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    MCW for Kyle I'd do...not for Patty though

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    He's an awkward fit in the bucks bc he can't shoot, but neither can Jabari, or Antetoukoumpo. The only one who can shoot is Middleton. Since they will not trade Jabari or Antetoukoumpo they need a guard who can shoot, so they can run things through their forwards mire. They worked better with knight, who could shoot.
    MCW did impress me defensively TBH, personally he has a lot of potential in that area, but he needs to be surrounded by shooting,which thinking about it our starting lineup has a lot of.
    Cheers! If his d is so good, and we can get chip to work on him, then he'd be worth a first round pick or perhaps an end of bench player. Though looking at his stats his shooting isn't improving. Anyone know if he's a gym rat? Is he putting in the effort?

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    Swapping Dragic with Teague isn't going to make that much of a difference, might as well have kept Chalmers if they wanted a spot-up shooter playing point guard.
    Probably some other picks involved tbh

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    All teams are gonna stay put tbh

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    Take it with grain of salt..he's a Sheridan hoops writer..but if this the blood clots issue again ..

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    Cheers! If his d is so good, and we can get chip to work on him, then he'd be worth a first round pick or perhaps an end of bench player. Though looking at his stats his shooting isn't improving. Anyone know if he's a gym rat? Is he putting in the effort?
    Id take MCW as the 3rd sting PG.

    No need to give up Mills or Anderson. At most he's worth the 29th pick in this weak draft, and McCallum for $$ matching and roster spot.

    We already have two solid prospects in Bertans and LJC likely coming this summer. MCW is probably better than what ever PG prospect is available at 29 notwithstanding his age.

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    Id take MCW for both the first and 2nd round and ray. Tbh.

    I hate his game but the warriors have killed both parker and mills in the same game. Play against the warriors and bench him in every matchup

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    Too bad if its serious. Bosh is a class act and seems like a good guy.

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    Probably already posted but there was an article on the mysa saying that Broussard suggested the Spurs should go for Ariza.

    http://m.mysanantonio.com/sports/spu...rs-6832233.php

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    i would start patty. schroder would replace him off the bench. manu would still handle the ball more.
    Danny meanwhile will run the offense with the starters

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    Take it with grain of salt..he's a Sheridan hoops writer..but if this the blood clots issue again ..
    He has a calf strain.... but yes the tweet is mystifying, specially bc he said that the lung blood clot was from a calf clot that travelled to his lung.

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    Id take MCW as the 3rd sting PG.

    No need to give up Mills or Anderson. At most he's worth the 29th pick in this weak draft, and McCallum for $$ matching and roster spot.

    We already have two solid prospects in Bertans and LJC likely coming this summer. MCW is probably better than what ever PG prospect is available at 29 notwithstanding his age.
    Agree with this, defensively he's the real deal, which was supposed to be Ray' s role. If only the bucks would take that. But Ray can shoot better and he started for the kings. He plays well of other ppl. He might help them and he's also 24.

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    He has a calf strain.... but yes the tweet is mystifying, specially bc he said that the lung blood clot was from a calf clot that travelled to his lung.
    Yes, that is basically the scary and sad conclusion after his abrupt withdrawal from ASG..i really do hope Chris is OK and this just lower part ailment..he seemed to be in good spirits last night on the bench..

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    Ray and a first for MCW would be dope!

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    He's an awkward fit in the bucks bc he can't shoot, but neither can Jabari, or Antetoukoumpo. The only one who can shoot is Middleton. Since they will not trade Jabari or Antetoukoumpo they need a guard who can shoot, so they can run things through their forwards mire. They worked better with knight, who could shoot.
    MCW did impress me defensively TBH, personally he has a lot of potential in that area, but he needs to be surrounded by shooting,which thinking about it our starting lineup has a lot of.
    I already fought the battle of MCW on another thread. Tbh, nobody comes into the Spurs' system and makes significant impact in the playoffs after half a season unless they are already somewhat familiar with it. I would not be willing to give up anybody on our roster for MCW. His D might be good, but he will never shoot the ball well enough to be a reasonable NBA-level offensive threat. In the few minutes he would be able to play, he would not put us over the top against GS. Unless Tim's tires have fallen off at last, I bet we stand pat. All the anticipation and speculation is kind of interesting but, as in every other respect, the Spurs are not like other NBA teams. I bet we stand pat.

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    I don't see us getting any targets. If we are willing to lose Anderson then we might net something in return. If not, Bonner and Butler are not giving us anything useable in return.

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    This.


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    This.

    Yep. Lots of smoke, very little fire.

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    I already fought the battle of MCW on another thread. Tbh, nobody comes into the Spurs' system and makes significant impact in the playoffs after half a season unless they are already somewhat familiar with it. I would not be willing to give up anybody on our roster for MCW. His D might be good, but he will never shoot the ball well enough to be a reasonable NBA-level offensive threat. In the few minutes he would be able to play, he would not put us over the top against GS. Unless Tim's tires have fallen off at last, I bet we stand pat. All the anticipation and speculation is kind of interesting but, as in every other respect, the Spurs are not like other NBA teams. I bet we stand pat.
    I actually like MCW defensively more than I like Ray, who has barely played. I wasn't willing to give up Anderson like you thought either, more than just not opposed to it. Anderson for him doesn't make sense though for either team bc Bucks have 2 young forwards and need guards and we have young forwards in the pipeline but there are issues of health with Bertans who make it questionable whether he will hold up or turn into another Tiago, while Cady did not look at any point as a better prospect than Anderson, who is a more skilled and much smarter player. All things considered Anderson is our best young prospect (don't consider kawhi a prospect, he's a star, and while I am high on Simmons I am less so than most others who are impressed by just his athleticism but overlook other things)

    Anderson may also play a larger role for us if Timmy doesn't hold up or Diaw continues coasting and may be relied upon more next season, so I am not eager to discard him..

    My comment was even in the sense that Pop was refusing to play Ray when Tony was stinking it up like he did against the Lakers. But you are wrong that MCW may not help us, the problem really is that to play him you have to bench Patty or Tony and if you are unwilling to bench those two when the situation calls for it why the trade.

    If we go further on my feelings about the subject, my real concern is really Tony. Moving forward, Tony doesn't shoot, doesn't space the floor and is both ball dominant and lacking in court vision. On top of that he can't defend, needs to be rested, injury prone at this stage of his career and is on a downturn. The less offense you run through him, the less you need him and the less he helps you, he's been an offensive player, and a rather selfish one. For our future I would rather have a defensive PG. I'll be flamed for coming this hard on Tony but we can't win with him and Patty, both too small and unable to give the team a defensive option when you need one. The spot that is for grabs is Ray' s.

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    Most teams have prolly given in to the inevitable that the Dubs will be running the NBA for the foreseeable future and have gone all-in for developing their younger talent and getting a higher draft pick rather than trying to get playoff experience.

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    Unless Tim's tires have fallen off at last, I bet we stand pat. All the anticipation and speculation is kind of interesting but, as in every other respect, the Spurs are not like other NBA teams. I bet we stand pat.
    Mid-season acquisitions:

    2011: Danny Green
    2012: Stephen Jackson
    2013: Baynes/T-Mac
    2014: Daye
    2015: JaMychal Green

    2016 is more like 2013 since the team just needs to fortify a position (point guard) & pick up a vet (Kevin Martin?) from the waiver wire if Manu is going to be out for an extended period. (Waive/trade Bonner/Ray)

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    Probably already posted but there was an article on the mysa saying that Broussard suggested the Spurs should go for Ariza.

    http://m.mysanantonio.com/sports/spu...rs-6832233.php
    Zach Harper has mentioned that Ariza may be the most to blame for Houston's bad season. Apparently he's been god awful in transition defense and has given up on the team.

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    we have a legitimate and flagrant hole in that position..arguably much worse depth than in 2014..no Cojo/Manu coming off a delicate injury/Parker 2 years older, defenseless and extremely inconsistent/Mills can't playmake and susceptible to shooting droughts..Ray Mccaalyum getting playoffs minutes ..
    i think our PG situation is better than last year, Mills was pretty bad last season as was Parker but this season both have been better, Parker in particular. Cojo was a luxury very few teams have competent 3 string PGs let alone above average one.

    The lack of size at PG is an issue. They can't hide against the Warriors size.

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    Mid-season acquisitions:

    2011: Danny Green
    2012: Stephen Jackson
    2013: Baynes/T-Mac
    2014: Daye
    2015: JaMychal Green

    2016 is more like 2013 since the team just needs to fortify a position (point guard) & pick up a vet (Kevin Martin?) from the waiver wire if Manu is going to be out for an extended period. (Waive/trade Bonner/Ray)
    Diaw and Mills were both signed after the trade deadline in 2012.

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