When the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and US Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) found out that the Hammonds obtained new water rights near the Malhuer Wildlife Refuge, they were agitated and became belligerent and vindictive towards the Hammonds. The US Fish and Wildlife Service challenged the Hammonds right to the water in an Oregon State Circuit Court. The court found that the Hammonds legally obtained rights to the water in accordance to State law and therefore the use of the water belongs to the Hammonds.*


(c) In August 1994 the BLM & FWS illegally began building a fence around the Hammonds water source. Owning the water rights and knowing that their cattle relied on that water source daily the Hammonds tried to stop the building of the fence. The BLM & FWS called the Harney County Sheriff department and had Dwight Hammond (Father) arrested and charged with "disturbing and interfering with" federal officials or federal contractors (two counts, each a felony). He spent one night in the Deschutes County Jail in Bend, and a second night behind bars in Portland before he was hauled before a federal magistrate and released without bail. A hearing on the charges was postponed and the federal judge never set another date.


(d) The FWS also began restricting access to upper pieces of the Hammond’s private property. In order to get to the upper part of the Hammond’s ranch they had to go on a road that went through the Malhuer Wildlife Refuge. The FWS began barricading the road and threatening the Hammonds if they drove through it. The Hammonds removed the barricades and gates and continued to use their right of access. The road was proven later to be owned by the County of Harney. This further enraged the BLM & FWS.


(e) Shortly after the road & water disputes, the BLM & FWS arbitrarily revoked the Hammond’s upper grazing permit without any given cause, court proceeding or court ruling. As a traditional “fence out state” Oregon requires no obligation on the part of an owner to keep his or her livestock within a fence or to maintain control over the movement of the livestock. The Hammonds intended to still use their private property for grazing. However, they were informed that a federal judge ruled, in a federal court, that the federal government did not have to observe the Oregon fence out law. “Those laws are for the people, not for them”.


(f) The Hammonds were forced to either build and maintain miles of fences or be restricted from the use of their private property. Cutting their ranch in almost half, they could not afford to fence the land, so the cattle were removed.

(g) The Hammonds experienced many years of financial hardship due to the ranch being diminished. The Hammonds had to sell their ranch and home in order to purchase another property that had enough grass to feed their cattle. This property included two grazing rights on public land. Those were also arbitrarily revoked later.

[Th'Pusher]

Th'Lazy

interested enough to read a few bullet points, not interested enough to read through 35 pages of posts. thanks though.

[ChumpDumper]

Was wrong on 20 years Pusher almost 50 years

Is there a link to this or is it excluded for a reason?

[Th'Pusher]

Is there a link to this or is it excluded for a reason?

http://bundyranch.blogspot.com/2015/...mond-case.html

seems pretty objective

[ChumpDumper]

Was wrong on 20 years Pusher almost 50 years

http://bundyranch.blogspot.com/2015/...mond-case.html

seems pretty objective

Is this where you got it, TSA?

[boutons_deux]

Militants warn authorities about booby traps left behind at Oregon reserve


http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/mili...e+Raw+Story%29

[Quetzal-X]

I hope those terrorist white christians get Allll their taken. Leave them in the streets naked. Land grabs lol Someone help me find where I can donate a case of Maize Mash so the whole family can drinky drinky beddy bye bye . it a few cartons of marlboros too . Leaving booby traps? More $$$ gonna be spent trying to find em if any.

White Christian Terrorism-*since 1492