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    Tbh, although he has never been a great defender, Martin is more interesting to me than MCW. Maybe if he had a shot at a chip, Martin could D-up...
    Kevin Martin and D-up is an oxymoron that you shoudn't try and put together.

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    This is shaping up to be a very slow deadline. It's a FA bonanza with a rising cap and I can't see teams giving that potential up for trades. Even the rumor mill is really confined to a small group of players (Dwight, Whiteside, Teague, Horford)

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    Morris is very, very good. Any deal they can get now they can get in the off season IMO.
    He is, but teams will likely have more options by then. If teams are offering them first rounders, you take it.

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    Wow suns are delusional. They have zero bargaining power at this point with morris. Just get the best picks you dumbasses
    Not true. People want him (like the Cavs and Raps) so as long the Suns wait they can get something good for him. He's a good player and is on a good contract if am not mistaken. Plenty of bargaining power.

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    Is really that good a defender? I know next to nothing about MCW. Obviously the 76ers didn't mind giving him up even after a ROY campaign. Why might be be headed to a third team in such a young career?
    He's a poor offensive player, and one of the worst shooters you'll ever see at the PG position

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    I don't know why people want MCW. Unless they think Chip can work another miracle, I don't think he fits anything the spurs are trying to do.

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    I really hope that's not the case. Bosh is one of my favs and a good guy.

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    Kevin Martin and D-up is an oxymoron that you shoudn't try and put together.
    He is a net negative against legit compe ion to play extended minutes in the playoffs ala Marco. He had a chance to show his worth when he played for OKC & Westbrook got injured but he essentially got outscored by Tony Allen in the last 4 games of the 2nd rd series.

    He would essentially be replacing Marco but he isn't as good a shooter nor does he have huge balls.

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    I really hope that's not the case. Bosh is one of my favs and a good guy.
    He was the only player on those championship heat teams I liked

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    I would much rather have our draft pick this year than to trade for MCW. There will be some good developmental players available when we select, ones that are younger and better shooters than MCW. A defensive-minded PG with some offensive game like Gary Payton Jr. comes to mind. A 3&D prospect like Wayne Seldon could be available too, who would be a great eventual replacement for Danny.

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    I really hope that's not the case. Bosh is one of my favs and a good guy.
    Yeah, Bosh is a class act. Hope he can recover.

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    Geezus, I'll help him pack. Who said Horford doesn't have moves down low?

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    He's a poor offensive player, and one of the worst shooters you'll ever see at the PG position
    Again, he SHOULDN'T be playing PG but rather the Shumpert role. He can get his buckets by posting up, driving or cutting like Fathead. Pop can essentially play him alongside Manu & let him guard the point guard.

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    He's a poor offensive player, and one of the worst shooters you'll ever see at the PG position
    Rubio without the pretty passes, I guess.

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    I want athletic big like nerlens Noel. What would be awesome if coach bud or brown would help us out. If they did and it was asbursd trade people would wonder if pop or Spurs can make trades with former assiasnts/ coaches. Pop pull out a trade like when lakers got Pau and pop was pissed. It's pops time.

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    Again, he SHOULDN'T be playing PG but rather the Shumpert role. He can get his buckets by posting up, driving or cutting like Fathead. Pop can essentially play him alongside Manu & let him guard the point guard.
    I already said I wouldn't mind him, despite hating his game, as long as he isn't starting..he's not a legit NBA starter, at least not yet..

    There's a 1% chance that the Spurs actually acquire him, though..

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    I would much rather have our draft pick this year than to trade for MCW. There will be some good developmental players available when we select, ones that are younger and better shooters than MCW. A defensive-minded PG with some offensive game like Gary Payton Jr. comes to mind. A 3&D prospect like Wayne Seldon could be available to, who would be a great eventual replacement for Danny.
    I like GPII & PATFO aren't giving up a 1st rd pick b/c you'll never know who might drop to 29. The only thing I could see happening is if Pop likes MCW & isn't too fond of Fathead so he just swaps them along w/ Ray.

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    He is a net negative against legit compe ion to play extended minutes in the playoffs ala Marco. He had a chance to show his worth when he played for OKC & Westbrook got injured but he essentially got outscored by Tony Allen in the last 4 games of the 2nd rd series.

    He would essentially be replacing Marco but he isn't as good a shooter nor does he have huge balls.
    Wow, that's amazingly bad.

    Like I said, if we were willing to make a big move for Horford, I'd rather see us make a big move for a combo guard who might really make a difference. That is probably because I see more potential in our young guys than you, but I wouldn't mind moving a more substantial piece for good value.

    But maybe Chip could eventually fix MCW... He made Tony's shot passable...

    We may disagree on MCW, but I have to hand it to you: you have a great memory.

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    The roster has some flaws that they could improve in an ideal universe(could use a defensive PG as an alternate, maybe a shot blocking bench big), but the only real "hole" is the backup SF spot..on paper, you could do better than Rasual or Anderson/Simmons..

    If the Spurs are going to make a move, that's the only hole I could think of filling..I'd be very surprised if they actually make a move, though..

    You have to assume that they are very happy with their historic start, despite the inconsistencies of key players + injuries, even with the Warriors' intimidating results..

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    as long as he isn't starting..he's not a legit NBA starter, at least not yet....
    Porker would have to Pop's daughter to permanently lose his starting job even if Curry was his backup

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    I can't wait to see how badly Tom Rivers messes up a Griffin trade

    I'm expecting something like this: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jtqspvn

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    The roster has some flaws that they could improve in an ideal universe(could use a defensive PG as an alternate, maybe a shot blocking bench big), but the only real "hole" is the backup SF spot..on paper, you could do better than Rasual or Anderson/Simmons..
    The intriguing part about MCW is that he can guard wings so he can essentially play backup SF along w/ the Manu/Patty backcourt. Tbh, if he was a 6ft midget then I wouldn't care much about him.

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    He is a net negative against legit compe ion to play extended minutes in the playoffs ala Marco. He had a chance to show his worth when he played for OKC & Westbrook got injured but he essentially got outscored by Tony Allen in the last 4 games of the 2nd rd series.

    He would essentially be replacing Marco but he isn't as good a shooter nor does he have huge balls.
    My point exactly. Not sure I want a guy that can't defend a statue to save his life, plus get outscored by Tony Allen in a playoff series. Says everything about him right there.

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    Yeah, and I didn't want LMA if it meant losing Green, for the exact reason I don't want to trade him for Horford now. The team would have no starting two-guard and would be a paper tiger. The Spurs clearly wanted to keep Green as well, hence why they gave away Splitter.
    They gave up damaged goods in Splitter to get Aldridge NOT to keep Green. They passed on keeping a combination of Joseph, Belinelli and Baynes to keep Green. It was the right move because Green took a discount to stay. Where would the Spurs be right now had they not been able to land Aldridge? Getting rid of Splitter was the move of the offseason.

    The Spurs won't be concerned with replacing Tim until he's gone, and they only want to give him the best chance to win another le. Moving Green for Horford DOESN'T do that, because it's a perimeter-oriented game, and you need guards who can defend more than you need a third high-level big. And again, you're in favor of making one of Diaw or West the fifth big and completely skewing the roster. That's what's twisted.
    Tim's knee injury is a concern. He isn't providing much on offense but his rebounding and defense would be sorely missed. Horford would be added insurance and a possible key pickup for seasons to come. Tim may not play next season and David West doesn't have much left either.

    But that you ignore or don't know how much better he's been suggests you haven't been watching recent games. I call that hate, as it's not grounded in reality.
    I've watched all the games and I've seen the Spurs pile up wins DESPITE Green's inconsistent play. He's a good player but he's not a difference maker unless he's playing his best. He's been inconsistent and he's always been one dimensional on offense. If his 3 isn't falling he's a liability with NO gravitational pull. At least Simmons can create shots. He's raw and lacks experience but has a bright future. He'll learn from his mistakes.

    He's benefited from Green's spacing more than the other way around.
    No way, no how. More ridiculous comments from you per par.

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    I can't wait to see how badly Tom Rivers messes up a Griffin trade

    I'm expecting something like this: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jtqspvn
    Doc would do that.

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