I've been against "force feeding" or overusing Kawhi in the post, but I think I should clarify that not all post situations are equal. I'm wholeheartedly against Kawhi being used like Kobe, where he gets the ball in the high-high post on the wing about 12-18 feet from the basket and Dreamshakes for 15 seconds only to lauch up a fadeaway jumper. It's an inefficient and ball stopping option. And it's why Kobe, as good as his per game stats are, has underwhelming metrics for a player of his caliber. It might look pretty and raise per game scoring averages, but it causes the offense to stagnate.
But I love, love, the "dribble into the post game." This is where Kawhi keeps his dribble active and navigates toward the center of the court and into the paint. Forward to 1:40 and you'll see Hakeem doing a couple of "dribble into the post moves."
It's a much, much superior variety than the Kobe-style. You can't really swarm it and it collapses the defense much like good penetration, so it keeps your offense in motion rather than standing around and ball watching (like the Lakers role players have notoriously done for the last decade).
If this is what Kawhi's biggest fans on here mean by "post," then I'm all for using it as much as possible. So yes, "Gib bawl to Kiwi in poast."
But the Kobe/Carmelo-style
And we need some gifs of Kawhi's dribble-post moves. He's had some pretty ones over the past few games.
Everyone wants KAwhi to get it in the low post but the entry passer can't ing do it. A team learning process. Kawhi himself is a GREAT entry passer but he can't pass it to himself. The team as a whole needs to practice entry passes for the love of god.
This is not a Kawhi problem. This is a team problem. Even Sean says it like every other game.
The fact that you thought Kawhi wants it 12+ feet out makes me realize you need to go watch more basketball.
Man.. Hakeem and his footwork.
its like mchale + athleticism
People who didn't watch Dream in person just don't understand. There has literally never been another player like him. I don't think we will ever see anything like him again.
That move on DRob at 4:38...Jesus.
I told you this on the other thread. Post up id not force feeding. Rewatch atlanta last year.
Least you could have done is take the L..now your using my whole point as your original thought in a new thread.
Dissapointed in yoy mid
I was just going to say this. The dude needs to move on already. He is pretty shook though.
Take what loss?
You didn't define what type of post-play?
Low post? Kobe-style post? Dribble posts? When you made your Kawhi has the prettiest post game since prime Kobe, that implied you're a fan of him getting the ball in the "Kobe spot."
Kobe-style posts are garbage. Why do you think Melo and Kobe, even at his peak, have relatively low +/-/RAPM metrics and the like? Nothing stagnates an offense more or is easier to defend than a wing player posting up from the midrange out beyond on the elbow. It doesn't collapse defenses, doesn't force as much defensive rotation, and is a harder spot to playmake from. To be clear, this is the spot on the floor I'm referring to, the Kobe spot:
Pop knows this. Kawhi's "Kobe posts" aren't as frequent as they once were and we're seeing more dribble-posting going toward the middle of the floor (better for drawing in defense and gives the offensive player more passing options).
I didn't make this thread to pretend I had an original idea, just to clarify what kind of post play I'm against.
Took this dude 1 hour to lurk and reply. ing loser.
Keeps thinking Kawhi doesn't want it in the low post.
Took this dude 1 hour to lurk and reply. ing loser.
Keeps thinking Kawhi doesn't want it in the low post.
"Kiwi want bawl in low poast."
And why do you think I'm blaming Kawhi? He'll follow Pop's gameplan. If he was Kobe-posting more than posting down on the block or dribble posting, then it's on Pop, which is why I said he made the adjustment to have Kawhi shift into more dribble-posting.
And having a SF operate in the low post with two other low post bigs isn't that good for spacing.
The move Hakeem made at 1:40 is actually a Manu/Porker/Wade special, Gary Payton also used it.
Besides, Kawhi plays bully ball like Melo rather than trying to pump fake defenders out of their shoe like Kirby/Wade. What Kawhi needs is counters like Hakeem to be unstoppable in the post b/c you'll see him often passing out the ball when the defender stops his initial move for a fadeaway or jump hook. An up-&-under or being able to finish w/ his left (so he could show one way & go the other) will help him tremendously.
So ing re ed bro. Usually Kawhi starts in the low block and his teammates can't send an entry pass so he moves out to the perimeter.
"Kiwi want bawl in low poast.
And why do you think I'm blaming Kawhi? He'll follow Pop's gameplan. If he was Kobe-posting more than posting down on the block or dribble posting, then it's on Pop, which is why I said he made the adjustment to have Kawhi shift into more dribble-posting.
And having a SF operate in the low post with two other low post bigs isn't that good for spacing.
Then he just starts in the perimeter because he knows that's the hardest pass his teammates can make.
It's like you don't watch Spurs basketball got.
Mid needs to reevaluate himself so he can be a good poster again.
Mid needs to stroke kiwi's shaft so he can be a good poster again.
Seriously?So ing re ed bro. Usually Kawhi starts in the low block and his teammates can't send an entry pass so he moves out to the perimeter.
Then he just starts in the perimeter because he knows that's the hardest pass his teammates can make.
It's like you don't watch Spurs basketball got.
There's no team nor scheme on this planet that would start off their SF in the low block, especially one that is one of the best 3 point shooters in the league
Now, when they go small and Kawhi is at the 4, it's a different story. But in most cases, Kawhi will start off an offensive possession on the perimeter, from either the 3 point line or the mid-range. Do you understand how deadly Kawhi is when catches the ball behind the arc? Defenses have to close because of how great a shooter he is. If he doesn't shoot the 3, he can drive, pull up from the mid range, or dribble-post. And he has a variety of playmaking options from that scenario.
Stay tuned. I think it's time to do a play-by-play and show your lot just how Kawhi is doing most of his offensive damage lately.
And what's funny is I'm singing Kawhi's praises. But the re ed crew wants him used like Kirby/Melo because of fanboy reasons. Basically for the team to stand around and watch Kawhi "go to work."
Shut up got you don't know what you're talking about. I already explained it to you. You don't know about basketball. Kevin love type player. Needs more spacing.
"No one can make entry passesShut up got you don't know what you're talking about. I already explained it to you. You don't know about basketball. Kevin love type player. Needs more spacing.
Which is funny considering Tim Duncan is on the team, and Parker and Manu have been playing with him for over a decade.
I'll make it simple.
Kawhi getting the ball on the perimeter in a triple threat position (yes, he can dribble into the post from there)
Kawhi playing Kobeball
Did you just name drop Duncan like he entry passes to Kawhi? What a ing joke.
I rarely see Tony parker do it since he is always looking for his and Manu is always running the show with the second unit and he is rarely going to go for a Kawhi post up.
It's like you don't watch the Spurs ing play got.
Jesus. I think you just might be re ed. Not in the Internet sense, but actually a special needs case.Did you just name drop Duncan like he entry passes to Kawhi? What a ing joke.
What color is your helmet?
You are a ing moron dude. Serious. No one is even coming in here an agreeing with you. All the hate I get and no one is telling me I'm wrong besides you OP who made the thread.
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